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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:57 am

Gigaverse wrote:The situation in East Asia is now suddenly dreadfully resembling that of Europe a century ago... ;-;

It's like Imperial Japan back in the early 1900s thru about 1941. Now we just replace the land stealer as China.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:58 am

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Allet Klar Chefs wrote:Japan doesn't have local allies. It has people the US has co-opted into being on the same side side, but not allies.

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I see no issue with Japan allowing for a more broad interpretation of their Article 9.


Beside the shitstorm that its going to kick up.

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Postby Tierra Prime » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:59 am

All countries have a right to defend themselves. If Japan feels it needs to expand the JSDF to do that, then so be it.

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:00 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:The situation in East Asia is now suddenly dreadfully resembling that of Europe a century ago... ;-;

It's like Imperial Japan back in the early 1900s thru about 1941. Now we just replace the land stealer as China.


And Diaoyu Island is like Manchuria, only without anybody living there, and amongst worthless in itself but for a few, meagre resources. Oh, and the Chinese landed troops and unlawfully occupied it whilst installing a puppet government and torturing the nonexistant inhabitants.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:00 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:The situation in East Asia is now suddenly dreadfully resembling that of Europe a century ago... ;-;


Of course, China is German, the Kim family are the Hapsburg, South Korea is some sort of France/Serbia mix, Japan is Britain, and America can be Russia, whilst Russia the Ottoman.

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:01 am

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Ifreann wrote:War bad. Peace good. Being more open to going to war is bad.

What about defending their own region or aiding their allies?


Which wouldn't have occured without some agression on the opposer, war simply perpetuate war.

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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:01 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:The situation in East Asia is now suddenly dreadfully resembling that of Europe a century ago... ;-;

It's like Imperial Japan back in the early 1900s thru about 1941. Now we just replace the land stealer as China.

People's Empire Republic of China?

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:03 am

Gigaverse wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:It's like Imperial Japan back in the early 1900s thru about 1941. Now we just replace the land stealer as China.

People's Empire Republic of China?

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China's authoritarian, yes, it's true, but it is hardly an empire.

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Postby Sklavinia » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:06 am

Ifreann wrote:War bad. Peace good. Being more open to going to war is bad.


Not when your neighbors are China and North Korea. Japan just wants to be able to defend itself in case either of those two nuthouses go off the edge, and let's face it, their current 'defense force' isn't much of a defensive force. If I were neighbors with the PRC or the DPRK, I'd be doing the same thing.
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Postby Jetan » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:07 am

This is a good thing for Japan. Their position is strengtened and they have more options in the case of crisis, without any real militarization.
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Postby Tierra Prime » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:07 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So, It begins.

Mother Russia laughs at silly western claim that Japan could invade it's shores!

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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:08 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So, It begins.

And so it would seem to be the Downfall of the Soviet Union...
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Postby Sklavinia » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:09 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:People's Empire Republic of China?

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China's authoritarian, yes, it's true, but it is hardly an empire.


It owns two countries and a part of another, sounds like an empire to me.
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Postby Sklavinia » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:10 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So, It begins.


Lolno.

Still can't believe people actually play those games.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:10 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:So, It begins.

And so it would seem to be the Downfall of the Soviet Union...

They thought they could hide from Japan... no one hides from Japan.. Not even countries that no longer exist.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:10 am

Sklavinia wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:

China's authoritarian, yes, it's true, but it is hardly an empire.


It owns two countries and a part of another, sounds like an empire to me.


Which two country does it own?

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:11 am

Sklavinia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So, It begins.


Lolno.

Still can't believe people actually play those games.

I dont play them.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:11 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Sklavinia wrote:
It owns two countries and a part of another, sounds like an empire to me.


Which two country does it own?


Tibet for one, not sure about the other though.
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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:12 am

Sklavinia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So, It begins.


Lolno.

Still can't believe people actually play those games.

Which sucks, the units or the plot? :p
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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:12 am

Ifreann wrote:
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Sometimes war is good though.

That's what we have America for.

America is not your private army. Unless you want to become the next Iraq success story, you'd best learn that fact.

Now, about Japan getting some teeth back. I think it's about time. With China upping the saber rattling, North Korea being North Korea, and Russia deciding it wants to go play America, Japan has all the right in the world to be concerned. I'll be worried it was a mistake when I start hearing "Tora Tora Tora" over some military channel.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:12 am

Gigaverse wrote:
Sklavinia wrote:
Lolno.

Still can't believe people actually play those games.

Which sucks, the units or the plot? :p

It red alert 3... both really.

Anyway, my serious answer, if Japan feels threatened it has the right to build up its military i guess. All countries do.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:13 am

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Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Which two country does it own?


Tibet for one, not sure about the other though.


Which I would hardly say is a country. And if you are speaking of Inner Mongolia, or Xinjiang, I would not claim that those are countries either. They may have seperatist movements, but so does Britanny, Corsica, and the Basque land.

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:15 am

The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That's what we have America for.

America is not your private army. Unless you want to become the next Iraq success story, you'd best learn that fact.

Now, about Japan getting some teeth back. I think it's about time. With China upping the saber rattling, North Korea being North Korea, and Russia deciding it wants to go play America, Japan has all the right in the world to be concerned. I'll be worried it was a mistake when I start hearing "Tora Tora Tora" over some military channel.


Only, China isn't going to do anything about it, North Korea won't do anything about it, and nothing is ever going to come of it. North Korea's missiles can barely get pass the border to South Korea.

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