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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
315
34%
Eastern Orthodox
65
7%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East , etc.)
10
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
57
6%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
86
9%
Methodist
30
3%
Baptist
104
11%
Pentecostal
31
3%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
36
4%
Other Christian
200
21%
 
Total votes : 934

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:37 pm

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Jesus claimed a copyright? :P

"THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH That phrase trademark of Jesus Christ and and can't be reused with the expressed permission of Messiah, Inc.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:42 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Jesus claimed a copyright? :P

"THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH That phrase trademark of Jesus Christ and and can't be reused with the expressed permission of Messiah, Inc.

About that...
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Postby Coulee Croche » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:03 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:"THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH That phrase trademark of Jesus Christ and and can't be reused with the expressed permission of Messiah, Inc.

About that...

I think i laughed harder than i should have...
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Postby Efraim-Judah » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:23 pm

Today, according to the New Covenant, is when Yeshua, Messiah of Israel, entered in through the East Gate, The gate of Miracles, riding a donkey and solidified his position as Israel's and the world's Passover Lamb. Hossana is the Highest!

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:26 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:Today, according to the New Covenant, is when Yeshua, Messiah of Israel, entered in through the East Gate, The gate of Miracles, riding a donkey and solidified his position as Israel's and the world's Passover Lamb. Hossana is the Highest!




Wasn't that Sunday?

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Postby Efraim-Judah » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:34 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:Today, according to the New Covenant, is when Yeshua, Messiah of Israel, entered in through the East Gate, The gate of Miracles, riding a donkey and solidified his position as Israel's and the world's Passover Lamb. Hossana is the Highest!




Wasn't that Sunday?

It was a Sunday when it happened, but it happened 3 days before Passover, and Passover is on Saturday this year. So it would be impossible for it to occur on a Sunday this year.
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments" John 14:15

Blessed be He,who in His holiness gave The Torah to His people, Israel.

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:41 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Wasn't that Sunday?

It was a Sunday when it happened, but it happened 3 days before Passover, and Passover is on Saturday this year. So it would be impossible for it to occur on a Sunday this year.


Thanks to the Synoptic Problem, that 3 days isn't set in stone, hence the fixture in the Sunday before pascha
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Postby Wintanceastre » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:44 pm

So, I got to thinking today… How do you all pray? I know people pray in many different ways, from praying the rosary to "having a conversation with God." So, I was wondering, what is your daily prayer ritual?

For me, I do an arrow prayer nightly, before bed. It's taught by the Church of England, and is really a great way. It's taught using your hand as a reference, each finger representing a different prayer. The thumb, as the strongest digit, is used to represent the strong things in your life such as your home, family, and relationships. The index finger, the pointer finger, represents those who guide you in life such as friends, teachers, doctors, etc. The middle finger, being the tallest, represents the important people who have power in the world, like government leaders. The ring finger, being the weakest, represents the poor, weak, helpless, homeless, hungry, and the sick. And finally the little finger, being the smallest, represents yourself. I also try to pray from the book of common prayer daily.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:47 pm

Wintanceastre wrote:So, I got to thinking today… How do you all pray? I know people pray in many different ways, from praying the rosary to "having a conversation with God." So, I was wondering, what is your daily prayer ritual?

For me, I do an arrow prayer nightly, before bed. It's taught by the Church of England, and is really a great way. It's taught using your hand as a reference, each finger representing a different prayer. The thumb, as the strongest digit, is used to represent the strong things in your life such as your home, family, and relationships. The index finger, the pointer finger, represents those who guide you in life such as friends, teachers, doctors, etc. The middle finger, being the tallest, represents the important people who have power in the world, like government leaders. The ring finger, being the weakest, represents the poor, weak, helpless, homeless, hungry, and the sick. And finally the little finger, being the smallest, represents yourself. I also try to pray from the book of common prayer daily.


While such an adement catholic I'm also unconfirmed an uneducated in the Rosary. Usually I just have a conversation with God, but sometimes I'll say the Our Father and the Hail Mary.

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Postby Efraim-Judah » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:48 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:It was a Sunday when it happened, but it happened 3 days before Passover, and Passover is on Saturday this year. So it would be impossible for it to occur on a Sunday this year.


