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White Spider
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Postby White Spider » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:52 am

Taking all of the various value judgements into account it's neither the best in my subjective opinion or the best in many objective standards.

Sorry USA, you're not all that.

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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:11 am

Elemental North wrote:
The Kingdom of Grenoble wrote:No.

America ranks 13th in starting a business, according to the Doing Business rankings compiled by The World Bank.

The U.S. ranks 47th in press freedom, according to Reporters Without Borders. So much for freedom of the press.

The U.S. ranks 20th in international trade, according to the Doing Business rankings compiled by The World Bank.

The U.S., which ranks 15th in dealing with debt insolvency according to the Doing Business rankings.

The U.S. is ranked 10th in economic freedom, according to The Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street Journal.

The U.S. is 25th among 43 developing countries for the best place to be a mother, according to Save The Children.

The U.S. is only the 11th happiest country in the world, according Columbia University's Earth Institute.

There are 21 countries better than America in freedom from corruption, according to Heritage.org.

The U.S. was ranked 24th in perceived honesty, according to Transparency.org.

America is ranked 39th in income inequality according to the CIA World Factbook.

Need a Hepatitis B vaccination? The U.S. is ranked 89th in percentage of children who have been vaccinated according to the World Health Organization.

The U.S. is only 47th in infant survival? That's true, according to the CIA World Factbook.

Want to live a long life? Don't live in the U.S., which is 50th in life expectancy according to the CIA World Factbook.

How well is the economy growing? The U.S. GDP growth rate is ranked 169th out of 216 countries, according to the CIA World Factbook.

The GDP per capita is only 12th in the world, behind Qatar and Liechtenstein, says the CIA World Factbook.

The unemployment percentage is worse than 102 of the 200 countries listed by the CIA World Factbook.

The U.S. is an embarrassing 142nd out of 150 countries in infrastructure investment, according to the CIA World Factbook.

America's budget deficit is ranked 192nd in debt relative to GDP, according to the CIA World Factbook.

The growth rate of industrial production is ranked 79th, according to the CIA World Factbook.

The U.S. is only 11th in oil exports, according to the CIA World Factbook.

The U.S. is ranked 192nd, dead last, in the net trade of goods and services, according to the CIA World Factbook.

The reserve of foreign exchange and gold is ranked 19th, according to the CIA World Factbook, right behind Indonesia.

The U.S. is ranked the 28th best soccer team by FIFA.

In terms of the percentage of women holding public office, the U.S. ranks 79th out of 147 countries, says the IPU.

7th in literacy

27th in math

22nd in science

49th in life expectancy

178th in infant mortality

Number four in labor force and number four in exports.

Also, you lead the world in only three categories. Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defense spending

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Someone watched the video. And please refrain from quoting statistics from the Heritage Foundation. No one trusts them for anything anymore.


It was actually done with the Wall Street Journal.

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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:15 am

That clip was one of my favorite clips from a TV Show (behind Hah Gay from Community), and I do agree with what that fictional man has said. America is a shadow of its former self, we used to be a strong nation with freedom as its cornerstone, but now, we are in a period of economic downfall, a period in which the freedom that we once held so dearly is almost nothing. We can once again become strong, but only if we follow the ways of our founding fathers, if we go back to the founding principles of this nation, then we shall become strong again.

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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:17 am

Korouse wrote:The US will probably be number one again here in about 2 years.

Again??? :eyebrow:

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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:19 am

Hell no, its still a good country to live in of course, and it is still a massive power, but no where near is it the greatest country in the world.

Besides everyone knows that position belongs to Kazakhstan.
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Postby White Spider » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:21 am

Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:
Korouse wrote:The US will probably be number one again here in about 2 years.

Again??? :eyebrow:


I'm more shocked that he thinks it will be number one again in only 2 years. It'll take a hell of a lot longer than that to even get a united political view of how to achieve the spot.

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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:22 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:That clip was one of my favorite clips from a TV Show

But it was a pathetically shitty clip...? :blink:

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Postby Allentyr » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:28 am

No, that'd be CANADA! :P

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Postby Risottia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:42 am

Elemental North wrote:Is America the greatest country in the world,

No, /thread.
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Postby Luxew » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:47 am

No, America is not the best country in the whole world. There are pros and cons for every country, but there is issues that keep the US from becoming the world's best nation. To be fair, the world's best country might be the following: Norway, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Austria, etc.)
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:51 am

Nice video. That aside, no, it definitely isn't, with so much to improve.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:13 am

Benuty wrote:A giant quarantine zone cannot call itself the greatest country on earth. Especially when it refuses to admit millions of its citizens are infected with a horrrid & deadly contagion which can ruin lives.


