Christian Discussion Thread IV

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Good for you, I've also stopped viewing Catholics as "not really correct" and decided there seems to be nothing wrong with them whatsoever.

Likewise. I mean, I no doubt have theological disagreements with you but I think it's important to be mindful of the plank in my own eye and all that.

Better to be like this than cast the first stone. Besides, it was Kierkegaard who deepened my faith to this extent and he was hardly orthodox.

Incidentally, I just noticed the Rewrite OP in your signature. As a Roman Catholic with a VNDB profile, I see no heresy here~.

By the way, what's that Japanese band on your sig? I also listen to J-POP, you know.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Alright, so the Nicene Creed for Catholics. Now how about all those other denominations that say, don't accept the Trinity? Are they not Christian?

It's not "for Catholics". Protestants use it as a statement of their faith also. The one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church referred to is the one that existed at the time the Creed was written and hopefully will someday exist in unity again.

Yeah, I've never met any Protestants that follow the Trinity. None of them I know buy into it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It's not "for Catholics". Protestants use it as a statement of their faith also. The one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church referred to is the one that existed at the time the Creed was written and hopefully will someday exist in unity again.

Yeah, I've never met any Protestants that follow the Trinity. None of them buy into it.

I should introduce you to my uncle, the minister.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

It's not "for Catholics". Protestants use it as a statement of their faith also. The one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church referred to is the one that existed at the time the Creed was written and hopefully will someday exist in unity again.

Yeah, I've never met any Protestants that follow the Trinity. None of them I know buy into it.

Well, you've met too few Protestants, to be sure. Majority of the Protestants I know believe in the Trinity.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yeah, I've never met any Protestants that follow the Trinity. None of them I know buy into it.

Well, you've met too few Protestants, to be sure. Majority of the Protestants I know believe in the Trinity.

Given I was raised an Evangelical Protestant I doubt that very much

[Irredento]

It's not "for Catholics". Protestants use it as a statement of their faith also. The one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church referred to is the one that existed at the time the Creed was written and hopefully will someday exist in unity again.

Yeah, I've never met any Protestants that follow the Trinity. None of them I know buy into it.

As a Catholic in a Presbyterian country, I can tell you that the Trinity is something on which we all agree.

I don't know what sort of protestants you've met but they certainly couldn't have been from any mainstream denomination.

By the way, what's that Japanese band on your sig? I also listen to J-POP, you know.

That's Nogizaka46. Are you familiar with AKB48? This group is their official rival basically. I was an AKB fan since around 2008 onward but my favourite member was transferred to their sister group who I still follow just for her but ultimately I'm pretty much full on Nogiwota now.

Also this isn't what Augustine was talking about. 笑

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Whatever gave you that idea?

Perhaps because you question things... which is a good sign. One can't be following things blindly.

I'd hope my beliefs are in congruence with what I know. Although I will admit I understand other people's point of view on my beliefs and I can piss off both Christians and Atheists alike with my beliefs

To be fair, when I hit 18 I just thought that growing up in the faith like my mom did wasn't enough and that I wanted to have my own convictions, not convictions that were taught to me and yet I didn't understand.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Perhaps because you question things... which is a good sign. One can't be following things blindly.

I'd hope my beliefs are in congruence with what I know. Although I will admit I understand other people's point of view on my beliefs and I can piss off both Christians and Atheists alike with my beliefs

To be fair, when I hit 18 I just thought that growing up in the faith like my parents wasn't enough and that I wanted to have my own convictions, not convictions that were taught to me and yet I didn't understand.

Again, you ask questions. And you know what, good on you. I don't know if there is a god, and frankly, I don't ponder that much anymore, but if we were created, we have brains to be inquisitive. We question. We analyze. We form ideas. We acquire but can change our convictions subject to the data we receive. If there is a god, I'm sure he wants us to be that curious, not just take for a fact what someone tells us.

Brains are meant to be used. We can very well make up our own minds if we damn well please.

[Aelex]

Every teaching of the Catholic Church is a religious teaching, that you must follow. Part of Catholicism is obedience to the Church and her teachings.
No, I do not see the benefit of Laicite, for we do not need such a thing to foster inclusive communities. There is nothing at all to impede friendships between people of different faiths, multiculturalism is like Canada's whole identity. The most devoutly Catholic person I know is very close friends with a Muslim. I don't know any Muslims very well in real life, but I do have internet friends who are Muslims. I also personally know Christians of many different denominations. We don't need to ban religion from public life in order to achieve this.

To it's RELIGIOUS teaching. Not to it's political one. There's difference between obedience and mindlessly following the church. A big difference...
And, are you really saying that Canada, wich litteraly SURRENDER to all the religions, has a better system than France?

'Cause, from what I have heard of many of my Québécois friends, your system is not only shitty in religious matter, but also awefully racists toward them in everyday life.
But, you're right, we don't need to ban religion JUST to achieve this, we need to ban religion for a lot more of reasons.
Like giving to the kids real liberty of choice, completly separating the church from the state, completly separating the church from the politic, letting people live their live completly how they want to especially people of other religious denomination or giving to people access to some rights (like abortion) to only talk about the more obvious avantages of laïcité...

