Israel / Gaza / Hamas Mega-Thread

[Benian Republic]

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this imagine never fails to make me smile

i mean, just look at it

Palestinian controlled areas?

[Cederland]

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this imagine never fails to make me smile

i mean, just look at it

They could have had this

but the Palestinians rejected it and invaded Israel.

[Alyakia]

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this imagine never fails to make me smile

i mean, just look at it

Palestinian controlled areas?

yes

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this imagine never fails to make me smile

i mean, just look at it

They could have had this

but the Palestinians rejected it and invaded Israel.

-ottoman lord steals your land
-sells it to people that want to make a new country
-the new owners treat you like shit
-another empire comes along and promises to make your area independent if you help them
-whooops turns out they promised it to someone else as well
-eventually people just decide to split it in half, no nation in the region votes for it, nations on the other side of the world get it through
-you are expected to suck it up and deal with it

yeah great fucking deal lol i wish i was palestinian so i could have gotten it on these cool deals

[Akrasad]

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this imagine never fails to make me smile

i mean, just look at it

They could have had this

but the Palestinians rejected it and invaded Israel.

Woah there nelly, where did you ever read that Palestine invaded Israel? Israel actually made a military rebellion and took over back in the 60's

[Washington Resistance Army]

They could have had this
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but the Palestinians rejected it and invaded Israel.

Because the deal was dumb as shit, the Jews were a minority in all but two cities yet they were being given half of the land.

[Cederland]

-ottoman lord steals your land
-sells it to people that want to make a new country
-the new owners treat you like shit
-another empire comes along and promises to make your area independent if you help them
-whooops turns out they promised it to someone else as well
-eventually people just decide to split it in half, no nation in the region votes for it, nations on the other side of the world get it through
-you are expected to suck it up and deal with it

Ottomans were the first Arabs in Israel, it was a Jewish semi-autonomous region of Rome inhabited by mainly Hebrews and Assyrians until the Ottomans took over.

[Benian Republic]

They could have had this
snip
but the Palestinians rejected it and invaded Israel.

Because the deal was dumb as shit, the Jews were a minority in all but two cities yet they were being given half of the land.

I'd say any person here would fight to the end if it had been their people.

[Washington Resistance Army]

-ottoman lord steals your land
-sells it to people that want to make a new country
-the new owners treat you like shit
-another empire comes along and promises to make your area independent if you help them
-whooops turns out they promised it to someone else as well
-eventually people just decide to split it in half, no nation in the region votes for it, nations on the other side of the world get it through
-you are expected to suck it up and deal with it

Ottomans were the first Arabs in Israel, it was a Jewish semi-autonomous region of Rome inhabited by mainly Hebrews and Assyrians until the Ottomans took over.

The Ottomans weren't Arabs bud.

[Alyakia]

-ottoman lord steals your land
-sells it to people that want to make a new country
-the new owners treat you like shit
-another empire comes along and promises to make your area independent if you help them
-whooops turns out they promised it to someone else as well
-eventually people just decide to split it in half, no nation in the region votes for it, nations on the other side of the world get it through
-you are expected to suck it up and deal with it

Ottomans were the first Arabs in Israel, it was a Jewish semi-autonomous region of Rome inhabited by mainly Hebrews and Assyrians until the Ottomans took over.

1) turkey became the power centre of the ottoman empire. they were not arabs.
2) who gives a fuck if its an arab lord that steals your land? he still stole it.

[Cederland]

Ottomans were the first Arabs in Israel, it was a Jewish semi-autonomous region of Rome inhabited by mainly Hebrews and Assyrians until the Ottomans took over.

1) turkey became the power centre of the ottoman empire. they were not arabs.
2) who gives a fuck if its an arab lord that steals your land? he still stole it.

So then you support Israel? Because if the Ottomans stole the land, and the people the land was being stolen from were the Israeli Hebrew Jews, and you support the people who's land was stolen by Ottomans, than you support Israel.

[Washington Resistance Army]

1) turkey became the power centre of the ottoman empire. they were not arabs.
2) who gives a fuck if its an arab lord that steals your land? he still stole it.

So then you support Israel? Because if the Ottomans stole the land, and the people the land was being stolen from were the Israeli Hebrew Jews, and you support the people who's land was stolen by Ottomans, than you support Israel.