Thanks to the Synoptic Problem, that 3 days isn't set in stone, hence the fixture in the Sunday before pascha

It is fixed in stone, it happened 3 days before Passover. The Church has unfortunately decided to set it in stone on Sunday, when we all know that the Biblical Calendar is different than the Gregorian Calendar.
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Postby Wintanceastre » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:50 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Wintanceastre wrote:So, I got to thinking today… How do you all pray? I know people pray in many different ways, from praying the rosary to "having a conversation with God." So, I was wondering, what is your daily prayer ritual?

For me, I do an arrow prayer nightly, before bed. It's taught by the Church of England, and is really a great way. It's taught using your hand as a reference, each finger representing a different prayer. The thumb, as the strongest digit, is used to represent the strong things in your life such as your home, family, and relationships. The index finger, the pointer finger, represents those who guide you in life such as friends, teachers, doctors, etc. The middle finger, being the tallest, represents the important people who have power in the world, like government leaders. The ring finger, being the weakest, represents the poor, weak, helpless, homeless, hungry, and the sick. And finally the little finger, being the smallest, represents yourself. I also try to pray from the book of common prayer daily.


While such an adement catholic I'm also unconfirmed an uneducated in the Rosary. Usually I just have a conversation with God, but sometimes I'll say the Our Father and the Hail Mary.

Although I am not a Catholic in the Roman sense, I do consider myself a Catholic as an Anglican. And I have, actually, on occasion prayed the Rosary. But to me, it's a bit too… Repetitive and I find myself losing concentration during it.
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Postby Efraim-Judah » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:51 pm

Wintanceastre wrote:So, I got to thinking today… How do you all pray? I know people pray in many different ways, from praying the rosary to "having a conversation with God." So, I was wondering, what is your daily prayer ritual?

For me, I do an arrow prayer nightly, before bed. It's taught by the Church of England, and is really a great way. It's taught using your hand as a reference, each finger representing a different prayer. The thumb, as the strongest digit, is used to represent the strong things in your life such as your home, family, and relationships. The index finger, the pointer finger, represents those who guide you in life such as friends, teachers, doctors, etc. The middle finger, being the tallest, represents the important people who have power in the world, like government leaders. The ring finger, being the weakest, represents the poor, weak, helpless, homeless, hungry, and the sick. And finally the little finger, being the smallest, represents yourself. I also try to pray from the book of common prayer daily.

I say Shema Morning when I wake up and night before I go to bed, I say Shacharit in the morning, I say blessings over my food before and after I eat. and I also say Ma'ariv in the evening time. Just as any Believer should. I attempt to follower my Siddur as best as possible.
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments" John 14:15

Blessed be He,who in His holiness gave The Torah to His people, Israel.

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Postby Wintanceastre » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:55 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Wintanceastre wrote:So, I got to thinking today… How do you all pray? I know people pray in many different ways, from praying the rosary to "having a conversation with God." So, I was wondering, what is your daily prayer ritual?

For me, I do an arrow prayer nightly, before bed. It's taught by the Church of England, and is really a great way. It's taught using your hand as a reference, each finger representing a different prayer. The thumb, as the strongest digit, is used to represent the strong things in your life such as your home, family, and relationships. The index finger, the pointer finger, represents those who guide you in life such as friends, teachers, doctors, etc. The middle finger, being the tallest, represents the important people who have power in the world, like government leaders. The ring finger, being the weakest, represents the poor, weak, helpless, homeless, hungry, and the sick. And finally the little finger, being the smallest, represents yourself. I also try to pray from the book of common prayer daily.

I say Shema Morning when I wake up and night before I go to bed, I say Shacharit in the morning, I say blessings over my food before and after I eat. and I also say Ma'ariv in the evening time. Just as any Believer should. I attempt to follower my Siddur as best as possible.

Am I right in assuming you are a messianic jew?
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:01 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Thanks to the Synoptic Problem, that 3 days isn't set in stone, hence the fixture in the Sunday before pascha

It is fixed in stone, it happened 3 days before Passover. The Church has unfortunately decided to set it in stone on Sunday, when we all know that the Biblical Calendar is different than the Gregorian Calendar.