[The Wolven League]

I was once an Eastern Orthodox- but boy, was that a long time ago... now I'm a Wiccan Hope you don't mind me here?

Welcome! It's always nice to have more varied perspectives here. So, what attracted you to become a Wiccan? And before that, were you nominally Orthodox, or practicing?

First Question: When I found out about Wicca, something just..clicked, more than it did with Christianity.

Second: I guess practicing.

[Murkwood]

Welcome! It's always nice to have more varied perspectives here. So, what attracted you to become a Wiccan? And before that, were you nominally Orthodox, or practicing?

First Question: When I found out about Wicca, something just..clicked, more than it did with Christianity.

Second: I guess practicing.

Yeah, lies are usually crafted to "click".

[The Holy Therns]

First Question: When I found out about Wicca, something just..clicked, more than it did with Christianity.

Second: I guess practicing.

Yeah, lies are usually crafted to "click".

This must be that Christian humility I hear so much about.

[The Wolven League]

First Question: When I found out about Wicca, something just..clicked, more than it did with Christianity.

Second: I guess practicing.

Yeah, lies are usually crafted to "click".

*sighs* Hello Murk.

[The Wolven League]

Also, I see that Creepoc is an ex-nation...so I'm assuming he got banned? May I ask what he did?

[Murkwood]

Yeah, lies are usually crafted to "click".

This must be that Christian humility I hear so much about.

Well, it's true. I'm calling a spade a spade.

[Cannabis Islands]

I would like to ask Roman Catholics whom are of what I call conservative* or traditional(non-sspx, non-sede) orientation of the recent invite of the notorious New Ways Ministry by Pope Francis. If your not aware or haven't heard of New Ways Ministry, it is a group of Catholics that wishes for the Catholic Church to become more progressive and to change it's dogmas on homosexuality.

Since I left the Catholic Church when I held a very traditionalist viewpoint, I am not surprised. Pope Francis seems to be a throwback to the 60s and 70s, when the church was going through a renewal. And the fact that the Church has commended this group in the past proves my point even more.

So, as a person who recently left the Catholic Church and faith while holding a SSPX like Traditionalist viewpoint, I must say that the Pope's actions don't want me to come back to the Church, but hell, I'm just one person.


Sources :
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/18/world/lgbt-group-vatican/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ways_Ministry
http://www.ewtn.com/library/curia/cdfnuway.htm

*When I mean Conservative, I am talking about Catholics that believe in "all" the dogmas of the Catholic Church, particularly those regarding homosexuality and attend Mass of Paul VI or the "New Mass"

[The Princes of the Universe]

As NSG's most prominent atheist academic, I would like to apologize on behalf of all atheists for the previous poster's behaviour. I can assure you that we are not all rabid teenage extremists.

A jerk being a jerk ought not pigeonhole an entire demographic.

[The Archregimancy]

Also, I see that Creepoc is an ex-nation...so I'm assuming he got banned? May I ask what he did?

He was deleted, not banned.

He's still able to post in the forums with his other nations.

[Czechanada]

Also, I see that Creepoc is an ex-nation...so I'm assuming he got banned? May I ask what he did?

He was deleted, not banned.

He's still able to post in the forums with his other nations.

No, he was banned for a week afterwards.

[The Archregimancy]

He was deleted, not banned.

He's still able to post in the forums with his other nations.

No, he was banned for a week afterwards.

Correct - my mistake.

He was deleted and then also banned for a week.

[Raurosia]

Was wondering if anyone here is familiar with Lent Madness. It's a tournament of Episcopal saints where the winners are determined by voting. I like it because you get to learn more about these fascinating people and because it's all conducted in a half-serious, half-joking way.

If anyone's interested, I have Bede winning my bracket.

[Czechanada]

American Protestant volunteers who are fighting ISIL in Iraq have allegedly deserted the Kurds because of their left-wing views: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/chris ... 1976493133

What do you guys think?

[Constaniana]

American Protestant volunteers who are fighting ISIL in Iraq have allegedly deserted the Kurds because of their left-wing views: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/chris ... 1976493133

What do you guys think?

I was initially miffed at the idea, as I assumed that they were just going home and giving up helping that region, but the bit where it says they're joining up with the new Christian militia makes it alright in my book.

[Securitan]

American Protestant volunteers who are fighting ISIL in Iraq have allegedly deserted the Kurds because of their left-wing views: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/chris ... 1976493133

What do you guys think?

I was initially miffed at the idea, as I assumed that they were just going home and giving up helping that region, but the bit where it says they're joining up with the new Christian militia makes it alright in my book.

Well based on their reaction they might start actually attacking the Kurds with their new militia.

[The Holy Therns]

It's not called Creepoc Discussion Thread IV...

I was initially miffed at the idea, as I assumed that they were just going home and giving up helping that region, but the bit where it says they're joining up with the new Christian militia makes it alright in my book.

Well based on their reaction they might start actually attacking the Kurds with their new militia.

I kinda doubt they'll actually attack them. Refuse to work with, perhaps, but I doubt they'll attack.