Israel / Gaza / Hamas Mega-Thread

[Washington Resistance Army]

If you think China and Russia would unite against the US you are sadly mistaken. As I've shown in a number of threads China has far more to gain by attacking Siberia, and China doesn't care about some heroic crusade against imperialism, China just cares about getting rich and becoming a superpower which they arguably already are. As for Iran, that's pretty funny, Iran couldn't stop NATO if they drafted every single person in the nation and armed them. As for Syria, that's been one of my big gripes with Obama, we should have been assisting Assad from the start of all this.

That is absolute Rubbish. Here's why. Putin (whom I consider with honour to be the New Stalin) & Xi Jinping (whom I consider to be the New Mao, non-Kissingerified) are renewing pre-Split ties between Russia in addition to China, especially this major recent gas deal. Furthermore, China's Xiaoping faction of Gorbies is being quietly ushered aside. Indeed, Xi Jinping belongs to the more original faction of the CPC.

just cares about getting rich

This is something that befits our NATO/EU mobsters more than it shalt ever befit China.

Lol okay. If you think China would actually join Russia in war because it signed a treaty for natural gas then you really have no understanding of how opportunism works. Russia and NATO go to war, Russia starts getting crushed after not all that long and provided it doesn't go nuclear China joins in and attacks Siberia. Suddenly all those immense resources are under Chinese control and give an immense boost to the Chinese economy as they are given to Chinese companies and ministries to exploit, maybe even pushing them ahead of the US in GDP size.

[Calimera II]

Assad butchers his own people and nobody does anything to stop him because Obama is weak.
This guy is responsible for hundreds of dead people, you support him and it says all about you and your morals.

LOL.

The people killing innocent Syrians are the takfiri butchers Obama & John McCain & our European régimes, alongside regional proxies are supporting to destabilise Syria in a very Gladio B like scenario. The Syrian government & people are defending themselves against this invasion.In addition, Obama is not weak, the sole reason he has not invaded Syria (thank god), is because Russia, China, Iran amongst other Résistance Axis nations hath stepped in to stop the NATO Empire in its tracks. As an anti-imperialist Frenchman I am proud to see that Syria has such committed allies readied to defend them down to the last man standing if needed. There shalt be no Libya 2,0. No Iraq 2,0. No Yugoslavia 2,0. No Lebanon 2,0. No Somali 2,0. No Afghanistan 2,0. No Ukraine 2,0. The Phoenix shalt rise again.

Wtf.

[Washington Resistance Army]

LOL.

The people killing innocent Syrians are the takfiri butchers Obama & John McCain & our European régimes, alongside regional proxies are supporting to destabilise Syria in a very Gladio B like scenario. The Syrian government & people are defending themselves against this invasion.In addition, Obama is not weak, the sole reason he has not invaded Syria (thank god), is because Russia, China, Iran amongst other Résistance Axis nations hath stepped in to stop the NATO Empire in its tracks. As an anti-imperialist Frenchman I am proud to see that Syria has such committed allies readied to defend them down to the last man standing if needed. There shalt be no Libya 2,0. No Iraq 2,0. No Yugoslavia 2,0. No Lebanon 2,0. No Somali 2,0. No Afghanistan 2,0. No Ukraine 2,0. The Phoenix shalt rise again.

Wtf.

Have you never seen him talk about these things before?

[Yehudda]

Assad butchers his own people and nobody does anything to stop him because Obama is weak.
This guy is responsible for hundreds of dead people, you support him and it says all about you and your morals.

As of now in Syria there are two factions that have a serious chance of winning. One of them is Bashar Al-Assad, who maintains a secular regime that grants civil rights to the populace and maintains order between the various Muslims and Christians in the nation. The other is the ISIL, which wants to establish a jihadist regime which would probably launch a massive genocide against all non-muslims, instill sharia law, and generally fuck things up in the region to a huge degree. Now, which one do you prefer? I would choose Assad any day over the ISIL.

That's just my view of things.

But guess why ISIS became so powerful? Because of a war written and directed by Bashar al Assad.
Both Assad's regime and ISIS are terrible.

[Calimera II]

Wtf.

Have you never seen him talk about these things before?

