Israel / Gaza / Hamas Mega-Thread

[Palakistan]

Israel is a strong supporter of and advocate for middle east peace. Israel recognizes the right of Palestinians to have their own state despite repeated attempts by Palestinians and other Arab nations to destroy Israel completely. These attempts started on the day after Israel became an independent nation, only three years after the fall of the German Nazis who had killed six million Jews in their own attempt at genocide.

Israel has a strong human rights record, despite the literally thousands of frivolous complaints lodged against it in the United Nations. The same can be said for very few Arab or Muslim nations, much less its current opponent Hamas, whose use of human shields to protect its war-making equipment is well-established.

israel has some serious human rights problems. the same can be said for very few muslim or arab race baiting who gives a fuck.

israel actually benefits massively from the current situation.

screw it, prove hamas uses shields. i'm serious. do it. also never forget that the IDF are still to this day fighting for their right to use human shields.

http://nypost.com/2014/08/05/hamas-manu ... an-israel/

[Benian Republic]

Yes they would! This is a war over resistance and fighting for their homeland and by the way Fatah is secular and also fighting Israel.

Why? If they're just like everyone else there, say perfectly like Jordan or Saudi Arabia, they wouldn't bomb then. And you can't say because they are in their territory. Jordan had owned the West Bank, which is the Center of Palestine, I don't see any Jordanian land being bombed by Fatah.

Jordan wasn't an apartheid government or commiting any crimes against humanity.

[Vaikneland]

Also, you seem to forget that Israel is only bombing them due to the terrorists. It's called defense.

Literally the exact same thing can be said for Palestine.

The ONLY reason that Israel is bombing Gaza is because they are being bombed by Hamas, who's reason to bomb Israel is to destroy them!

[Washington Resistance Army]

israel has some serious human rights problems. the same can be said for very few muslim or arab race baiting who gives a fuck.

israel actually benefits massively from the current situation.

screw it, prove hamas uses shields. i'm serious. do it. also never forget that the IDF are still to this day fighting for their right to use human shields.

http://nypost.com/2014/08/05/hamas-manu ... an-israel/

That doesn't have any proof at all.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Literally the exact same thing can be said for Palestine.

The ONLY reason that Israel is bombing Gaza is because they are being bombed by Hamas, who's reason to bomb Israel is to destroy them!

The ONLY reason Palestinians are bombing Israel is because they are being bombed by Israel, whose reason to bomb Palestine is to destroy them!

[Vaikneland]

Why? If they're just like everyone else there, say perfectly like Jordan or Saudi Arabia, they wouldn't bomb then. And you can't say because they are in their territory. Jordan had owned the West Bank, which is the Center of Palestine, I don't see any Jordanian land being bombed by Fatah.

Jordan wasn't an apartheid government or commiting any crimes against humanity.

Oh really? Look at the world census for Israel versus the world census for Jordan. Do it before you make a fool of yourself, which you've already have a few times.

[Vaikneland]

The ONLY reason that Israel is bombing Gaza is because they are being bombed by Hamas, who's reason to bomb Israel is to destroy them!

The ONLY reason Palestinians are bombing Israel is because they are being bombed by Israel, whose reason to bomb Palestine is to destroy them!

Palestinians aren't doing anything. It's Hamas who doesn't have any representation over Palestinians. They don't have a military, and I believe the first shot was made by Hamas. Why would Israel destroy Palestine if it's their own land?

[Alyakia]

israel has some serious human rights problems. the same can be said for very few muslim or arab race baiting who gives a fuck.

israel actually benefits massively from the current situation.

screw it, prove hamas uses shields. i'm serious. do it. also never forget that the IDF are still to this day fighting for their right to use human shields.

http://nypost.com/2014/08/05/hamas-manu ... an-israel/

most of that is just fact that does not advocate using human shields

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 333982.stm

[Benian Republic]

Jordan wasn't an apartheid government or commiting any crimes against humanity.

Oh really? Look at the world census for Israel versus the world census for Jordan. Do it before you make a fool of yourself, which you've already have a few times.

I'm not the Zionist.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Literally the exact same thing can be said for Palestine.

The ONLY reason that Israel is bombing Gaza is because they are being bombed by Hamas, who's reason to bomb Israel is to destroy them!

You do know even the Israeli government has said the rockets don't really do anything at all, right?

[Vaikneland]

Oh really? Look at the world census for Israel versus the world census for Jordan. Do it before you make a fool of yourself, which you've already have a few times.

I'm not the Zionist.

I'm not the terrorist.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The ONLY reason Palestinians are bombing Israel is because they are being bombed by Israel, whose reason to bomb Palestine is to destroy them!

