Diskusi Berbahasa Indonesia | Indonesian Thread

[Adab]

Which is good. Today is the day, folks!

Yep, and the sun is shining over the part of Jakarta in which I'm now staying (Lebak Bulus). My prediction: Jokowi will triumph in this election, but by a very slim margin.

[Saracenia]

Kayaknya Prabowo bakal menang...

Payah.

[Adab]

Kayaknya Prabowo bakal menang...

Payah.

Tenang, quick count aja baru mulai. Baru 2% sampel suara masuk ke Kompas, jadi jelas masih ada harapan buat Jokowi.

[Oceasia]

Nanti kalo udah pasti lebih dari 50% itu baru menang. Saya sih harap Prabowo menang.

[Kuzestan]

Quick count banyak yang ngasih mayoritas ke nomer 2 kok.

[Oceasia]

Hasil quick count nya beragam, nih.

[Adab]

Hasil quick count nya beragam, nih.

Iya, tapi kebanyakan menangin Jokowi-JK. Cuma tvOne (kepunyaan Aburizal Bakrie) hanya nampilin survei yang menangin Prabowo, dan itu pun dengan selisih tipis.

[Senyosu]

Would Indonesia be safe for travel during this time? I have relatives there that I'm supposed to meet in a few weeks so...

[Altito Asmoro]

Would Indonesia be safe for travel during this time? I have relatives there that I'm supposed to meet in a few weeks so...

Relatively, it will be somewhat safe. Of course, where is the location of your relatives also take into account.

[Senyosu]

Would Indonesia be safe for travel during this time? I have relatives there that I'm supposed to meet in a few weeks so...

Relatively, it will be somewhat safe. Of course, where is the location of your relatives also take into account.

Jakarta, more specifically Sentul and Pluit.

[Altito Asmoro]

Relatively, it will be somewhat safe. Of course, where is the location of your relatives also take into account.

Jakarta, more specifically Sentul and Pluit.

Safe.


I guess.

[Senyosu]

Jakarta, more specifically Sentul and Pluit.

Safe.


I guess.

Are you absolutely sure?

[Norstal]

Would Indonesia be safe for travel during this time? I have relatives there that I'm supposed to meet in a few weeks so...

Pasti safe kalau kamu punya duit buat polisi.

It's always safe when you have money to bribe the police with.

[Senyosu]

Would Indonesia be safe for travel during this time? I have relatives there that I'm supposed to meet in a few weeks so...

Pasti safe kalau kamu punya duit buat polisi.

It's always safe when you have money to bribe the police with.

Yah, tapi paranoid dikit loh :/

[Oceasia]

Relatively, it will be somewhat safe. Of course, where is the location of your relatives also take into account.

Jakarta, more specifically Sentul and Pluit.

Yeah, I'm sure it's safe. Also, we should change the topic of the poll, the election is yesterday.

[Kalosia]

Would Indonesia be safe for travel during this time? I have relatives there that I'm supposed to meet in a few weeks so...

If you're only gonna be in Jakarta, I suppose it is. I live here and I don't recall ever being threatened by danger.

Also, we should change the topic of the poll, the election is yesterday.

I've taken down the poll. What do you want to discuss now? I'm suggesting perhaps the future of Indonesia under Jokowi. Also we should be talking in Indonesian more.

Katanya klo Jokowi menang, daerah2 yang ada kelompok separatis bakal pisah dari Indonesia? Kalo Prabowo menang, jelas gak bakal, tapi mentang2 Jokowi menang bukan berarti dong?

[Altito Asmoro]

Would Indonesia be safe for travel during this time? I have relatives there that I'm supposed to meet in a few weeks so...

If you're only gonna be in Jakarta, I suppose it is. I live here and I don't recall ever being threatened by danger.

Also, we should change the topic of the poll, the election is yesterday.

I've taken down the poll. What do you want to discuss now? I'm suggesting perhaps the future of Indonesia under Jokowi. Also we should be talking in Indonesian more.

Katanya klo Jokowi menang, daerah2 yang ada kelompok separatis bakal pisah dari Indonesia? Kalo Prabowo menang, jelas gak bakal, tapi mentang2 Jokowi menang bukan berarti dong?

Kita harus khawatir dengan Aceh dan OPM.

We still should worry with Aceh and OPM. Granted, Aceh might be in peaceful now, but what about its people when Jokowi ascended to the presidency by October?

[Arkinesia]

Jokowi will definitely be a catalyst for Indonesian economic growth in the short term.

Memangnya, ujian sesunggunya akan apakah Jokowi bisa menahan pertumbuhan ini.

[Oceasia]

Would Indonesia be safe for travel during this time? I have relatives there that I'm supposed to meet in a few weeks so...

If you're only gonna be in Jakarta, I suppose it is. I live here and I don't recall ever being threatened by danger.

Also, we should change the topic of the poll, the election is yesterday.

I've taken down the poll. What do you want to discuss now? I'm suggesting perhaps the future of Indonesia under Jokowi. Also we should be talking in Indonesian more.

Katanya klo Jokowi menang, daerah2 yang ada kelompok separatis bakal pisah dari Indonesia? Kalo Prabowo menang, jelas gak bakal, tapi mentang2 Jokowi menang bukan berarti dong?