You are right, I could've know it only by looking at his name(:

[Doitsu-san]

As of now in Syria there are two factions that have a serious chance of winning. One of them is Bashar Al-Assad, who maintains a secular regime that grants civil rights to the populace and maintains order between the various Muslims and Christians in the nation. The other is the ISIL, which wants to establish a jihadist regime which would probably launch a massive genocide against all non-muslims, instill sharia law, and generally fuck things up in the region to a huge degree. Now, which one do you prefer? I would choose Assad any day over the ISIL.

That's just my view of things.

But guess why ISIS became so powerful? Because of a war written and directed by Bashar al Assad.
Both Assad's regime and ISIS are terrible.

Assad is better by far, we should be helping him to defeat the ISIL instead of giving him the cold shoulder. Syria is the only nation with an able military force willing to fight against the ISIL, and the only nation at this point that has a chance at defeating them. Giving Al-Assad air support and lifting economic restrictions would see the absolute death of the ISIL, with minimal cost.

[Yehudda]

But guess why ISIS became so powerful? Because of a war written and directed by Bashar al Assad.
Both Assad's regime and ISIS are terrible.

Assad is better by far, we should be helping him to defeat the ISIL instead of giving him the cold shoulder. Syria is the only nation with an able military force willing to fight against the ISIL, and the only nation at this point that has a chance at defeating them. Giving Al-Assad air support and lifting economic restrictions would see the absolute death of the ISIL, with minimal cost.

He might be better than ISIS, but he isn't anywhere near good.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Assad is better by far, we should be helping him to defeat the ISIL instead of giving him the cold shoulder. Syria is the only nation with an able military force willing to fight against the ISIL, and the only nation at this point that has a chance at defeating them. Giving Al-Assad air support and lifting economic restrictions would see the absolute death of the ISIL, with minimal cost.

He might be better than ISIS, but he isn't anywhere near good.

How so? He has a secular government, protected minority rights, had a decent economy going before the war. Syria under Assad before the war was definitely one of the better nations in the Middle East.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

That is absolute Rubbish. Here's why. Putin (whom I consider with honour to be the New Stalin) & Xi Jinping (whom I consider to be the New Mao, non-Kissingerified) are renewing pre-Split ties between Russia in addition to China, especially this major recent gas deal. Furthermore, China's Xiaoping faction of Gorbies is being quietly ushered aside. Indeed, Xi Jinping belongs to the more original faction of the CPC.



This is something that befits our NATO/EU mobsters more than it shalt ever befit China.

Lol okay. If you think China would actually join Russia in war because it signed a treaty for natural gas then you really have no understanding of how opportunism works. Russia and NATO go to war, Russia starts getting crushed after not all that long and provided it doesn't go nuclear China joins in and attacks Siberia. Suddenly all those immense resources are under Chinese control and give an immense boost to the Chinese economy as they are given to Chinese companies and ministries to exploit, maybe even pushing them ahead of the US in GDP size.

Do you really think a state with an increasingly sophisticated + Soviet-era pinnacle military like Russia can lose? Lol. Did you even pay attention at the Ratnik future soldier programme, the T-90MS, Armata, Kurganets-25, Bumerang, BMP-"Atom", BMP-T 72, BTR-T, 2S35, C-400, C-500, PAK FA, FGFA, Ka-52, Mi-28, PAK DA, Project 21956, Yasen, Borei, Antey, Kirov, Su-47 etcetera they are making? In addition, projects such as Ranets-E, if resurrected, will make Russian air space nigh difficult for imperialist forces to penetrate. They do not need to go nuclear. They have the conventional power to win any war defending against NATO invasions at this point.

I do not believe in Machiavellism. Its a rubbish concept that seeks to generalise everything into it, whence not everything follows this concept.

As of now in Syria there are two factions that have a serious chance of winning. One of them is Bashar Al-Assad, who maintains a secular regime that grants civil rights to the populace and maintains order between the various Muslims and Christians in the nation. The other is the ISIL, which wants to establish a jihadist regime which would probably launch a massive genocide against all non-muslims, instill sharia law, and generally fuck things up in the region to a huge degree. Now, which one do you prefer? I would choose Assad any day over the ISIL.

That's just my view of things.

But guess why ISIS became so powerful? Because of a war written and directed by Bashar al Assad.
Both Assad's regime and ISIS are terrible.