Palestinians aren't doing anything. It's Hamas who doesn't have any representation over Palestinians. They don't have a military, and I believe the first shot was made by Hamas. Why would Israel destroy Palestine if it's their own land?

Hamas is not made up of mainly Palestinians?

Hamas fired said "first shot" to resist Israeli occupation.

It isn't Israel's fucking land.

[Palakistan]

http://nypost.com/2014/08/05/hamas-manu ... an-israel/

That doesn't have any proof at all.

You want me to drive to Palestine and go to their terror networks and watch them kill people to prove my point?

[Benian Republic]

The ONLY reason Palestinians are bombing Israel is because they are being bombed by Israel, whose reason to bomb Palestine is to destroy them!

Palestinians aren't doing anything. It's Hamas who doesn't have any representation over Palestinians. They don't have a military, and I believe the first shot was made by Hamas. Why would Israel destroy Palestine if it's their own land?

Hamas and Fatah have a ton of local support Hamas and Fatah and all the other little groups are their defense forces keeping the Israelis out of Gaza and trying to remove them from the West Bank.

[Vaikneland]

The ONLY reason that Israel is bombing Gaza is because they are being bombed by Hamas, who's reason to bomb Israel is to destroy them!

You do know even the Israeli government has said the rockets don't really do anything at all, right?

Iron dome, remember? Try put that up to defend themselves, it's called military tactics.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I'm not the Zionist.

I'm not the terrorist.

No one here is a fucking terrorist.

Not that terrorism is inherently evil. It's had its uses in history.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You want me to drive to Palestine and go to their terror networks and watch them kill people to prove my point?

You want me to drive to Gaza and watch Israel destroy hundreds of homes, hospitals and whatever else and kill thousands to prove mine?

[Benian Republic]

That doesn't have any proof at all.

You want me to drive to Palestine and go to their terror networks and watch them kill people to prove my point?

They kill traitors and informants.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You do know even the Israeli government has said the rockets don't really do anything at all, right?

Iron dome, remember? Try put that up to defend themselves, it's called military tactics.

No even the ones that get through, the Israeli government said they don't do shit because they're nothing more than shit powered fireworks. The exact words were they're just psychological and do almost no damage, if they're lucky they hit a tree.

[Vaikneland]

Palestinians aren't doing anything. It's Hamas who doesn't have any representation over Palestinians. They don't have a military, and I believe the first shot was made by Hamas. Why would Israel destroy Palestine if it's their own land?

Hamas and Fatah have a ton of local support Hamas and Fatah and all the other little groups are their defense forces keeping the Israelis out of Gaza and trying to remove them from the West Bank.

A ton of local support can be a few hundred. The IDF has the whole population under its security and without it, so many Israeli civilians would be killed because the iron done wouldn't exist without the IDF

[Alyakia]

You do know even the Israeli government has said the rockets don't really do anything at all, right?

Iron dome, remember? Try put that up to defend themselves, it's called military tactics.

no really. the IDF themselves said the rockets are more a psychological than physical threat before iron dome existed. iron dome makes them feel safe.

[Alyakia]

Hamas and Fatah have a ton of local support Hamas and Fatah and all the other little groups are their defense forces keeping the Israelis out of Gaza and trying to remove them from the West Bank.

A ton of local support can be a few hundred. The IDF has the whole population under its security and without it, so many Israeli civilians would be killed because the iron done wouldn't exist without the IDF

iron dome's effect on causalities is negligible. this is because casualties were negligible.

[Vaikneland]

Iron dome, remember? Try put that up to defend themselves, it's called military tactics.

No even the ones that get through, the Israeli government said they don't do shit because they're nothing more than shit powered fireworks. The exact words were they're just psychological and do almost no damage, if they're lucky they hit a tree.

That's not the Israelis fault, if there were no iron dome a ton of missiles can do a lot.

[Washington Resistance Army]

No even the ones that get through, the Israeli government said they don't do shit because they're nothing more than shit powered fireworks. The exact words were they're just psychological and do almost no damage, if they're lucky they hit a tree.

That's not the Israelis fault, if there were no iron dome a ton of missiles can do a lot.

They didn't before the Iron Dome existed, you're talking out of your ass.

[Benian Republic]

Hamas and Fatah have a ton of local support Hamas and Fatah and all the other little groups are their defense forces keeping the Israelis out of Gaza and trying to remove them from the West Bank.

A ton of local support can be a few hundred. The IDF has the whole population under its security and without it, so many Israeli civilians would be killed because the iron done wouldn't exist without the IDF

It's obviously Much higher. Did you remember how they protected that baby from those settlers or how they are so great at protecting Palestinians. I don't care about the safety of Israelis.