Christian Discussion Thread IV

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Cow is acceptable. So long as it isn't road kill or died a natural death.

There is a religion that doesn't eat cows. I think it's Hinduism, is that right?

Yes. Hinduism doesn't eat cow. The cow is sacred to them.

[Irredento]

Adherence to fundamental beliefs.

Such as what exactly? Because different denominations can have pretty wildly different ideas of what their fundamental beliefs are.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muo5W5GlGys

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

You know, tbh, I've been under the impression all along that Muslims do not eat cow. But you do, then?

You are confused between Hindu and Muslim. Yes, we eat cow. In Hackensack, there is a great Halal restaurant that serves excellent burgers. I tried to take my husband there once but forgot that it was jummah. Then I got mad at my husband for not being at the masjid.

Can the burgers have cheese on them? I know Jews can't mix dairy and meat, but I'm not sure if the dietary laws of Islam are the same.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Notice what I said, and notice what you just did. See your post? That's called a strawman.

Care to quote so I can read?

I did, I was referring to your post I quoted.

I never said that Islam can engage in indoctrination, simply that what "religious curriculum" means usually for people is not information, but indoctrination.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Such as what exactly? Because different denominations can have pretty wildly different ideas of what their fundamental beliefs are.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muo5W5GlGys

Alright, so the Nicene Creed for Catholics. Now how about all those other denominations that say, don't accept the Trinity? Are they not Christian?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

You know, tbh, I've been under the impression all along that Muslims do not eat cow. But you do, then?

You are confused between Hindu and Muslim. Yes, we eat cow. In Hackensack, there is a great Halal restaurant that serves excellent burgers. I tried to take my husband there once but forgot that it was jummah. Then I got mad at my husband for not being at the masjid.

Not really. Maybe it was because I had this Muslim neighbors several years ago and they never consumed beef.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Such as what exactly? Because different denominations can have pretty wildly different ideas of what their fundamental beliefs are.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muo5W5GlGys

I consider the Nicene Creed as the best Statement of Faith for Christianity, very simple and short, yet complete and accurate.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

You are confused between Hindu and Muslim. Yes, we eat cow. In Hackensack, there is a great Halal restaurant that serves excellent burgers. I tried to take my husband there once but forgot that it was jummah. Then I got mad at my husband for not being at the masjid.

Can the burgers have cheese on them? I know Jews can't mix dairy and meat, but I'm not sure if the dietary laws of Islam are the same.

Jesus pbuh loves Cheeseburgers, bruh. Gettin' cheese everywhere.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muo5W5GlGys

Alright, so the Nicene Creed for Catholics. Now how about all those other denominations that say, don't accept the Trinity? Are they not Christian?

There is such a thing as non-trinitarian Christians. I believe Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the few branches who are non-trinitarian, but I am not sure so don't quote me on that.

They are, however, heretics. They are in formal error against the Nicene Creed if they are non-trinitarian. That doesn't make them non-Christian.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Alright, so the Nicene Creed for Catholics. Now how about all those other denominations that say, don't accept the Trinity? Are they not Christian?

There is such a thing as non-trinitarian Christians. I believe Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the few branches who are non-trinitarian, but I am not sure so don't quote me on that.

They are, however, heretics. They are in formal error against the Nicene Creed if they are non-trinitarian. That doesn't make them non-Christian.

Yup. JWs do not believe in the Trinitarian doctrine.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Alright, so the Nicene Creed for Catholics. Now how about all those other denominations that say, don't accept the Trinity? Are they not Christian?

There is such a thing as non-trinitarian Christians. I believe Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the few branches who are non-trinitarian, but I am not sure so don't quote me on that.

They are, however, heretics. They are in formal error against the Nicene Creed if they are non-trinitarian. That doesn't make them non-Christian.

One thing- I do not believe the Jehovah's Witnesses to be Christian.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

There is such a thing as non-trinitarian Christians. I believe Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the few branches who are non-trinitarian, but I am not sure so don't quote me on that.

They are, however, heretics. They are in formal error against the Nicene Creed if they are non-trinitarian. That doesn't make them non-Christian.

One thing- I do not believe the Jehovah's Witnesses to be Christian.

That's alright. They do not think you, a believer in the trinity, among other things, are a Christian either.

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

Alright, so the Nicene Creed for Catholics. Now how about all those other denominations that say, don't accept the Trinity? Are they not Christian?

There is such a thing as non-trinitarian Christians. I believe Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the few branches who are non-trinitarian, but I am not sure so don't quote me on that.
They are, however, heretics. They are in formal error against the Nicene Creed if they are non-trinitarian. That doesn't make them non-Christian.

Aren't you a Protestant though? I mean, earlier on it kinda sounded like you were calling yourself a heretic as well... wouldn't that mean you believe you are wrong?

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

One thing- I do not believe the Jehovah's Witnesses to be Christian.

That's alright. They do not think you, a believer in the trinity, among other things, are a Christian either.