It is nonsense to believe Assad even created ISIS. ISIS, as Snowden recently revealed, is "Operation Hornet's Nest", a joint CIA-MI6-Mossad project.

He might be better than ISIS, but he isn't anywhere near good.

How so? He has a secular government, protected minority rights, had a decent economy going before the war. Syria under Assad before the war was definitely one of the better nations in the Middle East.

There is actually something we can both agree on here.

[Yehudda]

Lol okay. If you think China would actually join Russia in war because it signed a treaty for natural gas then you really have no understanding of how opportunism works. Russia and NATO go to war, Russia starts getting crushed after not all that long and provided it doesn't go nuclear China joins in and attacks Siberia. Suddenly all those immense resources are under Chinese control and give an immense boost to the Chinese economy as they are given to Chinese companies and ministries to exploit, maybe even pushing them ahead of the US in GDP size.

Do you really think a state with an increasingly sophisticated + Soviet-era pinnacle military like Russia can lose? Lol. Did you even pay attention at the Ratnik future soldier programme, the T-90MS, Armata, Kurganets-25, Bumerang, BMP-"Atom", BMP-T 72, BTR-T, 2S35, C-400, C-500, PAK FA, FGFA, Ka-52, Mi-28, PAK DA, Project 21956, Yasen, Borei, Antey, Kirov, Su-47 etcetera they are making? In addition, projects such as Ranets-E, if resurrected, will make Russian air space nigh difficult for imperialist forces to penetrate. They do not need to go nuclear. They have the conventional power to win any war defending against NATO invasions at this point.

I do not believe in Machiavellism. Its a rubbish concept that seeks to generalise everything into it, whence not everything follows this concept.

But guess why ISIS became so powerful? Because of a war written and directed by Bashar al Assad.
Both Assad's regime and ISIS are terrible.

It is nonsense to believe Assad even created ISIS. ISIS, as Snowden recently revealed, is "Operation Hornet's Nest", a joint CIA-MI6-Mossad project.

Obviously you do not understand what people are saying.
He didn't fucking create ISIS, but because of the war he is responsible for ISIS will gain more power.

[Murkwood]

Lol okay. If you think China would actually join Russia in war because it signed a treaty for natural gas then you really have no understanding of how opportunism works. Russia and NATO go to war, Russia starts getting crushed after not all that long and provided it doesn't go nuclear China joins in and attacks Siberia. Suddenly all those immense resources are under Chinese control and give an immense boost to the Chinese economy as they are given to Chinese companies and ministries to exploit, maybe even pushing them ahead of the US in GDP size.

Do you really think a state with an increasingly sophisticated + Soviet-era pinnacle military like Russia can lose? Lol. Did you even pay attention at the Ratnik future soldier programme, the T-90MS, Armata, Kurganets-25, Bumerang, BMP-"Atom", BMP-T 72, BTR-T, 2S35, C-400, C-500, PAK FA, FGFA, Ka-52, Mi-28, PAK DA, Project 21956, Yasen, Borei, Antey, Kirov, Su-47 etcetera they are making? In addition, projects such as Ranets-E, if resurrected, will make Russian air space nigh difficult for imperialist forces to penetrate. They do not need to go nuclear. They have the conventional power to win any war defending against NATO invasions at this point.

I do not believe in Machiavellism. Its a rubbish concept that seeks to generalise everything into it, whence not everything follows this concept.

But guess why ISIS became so powerful? Because of a war written and directed by Bashar al Assad.
Both Assad's regime and ISIS are terrible.

It is nonsense to believe Assad even created ISIS. ISIS, as Snowden recently revealed, is "Operation Hornet's Nest", a joint CIA-MI6-Mossad project.

How so? He has a secular government, protected minority rights, had a decent economy going before the war. Syria under Assad before the war was definitely one of the better nations in the Middle East.

There is actually something we can both agree on here.

I can find no evidence for a supposed "Operation Hornet's Nest" from any reputable news source.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Do you really think a state with an increasingly sophisticated + Soviet-era pinnacle military like Russia can lose? Lol. Did you even pay attention at the Ratnik future soldier programme, the T-90MS, Armata, Kurganets-25, Bumerang, BMP-"Atom", BMP-T 72, BTR-T, 2S35, C-400, C-500, PAK FA, FGFA, Ka-52, Mi-28, PAK DA, Project 21956, Yasen, Borei, Antey, Kirov, Su-47 etcetera they are making? In addition, projects such as Ranets-E, if resurrected, will make Russian air space nigh difficult for imperialist forces to penetrate. They do not need to go nuclear. They have the conventional power to win any war defending against NATO invasions at this point.

