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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:04 pm

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Benian Republic wrote:Hamas and Fatah have a ton of local support Hamas and Fatah and all the other little groups are their defense forces keeping the Israelis out of Gaza and trying to remove them from the West Bank.

A ton of local support can be a few hundred. The IDF has the whole population under its security and without it, so many Israeli civilians would be killed because the iron done wouldn't exist without the IDF

Israel could dissolve the Iron Dome entirely and there still wouldn't be shit Israeli casualties.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:05 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No even the ones that get through, the Israeli government said they don't do shit because they're nothing more than shit powered fireworks. The exact words were they're just psychological and do almost no damage, if they're lucky they hit a tree.

That's not the Israelis fault, if there were no iron dome a ton of missiles can do a lot.


no they can't 99% of them are terrible

listen to what we are saying. go look it up. i understand that you've probably grown up hearing that israel is having death rained down upon it so it can be hard to hear that is not the case but there comes a point when you are just wrong (compare israeli casulties pre and post iron dome) and are refusing to accept it.
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Postby Vaikneland » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:05 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Vaikneland wrote:A ton of local support can be a few hundred. The IDF has the whole population under its security and without it, so many Israeli civilians would be killed because the iron done wouldn't exist without the IDF


iron dome's effect on causalities is negligible. this is because casualties were negligible.

The casualties are negligible because they have the iron dome to stop them, you just repeated yourself!
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Postby Palakistan » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:06 pm

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Palakistan wrote:You want me to drive to Palestine and go to their terror networks and watch them kill people to prove my point?


You want me to drive to Gaza and watch Israel destroy hundreds of homes, hospitals and whatever else and kill thousands to prove mine?

No. I understand that happens. Not on purpose. This doesn't happen:
"I feel great today, how about we launch some F-16's and bomb some Palestianians."

This happens:
"Let's launch some rockets and blow some Israelis up!"
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Postby Vaikneland » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:06 pm

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Vaikneland wrote:That's not the Israelis fault, if there were no iron dome a ton of missiles can do a lot.


They didn't before the Iron Dome existed, you're talking out of your ass.

The iron some went up before they sent missiles to Israel, the iron some isn't just to protect Israel from specifically Palestine, they have plenty of neighbours that hate them
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Postby Benian Republic » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:07 pm

Palakistan wrote:
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You want me to drive to Gaza and watch Israel destroy hundreds of homes, hospitals and whatever else and kill thousands to prove mine?

No. I understand that happens. Not on purpose. This doesn't happen:
"I feel great today, how about we launch some F-16's and bomb some Palestianians."

This happens:
"Let's launch some rockets and blow some Israelis up!"

You aren't that far off from the truth.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:07 pm

2009 saw 569 rockets with 11 injured and 0 dead
2010 saw 150 rockets with 25 injured and 1 dead
2011 saw 419 rockets with 81 injuries and 2 dead

iron dome was implemented in... 2011. oh my god, iron dome must have increased casualties!
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:07 pm

Palakistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You want me to drive to Gaza and watch Israel destroy hundreds of homes, hospitals and whatever else and kill thousands to prove mine?

No. I understand that happens. Not on purpose. This doesn't happen:
"I feel great today, how about we launch some F-16's and bomb some Palestianians."

This happens:
"Let's launch some rockets and blow some Israelis up!"


Really? Is that why they had a ceasefire for several years before Israel broke it?

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They didn't before the Iron Dome existed, you're talking out of your ass.

The iron some went up before they sent missiles to Israel, the iron some isn't just to protect Israel from specifically Palestine, they have plenty of neighbours that hate them


:eyebrow:

You are aware this has been going on for a long time right?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:08 pm

Alyakia wrote:2009 saw 569 rockets with 11 injured and 0 dead
2010 saw 150 rockets with 25 injured and 1 dead
2011 saw 419 rockets with 81 injuries and 2 dead

iron dome was implemented in... 2011. oh my god, iron dome must have increased casualties!


Iron Dome confirmed for Hamas.
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Postby Vaikneland » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:08 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Vaikneland wrote:A ton of local support can be a few hundred. The IDF has the whole population under its security and without it, so many Israeli civilians would be killed because the iron done wouldn't exist without the IDF

It's obviously Much higher. Did you remember how they protected that baby from those settlers or how they are so great at protecting Palestinians. I don't care about the safety of Israelis.

That's inhumane. I hate Ireland because Great Britain is better. If Ireland were a bug if stomp on it twist my foot, what do you say about that? That's what you're basically saying
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:08 pm

Vaikneland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
They didn't before the Iron Dome existed, you're talking out of your ass.