Liberalism?

:D Sorry. couldn't resist.
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Postby Sxvoryia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:31 am

Gyrenaica wrote:
Sxvoryia wrote:America is better than many but Canada, Switzerland, and Japan are much better

Drop Japan. Add Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, New Zealand, and some other good countries.

Yeah, considering
New Zealand was the first nation in the world to allow women to vote :)

what about Sweden?

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Postby LaVeyan Satanism » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:33 am

No, only idiotic American nationalists think that.
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Postby Sxvoryia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:23 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Benuty wrote:A giant quarantine zone cannot call itself the greatest country on earth. Especially when it refuses to admit millions of its citizens are infected with a horrrid & deadly contagion which can ruin lives.


Liberalism?

:D Sorry. couldn't resist.


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its not contagious we get it from food

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Postby Sxvoryia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:24 am

White Spider wrote:
Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:Again??? :eyebrow:


I'm more shocked that he thinks it will be number one again in only 2 years. It'll take a hell of a lot longer than that to even get a united political view of how to achieve the spot.


In ten to fifteen years America will be a Chinese Territory

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Postby Benuty » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:27 am

Sxvoryia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Liberalism?

:D Sorry. couldn't resist.


ITS CANIDAE YOU IDIOT

CANIDAE CANIDAE CANIDAE

it won't kill you but it will make your life suck, and it never goes away (most of the time)

its not contagious we get it from food

Stupidity is contagious, and enough of that pro-biotic scam fear mongering.
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Postby Sxvoryia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:28 am

Benuty wrote:
Sxvoryia wrote:
ITS CANIDAE YOU IDIOT

CANIDAE CANIDAE CANIDAE

it won't kill you but it will make your life suck, and it never goes away (most of the time)

its not contagious we get it from food

Stupidity is contagious, and enough of that pro-biotic scam fear mongering.


pro-bisexual what?

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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:01 am

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Smoya wrote:and isn't fair for the companies to pay your workers for doing utterly nothing.


The company does not pay for maternity leave. The government pays for the maternity leave through contributions from the mother to her social security.

You mean the social security that people are forced to pay into that is raided regularly?
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Going to the beach everyday? Apparently 3-4 weeks of paid vacation each year, is "going to the beach everyday". Also ever thought that maybe, when somebody takes a week or so off for vacation that they come back rested and more productive and happy?

The numbers disagree.
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And you need to understand how the world works. Every single developed country except for the US provides the aforementioned and their economy isn't trashed, employees don't go the beach everyday. Maternity leave and paid vacation will not destroy your economy, and suggesting that it will shows that you clearly do not understand how it works and instead of trying to understand how it works you say "Socialism is evil!"

If they legalized duels, would the US need to legalize duels too?

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Postby Sxvoryia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:38 am

Remember, killing civilians is bad - unless they're German.

RACIST, not all Germans are Nazis, infact allot of the Jews the Nazis killed were also German

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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:55 am

Sxvoryia wrote:Remember, killing civilians is bad - unless they're German.

RACIST, not all Germans are Nazis, infact allot of the Jews the Nazis killed were also German

First of all, that has nothing to with the thread, second of all, that was meant to be a commentary on how the US' treatment of foreign countries, particularly, the bombing of Japan gets more criticism despite the fact Nazi Germany was bombed similarly and never attacked the US.

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:35 am

LaVeyan Satanism wrote:No, only idiotic American nationalists think that.


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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:38 am

"Greatest" is pretty subjective. It could mean just about anything. Military prowess? Yeah, certainly #1 in that; longest standard of living? No, not that one; endurance? Time will tell, but probably not. Really, the question is the problem, moreso than the answer.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:40 am

Sxvoryia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Liberalism?

:D Sorry. couldn't resist.


ITS CANIDAE YOU IDIOT

CANIDAE CANIDAE CANIDAE

it won't kill you but it will make your life suck, and it never goes away (most of the time)

its not contagious we get it from food

I don't think that you can become a dog from eating food.
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Postby Ifaltannia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:42 am

I'd like to stay with my free healthcare thank you.
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America as a country now goes around separating arguments in the middle-east. aaand that's it.
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