Modern Biblical scholarship disagree citing it on the sunday before passover, a time of 5 days. Sooooo....make your case.

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Postby Efraim-Judah » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:03 pm

Wintanceastre wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:I say Shema Morning when I wake up and night before I go to bed, I say Shacharit in the morning, I say blessings over my food before and after I eat. and I also say Ma'ariv in the evening time. Just as any Believer should. I attempt to follower my Siddur as best as possible.

Am I right in assuming you are a messianic jew?

Indeed!

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Postby Efraim-Judah » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:05 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:It is fixed in stone, it happened 3 days before Passover. The Church has unfortunately decided to set it in stone on Sunday, when we all know that the Biblical Calendar is different than the Gregorian Calendar.


Modern Biblical scholarship disagree citing it on the sunday before passover, a time of 5 days. Sooooo....make your case.

Can we do this tomorrow please? I can hardly look at the monitor screen without it blurring.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:08 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Wasn't that Sunday?

It was a Sunday when it happened, but it happened 3 days before Passover, and Passover is on Saturday this year. So it would be impossible for it to occur on a Sunday this year.

Tarsonis is right though John and the other three gospels disagree on when the Crucifixion was.

https://outreachjudaism.org/crucifixion ... ion-chart/
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:08 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Modern Biblical scholarship disagree citing it on the sunday before passover, a time of 5 days. Sooooo....make your case.

Can we do this tomorrow please? I can hardly look at the monitor screen without it blurring.


No one is forcing you to be on here... I hope........ Blink Twice if you're in danger.....

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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:09 pm

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Copyright in general is atrociously absurd.

And, of course, YouTube's approach to copyright is "guilty until proven innocent". Anyone can make a copyright claim against any video, and YouTube will mute it or remove it, unless the person who uploaded the video can prove that he did NOT violate some copyright.

Not to mention YouTube doesn't understand fair use at all. They're corporate shills through and through.

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Postby Wintanceastre » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:10 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Wintanceastre wrote:Am I right in assuming you are a messianic jew?

Indeed!

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Ah, very interesting. I've not met very many Messianic Jews before.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:12 pm

Wintanceastre wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:Indeed!

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Ah, very interesting. I've not met very many Messianic Jews before.

You've met plenty of Christians.
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Postby Efraim-Judah » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:12 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:Can we do this tomorrow please? I can hardly look at the monitor screen without it blurring.


No one is forcing you to be on here... I hope........ Blink Twice if you're in danger.....

*Blinks 2 times* O_O
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Wintanceastre wrote:Ah, very interesting. I've not met very many Messianic Jews before.

You've met plenty of Christians.

Yes, I have. But not many in said denomination. :)
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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:14 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Wintanceastre wrote:So, I got to thinking today… How do you all pray? I know people pray in many different ways, from praying the rosary to "having a conversation with God." So, I was wondering, what is your daily prayer ritual?
For me, I do an arrow prayer nightly, before bed. It's taught by the Church of England, and is really a great way. It's taught using your hand as a reference, each finger representing a different prayer. The thumb, as the strongest digit, is used to represent the strong things in your life such as your home, family, and relationships. The index finger, the pointer finger, represents those who guide you in life such as friends, teachers, doctors, etc. The middle finger, being the tallest, represents the important people who have power in the world, like government leaders. The ring finger, being the weakest, represents the poor, weak, helpless, homeless, hungry, and the sick. And finally the little finger, being the smallest, represents yourself. I also try to pray from the book of common prayer daily.


While such an adement catholic I'm also unconfirmed an uneducated in the Rosary. Usually I just have a conversation with God, but sometimes I'll say the Our Father and the Hail Mary.
Same thing goes for me. I was raised in a secular household so I don't really know much in the way of formal prayers. I just pray silently in my head, once a day ish. I am also unconfirmed, and the validity of my baptism is even somewhat questionable.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:14 pm

Wintanceastre wrote:
Menassa wrote:You've met plenty of Christians.

Yes, I have. But not many in said denomination. :)

Messianics are Christians.

Christ = Messiah

Christ-ian

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Christainic = Messianic

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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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