I do pay attention to all these, I'm big on military things and I like engaging in debates about the topic. I could go into an in depth post on each thing you mentioned and it's ups and downs but this isn't the thread for that.

But guess why ISIS became so powerful? Because of a war written and directed by Bashar al Assad.
Both Assad's regime and ISIS are terrible.

Why would Assad want to fund and create a group, just to oppose his rule? Seems kinda, counter productive.

It is nonsense to believe Assad even created ISIS. ISIS, as Snowden recently revealed, is "Operation Hornet's Nest", a joint CIA-MI6-Mossad project.

Didn't hear about this, source?

There is actually something we can both agree on here.

[Christiaanistan]

Eh, tangential question. Is takfiri being used literally, here, or as a more general term of abuse?

I looked the word up, and it seems to refer to any Muslim who accuses another Muslim of being an "infidel" or something of that nature, sort of like a Protestant who refuses to acknowledge that Catholics are members of the same religion as themselves. Actually, there are Protestants who will not acknowledge that anyone who doesn't follow their particular doctrine are not really Christians, but most of them have an ideology that is so perverted away from their scriptures that it's actually laughable, yet they really think they're "the real deal."

Why don't you Muslims just start becoming atheists like everyone else? It's very relaxing.

[Yehudda]

But guess why ISIS became so powerful? Because of a war written and directed by Bashar al Assad.
Both Assad's regime and ISIS are terrible.

Why would Assad want to fund and create a group, just oppose his rule? Seems kinda, counter productive.

God, why people don't understand English?
He obviously didn't create them, but he created the war that brings them more power.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Why would Assad want to fund and create a group, just oppose his rule? Seems kinda, counter productive.

God, why people don't understand English?
He obviously didn't create them, but he created the war that brings them more power.

I was typing up my post before I saw you responded to someone else saying that. Calm yourself.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Do you really think a state with an increasingly sophisticated + Soviet-era pinnacle military like Russia can lose? Lol. Did you even pay attention at the Ratnik future soldier programme, the T-90MS, Armata, Kurganets-25, Bumerang, BMP-"Atom", BMP-T 72, BTR-T, 2S35, C-400, C-500, PAK FA, FGFA, Ka-52, Mi-28, PAK DA, Project 21956, Yasen, Borei, Antey, Kirov, Su-47 etcetera they are making? In addition, projects such as Ranets-E, if resurrected, will make Russian air space nigh difficult for imperialist forces to penetrate. They do not need to go nuclear. They have the conventional power to win any war defending against NATO invasions at this point.

I do not believe in Machiavellism. Its a rubbish concept that seeks to generalise everything into it, whence not everything follows this concept.



It is nonsense to believe Assad even created ISIS. ISIS, as Snowden recently revealed, is "Operation Hornet's Nest", a joint CIA-MI6-Mossad project.



There is actually something we can both agree on here.

I can find no evidence for a supposed "Operation Hornet's Nest" from any reputable news source.

There is no such thing as a reputable news source that will not spout rubbish about nations NATO wants to obliterate.

Let me help with getting the sources you need for this: http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDeta ... yid=381153

Do you really think a state with an increasingly sophisticated + Soviet-era pinnacle military like Russia can lose? Lol. Did you even pay attention at the Ratnik future soldier programme, the T-90MS, Armata, Kurganets-25, Bumerang, BMP-"Atom", BMP-T 72, BTR-T, 2S35, C-400, C-500, PAK FA, FGFA, Ka-52, Mi-28, PAK DA, Project 21956, Yasen, Borei, Antey, Kirov, Su-47 etcetera they are making? In addition, projects such as Ranets-E, if resurrected, will make Russian air space nigh difficult for imperialist forces to penetrate. They do not need to go nuclear. They have the conventional power to win any war defending against NATO invasions at this point.

I do not believe in Machiavellism. Its a rubbish concept that seeks to generalise everything into it, whence not everything follows this concept.