Your lack of historical knowledge is also appalling, the land was conquered by the Muslims in the 600's.

[Alyakia]

1) turkey became the power centre of the ottoman empire. they were not arabs.
2) who gives a fuck if its an arab lord that steals your land? he still stole it.

So then you support Israel? Because if the Ottomans stole the land, and the people the land was being stolen from were the Israeli Hebrew Jews, and you support the people who's land was stolen by Ottomans, than you support Israel.

no the people whos land was being stolen was the people living in palestine who were not hebrew jews

[Vitaphone Racing]

They could have had this
snip
but the Palestinians rejected it and invaded Israel.

Because the deal was dumb as shit, the Jews were a minority in all but two cities yet they were being given half of the land.

Mostly uninhabitable desert.

[Cederland]

So then you support Israel? Because if the Ottomans stole the land, and the people the land was being stolen from were the Israeli Hebrew Jews, and you support the people who's land was stolen by Ottomans, than you support Israel.

no the people whos land was being stolen was the people living in palestine who were not hebrew jews

They were Christians at the time of the Mamluk takeover, the Mamluks replaced them with Muslim arabs who joined the Ottomans in the 1500s.

[Aelex]

I'd say any person here would fight to the end if it had been their people.

No. Every intelligent people would have suck with it 'till they were effectively able to fuck them up. Palestinian were given a not so good deal but still decent one. Then they genuinely tried to genocide the jews and lost. And thus as the adage sayed, "vae victis" especially when the "victis" isn't the one who was expected at first.

[Kubra]

-ottoman lord steals your land
-sells it to people that want to make a new country
-the new owners treat you like shit
-another empire comes along and promises to make your area independent if you help them
-whooops turns out they promised it to someone else as well
-eventually people just decide to split it in half, no nation in the region votes for it, nations on the other side of the world get it through
-you are expected to suck it up and deal with it

Ottomans were the first Arabs in Israel, it was a Jewish semi-autonomous region of Rome inhabited by mainly Hebrews and Assyrians until the Ottomans took over.

Oh yeah relations between the jews and rome were just peachy rome was definitely down with local autonomy and culture independence of its provinces
except the part where the romans drove most of the jews out of judea

[The Archregimancy]

Locked while I review the last 15 pages or so.

[The Archregimancy]

It's taking every ounce of restraint not to correct Cederland's appalling grasp of history, but alas I have a moderation issues to deal with.

In gaza every time a jew gets killed it's party time. That's the difference.

If I was the gazans id be partying.

It's quite obviousyou view the jews at occupiers. I doubt you have the same attitute towards arab/palestinian citizens of Israel. You're an anti-semite.

You are once again mistaken, Anyone who supports or recognizes the state of Israel is evil be they Arab or Jewish.

But you party when Jews die, including the several million Arab Jews. 30% of Israelis are arabs, and 19% are Muslims, meaning that the remaining 11% are Arab Jews, so you party when Natives die?

Once again when Israelis die.

No, someone who parties over the death of civilians (you) is far more evil than a group of people who want a tiny sliver of land from a group of people who have 21 other states to go to so that they don't have to face persecution from racist Europeans (you).

The Israelis are an evil people and evil must be defeated with evil. That tiny sliver of land is worth more than life to the Palestinians who day after day blow themselves up and die in gunfights to protect it. The Israelis commit terrible war crimes against the Palestinians all I support is returning the favor.

Then he is a terroist.

He's an idiot I only support killing Israelis.

*** Straight DEAT for supporting the killing of members of these fora and celebrating their potential death *** - next to which, calling them evil seems almost a subsidiary point.

So it's bad to bash Israel for succeeding in ethnic cleansing?

And Great Britain had made an empire across the world, which Ireland has failed to even try. Ireland has no territories separate from Ireland, heck! They even have a chunk of their island taken From them! The only thing Ireland has given to the world is immigrants and potatoes. Both covered in dirt and wanting to leave that awful island

*** Warned for trolling the Irish ***

Ooh Zionism silencing dissent.

*Silencing your admiration of terrorism and ethno-religious cleansing.

You're pretty disgusting individual TBH, even your fellow pro-Palestinians do not support genocide... Even a lot of Neo-Nazis aren't that bad.

