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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:30 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
Arkmenistan wrote:yes one homophobic attack vs hanging by hamas

Homophobia is cultural in many parts of the globe and it seems the US even suffered from it every now and then.


But most countries don't hang people for their sexuality.
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Postby Arkmenistan (Ancient) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:32 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
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I've got news for i don't hate Palestine
it's just Hamas and any what has Ireland got to do with it
Israel is not worried about Ireland cause look Michael d Higgins is Ireland in a nutshell
retarded pervy i say yes free Palestine from Hamas

No it's mainly because our politicians are too weak to do much. An I say free Palestine from Zionism.
And Ireland. And Palestine have both suffered similar fates in their quest of resistance and establishing a state.

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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:35 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:Homophobia is cultural in many parts of the globe and it seems the US even suffered from it every now and then.


But most countries don't hang people for their sexuality.

Most. I'm in no way saying the ME is culturally advanced I'm simply stating that a European nation like Israel is going to be more liberal in some cases.

EDIT: Reminder most ME countries other than Jordan are like this.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:36 am

Arkmenistan wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:No it's mainly because our politicians are too weak to do much. An I say free Palestine from Zionism.
And Ireland. And Palestine have both suffered similar fates in their quest of resistance and establishing a state.

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Pictures don't really add credibility to your cause, and I'd still support the child dieing for his country as long as he himself wanted to do so.
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Postby Highever » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:38 am

Merizoc wrote:Well, that's something, I guess.

At this point anything of that sort is at least something.
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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:37 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
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So I would be safe wakling in palestine with my husband right Benian? as a gay man.

Palestine: resistance for Islam.

If Fatah wins after Palestine is retaken then most likely you could.

And it isn't safe for you to be gay in Israeli occupied Palestine anyways http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/girl-israeli-gay-pride-jerusalem-dies-wounds-ultra-orthodox-jew-150802150339623.html
Not all resistance groups are Islamic by the way.


Fatah has no intention of being "liberal" there a puppet show for naive westerners and college liberals to hang on to.

they train child soldiers to fight like hamas.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:41 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:If Fatah wins after Palestine is retaken then most likely you could.

And it isn't safe for you to be gay in Israeli occupied Palestine anyways http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/girl-israeli-gay-pride-jerusalem-dies-wounds-ultra-orthodox-jew-150802150339623.html
Not all resistance groups are Islamic by the way.


Fatah has no intention of being "liberal" there a puppet show for naive westerners and college liberals to hang on to.

they train child soldiers to fight like hamas.

Fatah is a secular resistance movement.
And Israel trains their children to become soldiers, why should any militant Palestinian group follow international law if Israel won't?
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:45 am

tbf that would never happen anywhere else *ignores pictures of jewish kids writing cutsey messages on bombs and kicking palestinian women*
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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:46 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Fatah has no intention of being "liberal" there a puppet show for naive westerners and college liberals to hang on to.

they train child soldiers to fight like hamas.

Fatah is a secular resistance movement.
And Israel trains their children to become soldiers, why should any militant Palestinian group follow international law if Israel won't?


No, Israel dosn't recruit kids into a "child army"
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:47 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:Fatah is a secular resistance movement.
And Israel trains their children to become soldiers, why should any militant Palestinian group follow international law if Israel won't?


No, Israel dosn't recruit kids into a "child army"

And they don't train them to use weaponry? But you also didn't answer my question on why Hamas and other resistance groups should follow international law of Israel doesn't?
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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:49 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
No, Israel dosn't recruit kids into a "child army"

And they don't train them to use weaponry? But you also didn't answer my question on why Hamas and other resistance groups should follow international law of Israel doesn't?


Israel tries it's best to follow international law, Hamas has ZERO qualms about killing civilians.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:51 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:And they don't train them to use weaponry? But you also didn't answer my question on why Hamas and other resistance groups should follow international law of Israel doesn't?


Israel tries it's best to follow international law, Hamas has ZERO qualms about killing civilians.

Are you sure about that? Because the UN on several occasions has said quite the opposite of Israel.
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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:53 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Israel tries it's best to follow international law, Hamas has ZERO qualms about killing civilians.

Are you sure about that? Because the UN on several occasions has said quite the opposite of Israel.


The UN?

do you know what shit-hole nations make up much of the UN?
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:55 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:Are you sure about that? Because the UN on several occasions has said quite the opposite of Israel.


The UN?

do you know what shit-hole nations make up much of the UN?

So the UN was legitimate when it gave the Israelis someone else's land but when Israel commited war crimes and they called them out on it they're illegitimate. Funny.
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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:56 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
The UN?

do you know what shit-hole nations make up much of the UN?

So the UN was legitimate when it gave the Israelis someone else's land but when Israel commited war crimes and they called them out on it they're illegitimate. Funny.


What was palestine before israel...
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:00 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:So the UN was legitimate when it gave the Israelis someone else's land but when Israel commited war crimes and they called them out on it they're illegitimate. Funny.


What was palestine before israel...

So you don't want to answer, fine.
It was an area in which thousands lived happily be they Jewish, Christain and Muslim.
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Postby West Aurelia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:12 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:And they don't train them to use weaponry? But you also didn't answer my question on why Hamas and other resistance groups should follow international law of Israel doesn't?


Israel tries it's best to follow international law, Hamas has ZERO qualms about killing civilians.


https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015 ... lity-gaza/

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... -operation

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/world ... ldier.html
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:22 am

West Aurelia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Israel tries it's best to follow international law, Hamas has ZERO qualms about killing civilians.


https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015 ... lity-gaza/

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... -operation

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/world ... ldier.html

You antisemite!
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Postby Aelex » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:25 am

New Benian Republic wrote:So you don't want to answer, fine.
It was an area in which thousands lived happily be they Jewish, Christain and Muslim.

False. It was an area where Muslim lived happily and treated as second-class human Jewish and Christian, discriminating them when not directly threatening them.
If the whole "they were all cohabiting peacefully" was true, my grand-father would never had to flee Syria when the French decolonized it.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:30 am

Aelex wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:So you don't want to answer, fine.
It was an area in which thousands lived happily be they Jewish, Christain and Muslim.

False. It was an area where Muslim lived happily and treated as second-class human Jewish and Christian, discriminating them when not directly threatening them.
If the whole "they were all cohabiting peacefully" was true, my grand-father would never had to flee Syria when the French decolonized it.

The king of Jordan literally sent troops to Jordan to protect a few Christians and some old church. Just learned this about an hour ago from his grandsons book, great boon by the way check it out. "Our last best chance" and I'm usually EXTREMLY against going to peace with someone you view as an occupier but he almost swayed me.
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Postby Jagellion » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:57 am

Here's a question. How would Palestine survive as a nation without other nations help if it were freed?
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:03 am

Jagellion wrote:Here's a question. How would Palestine survive as a nation without other nations help if it were freed?

The same way Jordan does.
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Postby Jagellion » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:07 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
Jagellion wrote:Here's a question. How would Palestine survive as a nation without other nations help if it were freed?

The same way Jordan does.

Jordan doesn't have as many terrorists.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:08 am

Jagellion wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:The same way Jordan does.

Jordan doesn't have as many terrorists.

Once Palestine is free that means that Israel isn't there that's how there's no terrorists.
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Postby Jagellion » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:12 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
Jagellion wrote:Jordan doesn't have as many terrorists.

Once Palestine is free that means that Israel isn't there that's how there's no terrorists.

That's not even worth debating...
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