Consider them a fringe group among Christianity, they do not believe in Hell, they believe that only 144,000 will get to Heaven, they made a lot of prophecies and hilariously failed at all of them.

[Irredento]

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muo5W5GlGys

Alright, so the Nicene Creed for Catholics. Now how about all those other denominations that say, don't accept the Trinity? Are they not Christian?

It's not "for Catholics". Protestants use it as a statement of their faith also. The one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church referred to is the one that existed at the time the Creed was written and hopefully will someday exist in unity again.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

There is such a thing as non-trinitarian Christians. I believe Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the few branches who are non-trinitarian, but I am not sure so don't quote me on that.
They are, however, heretics. They are in formal error against the Nicene Creed if they are non-trinitarian. That doesn't make them non-Christian.

Aren't you a Protestant though? I mean, earlier on it kinda sounded like you were calling yourself a heretic as well... wouldn't that mean you believe you are wrong?

Could you please clarify? Is the Protestant you are referring to me?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That's alright. They do not think you, a believer in the trinity, among other things, are a Christian either.

Consider them a fringe group among Christianity, they do not believe in Hell, they believe that only 144,000 will get to Heaven, they made a lot of prophecies and hilariously failed at all of them.

You know, I don't exactly care about their beliefs, however, when one checks and rechecks the Bible, and then peruses ancient civilizations' histories, one can't help but notice several similarities among them.

Incidentally, you never answered me. Do you know what ''indoctrination'' means?

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

Aren't you a Protestant though? I mean, earlier on it kinda sounded like you were calling yourself a heretic as well... wouldn't that mean you believe you are wrong?

Could you please clarify? Is the Protestant you are referring to me?

No, I meant the guy I was quoting...

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Alright, so the Nicene Creed for Catholics. Now how about all those other denominations that say, don't accept the Trinity? Are they not Christian?

It's not "for Catholics". Protestants use it as a statement of their faith also. The one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church referred to is the one that existed at the time the Creed was written and hopefully will someday exist in unity again.

er well not all protestants. I was raised Southern Baptist and we definitely didn't go by that.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

There is such a thing as non-trinitarian Christians. I believe Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the few branches who are non-trinitarian, but I am not sure so don't quote me on that.
They are, however, heretics. They are in formal error against the Nicene Creed if they are non-trinitarian. That doesn't make them non-Christian.

Aren't you a Protestant though? I mean, earlier on it kinda sounded like you were calling yourself a heretic as well... wouldn't that mean you believe you are wrong?

I'm neither, to a degree.

To be fair, I don't know yet where I stand on matters of doctrine to make a stance and say "okay, I am THIS denomination but not these OTHER denominations" because I'm still learning about all major Christian denominations. I know I believe in God, I just don't know where I currently stand to make a stance on that because this thread has actually expanded my view of Christianity to other denominations I didn't even hear about, and I feel I should learn about them before making such a statement.

All I can tell you is that I'm not a non-Christian and that I might, in fact, be wrong about certain things, but these things are things I will end up learning eventually.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Could you please clarify? Is the Protestant you are referring to me?

No, I meant the guy I was quoting...

Soldati senza confini? I don't whatever know that guy (or girl) believes.

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

Man, I wonder what the others are gonna think when they check this thread again XD

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Man, I wonder what the others are gonna think when they check this thread again XD

"what is the muslim doing here? why did these things happen? who allowed this?"

[Irredento]

Historically we've used these terms against one another. Trust me.

I'm a Scotsman who comes from a family that lost much of its fortune and prestige circa 1745 over this sort of thing. I definitely know my stuff on this point.

For what it's worth though, we use the term "separated brethren" in the Catholic Church these days. I don't indulge in attacking my brothers in the faith and much prefer to pray for the reunification of our one holy Catholic and apostolic Church as it was founded by Jesus Christ.

Good for you, I've also stopped viewing Catholics as "not really correct" and decided there seems to be nothing wrong with them whatsoever.

Likewise. I mean, I no doubt have theological disagreements with you but I think it's important to be mindful of the plank in my own eye and all that.

Better to be like this than cast the first stone. Besides, it was Kierkegaard who deepened my faith to this extent and he was hardly orthodox.

Incidentally, I just noticed the Rewrite OP in your signature. As a Roman Catholic with a VNDB profile, I see no heresy here~.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Good for you, I've also stopped viewing Catholics as "not really correct" and decided there seems to be nothing wrong with them whatsoever.

Likewise. I mean, I no doubt have theological disagreements with you but I think it's important to be mindful of the plank in my own eye and all that.

Better to be like this than cast the first stone. Besides, it was Kierkegaard who deepened my faith to this extent and he was hardly orthodox.

Incidentally, I just noticed the Rewrite OP in your signature. As a Roman Catholic with a VNDB profile, I see no heresy here~.

Definitely, as I just met a Roman Catholic who knows my favorite visual novel, there's also no heresy. ^^