*** Warned for flamebaiting ***


The thread will temporarily stay locked while I implement all of the above; I'll then re-open the thread.

[Kalosia]

I don't watch this thread but I believe I'm not the first to point out the United States of America and Israel were founded in similar ways, making things like these... not having a very strong point.


What do you think is the main reason people generally do not acknowledge the US's actions but actively and passionately point out literally everything that Israel does?

Maybe the fact that one of them happened hundreds of years ago and the other happening now is a main reason, but surely there must be a lot of antizionism (and veiled antisemitism - the two not interchangeable) coming into play?

edit: Despite the above, I find that Israel's actions are still no less excusable than the genocide of millions of Native Americans, even though the latter has done much more damage.

[Jagellion]

I don't watch this thread but I believe I'm not the first to point out the United States of America and Israel were founded in similar ways, making things like these... not having a very strong point.
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What do you think is the main reason people generally do not acknowledge the US's actions but actively and passionately point out literally everything that Israel does?

Maybe the fact that one of them happened hundreds of years ago and the other happening now is a main reason, but surely there must be a lot of antizionism (and veiled antisemitism - the two not interchangeable) coming into play?

edit: Despite the above, I find that Israel's actions are still no less excusable than the genocide of millions of Native Americans, even though the latter has done much more damage.

Maybe because people don't like Jews or native Americans have integrated in American society now. and to be honest most people with Native American ancestry are white people who are 0.00000002 percent Cherokee. with the picture, how about 2000 bc (or something like that) Israel has the land, and then America takes all of it. And then go back to that pic.

[Palakistan]

Ler me be clear: I don't support Hamas or any terror organization. I do support Palestine as a people. I'm sure they are sick and tired of this war. So why doesn't the Palestianians kick out those terrorists?

[Kalosia]

Ler me be clear: I don't support Hamas or any terror organization. I do support Palestine as a people. I'm sure they are sick and tired of this war. So why doesn't the Palestianians kick out those terrorists?

Especially for Gazans, it's their only hope. Maybe if Israel wasn't there they may have been just politically unstable just like some Middle Eastern countries right now, but I believe it is Hamas who keeps their morale up.

With the picture, how about 2000 bc (or something like that) Israel has the land, and then America takes all of it. And then go back to that pic.

So you think the existence of Israel today is more justified than the USA? I kinda agree. Replace Israel with America/White people, and America with Native Americans in that pic, and you get what actually happened.

[Jagellion]

Ler me be clear: I don't support Hamas or any terror organization. I do support Palestine as a people. I'm sure they are sick and tired of this war. So why doesn't the Palestianians kick out those terrorists?

Especially for Gazans, it's their only hope. Maybe if Israel wasn't there they may have been just politically unstable just like some Middle Eastern countries right now, but I believe it is Hamas who keeps their morale up.

With the picture, how about 2000 bc (or something like that) Israel has the land, and then America takes all of it. And then go back to that pic.

So you think the existence of Israel today is more justified than the USA? I kinda agree. Replace Israel with America/White people, and America with Native Americans in that pic, and you get what actually happened.

Definitely Israel existing is more justified than America existing (coming from an American). But then again I think America has done a lot of good and a lot of bad, but if America never existed we wouldn't be talking now, although that would be good in a way, less global warming and all that crap. But it's too late to return it to the native Americans, there aren't that many, like what I said before about the percent and stuff.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ler me be clear: I don't support Hamas or any terror organization. I do support Palestine as a people. I'm sure they are sick and tired of this war. So why doesn't the Palestianians kick out those terrorists?

Because they're the only people who will stand up to Israel because even though the Palestinian Authority is all about peace they still get shit all from Israel. Not to mention Israel killing thousands of people in Gaza gives Hamas a lot of new recruits who are very angry.

[Jagellion]

Ler me be clear: I don't support Hamas or any terror organization. I do support Palestine as a people. I'm sure they are sick and tired of this war. So why doesn't the Palestianians kick out those terrorists?

Because they're the only people who will stand up to Israel because even though the Palestinian Authority is all about peace they still get shit all from Israel. Not to mention Israel killing thousands of people in Gaza gives Hamas a lot of new recruits who are very angry.

They're the only people to stand up to us cause of the war in '67. 3 against 1 and israel beat them in 6 days. May I mention that Hamas hides in schools and hospitals as well