Kayaknya paling bagus bicara tentang apa isu terbesar yang dihadapi oleh Indonesia, kan kita belum tahu siapa yang menang.
I think the best is to talk about what is the greatest issue Indonesia is facing, because we don't know who won yet.

[Kuzestan]

If you're only gonna be in Jakarta, I suppose it is. I live here and I don't recall ever being threatened by danger.


I've taken down the poll. What do you want to discuss now? I'm suggesting perhaps the future of Indonesia under Jokowi. Also we should be talking in Indonesian more.

Katanya klo Jokowi menang, daerah2 yang ada kelompok separatis bakal pisah dari Indonesia? Kalo Prabowo menang, jelas gak bakal, tapi mentang2 Jokowi menang bukan berarti dong?

Kita harus khawatir dengan Aceh dan OPM.

We still should worry with Aceh and OPM. Granted, Aceh might be in peaceful now, but what about its people when Jokowi ascended to the presidency by October?

There might be a possible disturbance in the region, seeing just how much they love to enforce the sharia law and that Jokowi is a slightly liberal politician from a slightly liberal party.

[Kalosia]

If you're only gonna be in Jakarta, I suppose it is. I live here and I don't recall ever being threatened by danger.


I've taken down the poll. What do you want to discuss now? I'm suggesting perhaps the future of Indonesia under Jokowi. Also we should be talking in Indonesian more.

Katanya klo Jokowi menang, daerah2 yang ada kelompok separatis bakal pisah dari Indonesia? Kalo Prabowo menang, jelas gak bakal, tapi mentang2 Jokowi menang bukan berarti dong?

Kita harus khawatir dengan Aceh dan OPM.

Nah, gue denger selama ini terjadi pelanggaran HAM oleh di Papua, tentunya jika mereka ingin merdeka ya itu mengganggu persatuan Indonesia, tapi kalo ingin meredam situasi, gak dengan pelanggaran HAM juga, ya kan?
Mungkin kita lebih baik membuat peran warga2 Papua lebih signifikan di Indonesia? (Gue di Jakarta punya banyak kenalan orang Sumatra, Jawa, ada yang Bali, Manada, Ambon, bahkan dari Kalimantan, tapi gak ada yang orang Papua.) Karena mereka gak terlalu signifikan dalam pemerintahan Indonesia mungkin mereka merasa terkucilkan. [sumber]

[Kuzestan]

Kita harus khawatir dengan Aceh dan OPM.

Nah, gue denger selama ini terjadi pelanggaran HAM oleh di Papua, tentunya jika mereka ingin merdeka ya itu mengganggu persatuan Indonesia, tapi kalo ingin meredam situasi, gak dengan pelanggaran HAM juga, ya kan?
Mungkin kita lebih baik membuat peran warga2 Papua lebih signifikan di Indonesia? (Gue di Jakarta punya banyak kenalan orang Sumatra, Jawa, ada yang Bali, Manada, Ambon, bahkan dari Kalimantan, tapi gak ada yang orang Papua.) Karena mereka gak terlalu signifikan dalam pemerintahan Indonesia mungkin mereka merasa terkucilkan. [sumber]

Jelas dgn kasus seperti ini, mereka terasa dimarginalkan oleh pemerintah pusat. Dalam hal representasi di pemerintahan, representasi yg tdk terlalu besar sepertinya tdk terhindari, populasi papua tdk seberapa dibanding beberapa daerah Indonesia yg lain.

[Kalosia]

Jelas dgn kasus seperti ini, mereka terasa dimarginalkan oleh pemerintah pusat. Dalam hal representasi di pemerintahan, representasi yg tdk terlalu besar sepertinya tdk terhindari, populasi papua tdk seberapa dibanding beberapa daerah Indonesia yg lain.

...setidaknya kita mesti membuat mereka nyaman di rumah sendiri.

[Adab]

Jelas dgn kasus seperti ini, mereka terasa dimarginalkan oleh pemerintah pusat. Dalam hal representasi di pemerintahan, representasi yg tdk terlalu besar sepertinya tdk terhindari, populasi papua tdk seberapa dibanding beberapa daerah Indonesia yg lain.

...setidaknya kita mesti membuat mereka nyaman di rumah sendiri.

Betul itu. Bila Papua dan penduduknya benar-benar diperhatikan oleh pemerintah dan diperlakukan dengan baik, bisa diharapkan bahwa gerakan separatis di Papua akan meredup dengan sendirinya, tanpa harus selalu ditembaki oleh tentara.

[Kuzestan]

...setidaknya kita mesti membuat mereka nyaman di rumah sendiri.

Betul itu. Bila Papua dan penduduknya benar-benar diperhatikan oleh pemerintah dan diperlakukan dengan baik, bisa diharapkan bahwa gerakan separatis di Papua akan meredup dengan sendirinya, tanpa harus selalu ditembaki oleh tentara.

Contohnya dgn pendanaan yang lebih untuk provinsi2 di Papua. Misalnya di pendidikan, kesehatan, transportasi, dan keamanan. 4 bidang ini sepertinya memiliki kualitas yang lebih rendah di Papua di banding provinsi yang lain.