The iron some went up before they sent missiles to Israel, the iron some isn't just to protect Israel from specifically Palestine, they have plenty of neighbours that hate them


what? iron dome was made in 2011 rockets started in 2001. i hate to be nasty but come the fuck on dude.
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Postby Benian Republic » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:09 pm

Vaikneland wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:It's obviously Much higher. Did you remember how they protected that baby from those settlers or how they are so great at protecting Palestinians. I don't care about the safety of Israelis.

That's inhumane. I hate Ireland because Great Britain is better. If Ireland were a bug if stomp on it twist my foot, what do you say about that? That's what you're basically saying

Ireland has never commited ethnic cleansing unlike Great Britain and Israel. And to do that you'd have to go through millions of Irish.
And it really isn't.
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Postby Vaikneland » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:10 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Alyakia wrote:2009 saw 569 rockets with 11 injured and 0 dead
2010 saw 150 rockets with 25 injured and 1 dead
2011 saw 419 rockets with 81 injuries and 2 dead

iron dome was implemented in... 2011. oh my god, iron dome must have increased casualties!


Iron Dome confirmed for Hamas.

So then what argument are you trying to defend, it isn't Israel's fault that Hamas doesn't have good technology. They're just dick hurt that they don't have technology and they've screed themselves
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Postby Benian Republic » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:11 pm

Vaikneland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Iron Dome confirmed for Hamas.

So then what argument are you trying to defend, it isn't Israel's fault that Hamas doesn't have good technology. They're just dick hurt that they don't have technology and they've screed themselves

Hamas fights with whatever they have which is admirable.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:11 pm

Vaikneland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Iron Dome confirmed for Hamas.

So then what argument are you trying to defend, it isn't Israel's fault that Hamas doesn't have good technology. They're just dick hurt that they don't have technology and they've screed themselves


Lolwut? We're just pointing out how little you know about the situation.
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Postby Vaikneland » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:11 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Vaikneland wrote:That's inhumane. I hate Ireland because Great Britain is better. If Ireland were a bug if stomp on it twist my foot, what do you say about that? That's what you're basically saying

Ireland has never commited ethnic cleansing unlike Great Britain and Israel. And to do that you'd have to go through millions of Irish.
And it really isn't.

It'd be pretty easy to go through all of you guys because you are just drunks and have no significant military power.
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Postby Vaikneland » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vaikneland wrote:So then what argument are you trying to defend, it isn't Israel's fault that Hamas doesn't have good technology. They're just dick hurt that they don't have technology and they've screed themselves


Lolwut? We're just pointing out how little you know about the situation.

Yes because I didn't take a whole year long class based off of Israel and it's neighbours
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Postby Vaikneland » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vaikneland wrote:So then what argument are you trying to defend, it isn't Israel's fault that Hamas doesn't have good technology. They're just dick hurt that they don't have technology and they've screed themselves


Lolwut? We're just pointing out how little you know about the situation.

Also I did quote the wrong person, whoops
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Postby Benian Republic » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:13 pm

Vaikneland wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Ireland has never commited ethnic cleansing unlike Great Britain and Israel. And to do that you'd have to go through millions of Irish.
And it really isn't.

It'd be pretty easy to go through all of you guys because you are just drunks and have no significant military power.

That's highly offensive. And that's exactly what the British said and we beat them out of most of Ireland.

But we should go back to subject.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:14 pm

Vaikneland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Lolwut? We're just pointing out how little you know about the situation.

Yes because I didn't take a whole year long class based off of Israel and it's neighbours


if you think there were no missiles before iron dome and iron dome is what brought causalities down then your class is bad
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Postby Palakistan » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:14 pm

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Palakistan wrote:I am seriously considering reporting you. Anyone who supports the killing of people, and terrorism at a whole needs to be tracked down and thrown into prison.

Go ahead buddy.

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Postby Jagellion » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:14 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Vaikneland wrote:So then what argument are you trying to defend, it isn't Israel's fault that Hamas doesn't have good technology. They're just dick hurt that they don't have technology and they've screed themselves

Hamas fights with whatever they have which is admirable.

They are terrorists who kidnap and kill innocent Israelis, and get help from Israels neighbors
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:14 pm

Vaikneland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Lolwut? We're just pointing out how little you know about the situation.

Yes because I didn't take a whole year long class based off of Israel and it's neighbours


Well, your class fucking sucked.

There was a time once when I supported Israel, then I started learning more about the situation.
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Postby Palakistan » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:15 pm

Jagellion wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Hamas fights with whatever they have which is admirable.

They are terrorists who kidnap and kill innocent Israelis, and get help from Israels neighbors

Grand idea: Palestianians try a diplomatic approach like civilized people.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:15 pm

Palakistan wrote:
Jagellion wrote:They are terrorists who kidnap and kill innocent Israelis, and get help from Israels neighbors

Grand idea: Palestianians try a diplomatic approach like civilized people.


the west bank has tried that. israel is still fucking them. hmm.
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