It is nonsense to believe Assad even created ISIS. ISIS, as Snowden recently revealed, is "Operation Hornet's Nest", a joint CIA-MI6-Mossad project.

Obviously you do not understand what people are saying.
He didn't fucking create ISIS, but because of the war he is responsible for ISIS will gain more power.

What is it about him not being responsible for the war do you not get? Its NOT Assad that should be blamed. Its the mobsters wanting to carve out a neo-colonised Syria, that should be blamed.

[Doitsu-san]

Why would Assad want to fund and create a group, just oppose his rule? Seems kinda, counter productive.

God, why people don't understand English?
He obviously didn't create them, but he created the war that brings them more power.

He didn't create the war, dissenters demanding ridiculously unrealistic demands from a dictatorship created the war.

[Alyakia]

i'm no mod but maybe you guys should like take this to a syria thread or something

[Souriya Al-Assad]

God, why people don't understand English?
He obviously didn't create them, but he created the war that brings them more power.

He didn't create the war, dissenters demanding ridiculously unrealistic demands from a dictatorship created the war.

"Dissenters" being sectarian fifth columnists chanting "Alawites to the coffin, Christians to Beirut!" - #Democracy?

[New Tyran]

For any who are interested. Livestream from Gaza. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/forooster ... ce/pop-out

[Souriya Al-Assad]

In other developments, more Israeli soldiers are breaking the silence to expose crimes of fellow IDF members, officers & Zionist régime entity elites: https://www.facebook.com/may.shigenobu/ ... 0682195325

The Zionist entity completely shreds its false "democracy", in which local politicians in Haifa encourage thugs to hail stones at anyone daring to support Palestine utilising rallies: https://www.facebook.com/may.shigenobu/ ... 1038515325

Israhell utilises cancer-inducing bombs against Gazzans: https://www.facebook.com/may.shigenobu/ ... 1167240325

From someone I closely follow on FB whom is well versed on the situation.

Oh, moreover CNN censors a journalist's tweet whilst possibly fired her over speaking the truth about Zionist brutality: rt.com/usa/173888-cnn-reporter-scum-israel/
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2014/ ... cum-tweet/

[Doitsu-san]

In other developments, more Israeli soldiers are breaking the silence to expose crimes of fellow IDF members, officers & Zionist régime entity elites: https://www.facebook.com/may.shigenobu/ ... 0682195325

The Zionist entity completely shreds its false "democracy", in which local politicians in Haifa encourage thugs to hail stones at anyone daring to support Palestine utilising rallies: https://www.facebook.com/may.shigenobu/ ... 1038515325

Israhell utilises cancer-inducing bombs against Gazzans: https://www.facebook.com/may.shigenobu/ ... 1167240325

From someone I closely follow on FB whom is well versed on the situation.

Oh, moreover CNN censors a journalist's tweet whilst possibly fired her over speaking the truth about Zionist brutality: rt.com/usa/173888-cnn-reporter-scum-israel/
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2014/ ... cum-tweet/

Facebook and biased propaganda sites are not valid sources. I think this is the first time I have seen anyone use Facebook as a source.

[Mirkana]

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=714665

The office of the coordinator of Israeli government activities in the territories Yoav Mordechai announced Sunday that Israel decided to open a field hospital at Erez crossing Sunday.

It will receive Palestinian men, women, children and elderly people injured during the ongoing fighting in Gaza.

Mordechai added in a statement released Sunday that injured Palestinians could be transferred to Israeli hospitals if that is necessary.

Well, at least some good news.

[Murkwood]

I can find no evidence for a supposed "Operation Hornet's Nest" from any reputable news source.

There is no such thing as a reputable news source that will not spout rubbish about nations NATO wants to obliterate.

Let me help with getting the sources you need for this: http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDeta ... yid=381153

So, you could only find one unsourced story from the mouthpiece of a dictatorship that hasn't been reported elsewhere?

[Souriya Al-Assad]

There is no such thing as a reputable news source that will not spout rubbish about nations NATO wants to obliterate.

Let me help with getting the sources you need for this: http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDeta ... yid=381153

So, you could only find one unsourced story from the mouthpiece of a dictatorship that hasn't been reported elsewhere?

It has been reported elsewhere as well. & That site for a moment looked like a Bahraini revolutionary site against Khalifah's vile régime.