Israel / Gaza / Hamas Mega-Thread

[Washington Resistance Army]

Can you give me one reason I should support Israel?

Because you should respect the UN. Why would you support terrorists in Gaza?

Fuck the UN, at the best of times they're useless. Israel is the group going around killing thousands of innocents, not Hamas.

While I don't support Hamas I certainly can't support Israel.

[Benian Republic]

You need to pay heed to your own advice.

Israel took their chance and succeeded through it... The UN proposed a dual state both Palestine and Israel. The Palestinians wee greedy and denied as the Israel's took what was proposed to them. I don't see how the Israelis blew it

I would violently resist someone taking part of my homeland even if the UN felt bad and gave it to some people.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

So basically be quiet all of you pretentious Palestine supporters, you've had your chance and you blew it.

11/10 gr8 deb8 m8

You missed the part about military targets in the buildings....

First source there definitely were.

Then source me thinking killing a single militant is worth the lives of thousands of women and children.

[DBJ]

A country isn't like private property, you don't 'own it'. It was the most viable plan for a post-british palestine and the jews have a valid historical claim to the land.

Historical claims mean nothing, if they did Italy would suddenly become one of the largest nations on the planet.

When the jews were driven from their homeland, they had nowhere else to settle and remained homeless for centuries. Even worse they were persecuted wherever they went, usually preventing from fully integrating into new societies. Many of them have never lost their emotional attachment to their former homeland and felt like exiles for centuries.
If you don't see the difference to 'italy', I don't know what to say.

[Benian Republic]

Can you give me one reason I should support Israel?

Israel is a strong supporter of and advocate for middle east peace. Israel recognizes the right of Palestinians to have their own state despite repeated attempts by Palestinians and other Arab nations to destroy Israel completely. These attempts started on the day after Israel became an independent nation, only three years after the fall of the German Nazis who had killed six million Jews in their own attempt at genocide.

Israel has a strong human rights record, despite the literally thousands of frivolous complaints lodged against it in the United Nations. The same can be said for very few Arab or Muslim nations, much less its current opponent Hamas, whose use of human shields to protect its war-making equipment is well-established.

The UN has found no evidence of Hamas using Human shields and tons of evidence showing Israel using them.

[Alyakia]

Can you give me one reason I should support Israel?

Israel is a strong supporter of and advocate for middle east peace. Israel recognizes the right of Palestinians to have their own state despite repeated attempts by Palestinians and other Arab nations to destroy Israel completely. These attempts started on the day after Israel became an independent nation, only three years after the fall of the German Nazis who had killed six million Jews in their own attempt at genocide.

Israel has a strong human rights record, despite the literally thousands of frivolous complaints lodged against it in the United Nations. The same can be said for very few Arab or Muslim nations, much less its current opponent Hamas, whose use of human shields to protect its war-making equipment is well-established.

israel has some serious human rights problems. the same can be said for very few muslim or arab race baiting who gives a fuck.

israel actually benefits massively from the current situation.

screw it, prove hamas uses shields. i'm serious. do it. also never forget that the IDF are still to this day fighting for their right to use human shields.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Israel took their chance and succeeded through it... The UN proposed a dual state both Palestine and Israel. The Palestinians wee greedy and denied as the Israel's took what was proposed to them. I don't see how the Israelis blew it

The UN can fuck off. Palestine should have kept all the land. Because they'd possessed all the land.

Israel didn't blow it, they just did something really, really fucked.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Can you give me one reason I should support Israel?

Israel is a strong supporter of and advocate for middle east peace. Israel recognizes the right of Palestinians to have their own state despite repeated attempts by Palestinians and other Arab nations to destroy Israel completely. These attempts started on the day after Israel became an independent nation, only three years after the fall of the German Nazis who had killed six million Jews in their own attempt at genocide.

Israel has a strong human rights record, despite the literally thousands of frivolous complaints lodged against it in the United Nations. The same can be said for very few Arab or Muslim nations, much less its current opponent Hamas, whose use of human shields to protect its war-making equipment is well-established.

Supporter of peace in the Middle East? Is that why they have nukes, constantly violate other nations air space to bomb things and assassinate people from other countries?

And you wanna talk about human shields? I'll bet money you don't know that quite a few people in the Israeli military want to go back to being able to use human shields themselves.

[Vaikneland]

Fuck off with that genocide bullshit, there are two million Arab Israelis, more than the entire population of Gaza, and they are all considered equal to the Jews regardless of religion or culture. Meanwhile the Palestinians cheer whenever a Jew dies and the Hamas charter calls for the death of every Jew.

Their cry is dearth to Israel. Not death to Jews.

So you're saying they'd still despise Israel if they were a nation designated for Muslims? PFT okay good luck with that statement

[Alyakia]

and no we're not accepting a school building that had been abandoned for 3 months as human shields. we are not accepting firing from the road across from a school after school hours as using the school as a human shield. this shit will not fly here.

[Alyakia]

Their cry is dearth to Israel. Not death to Jews.

So you're saying they'd still despise Israel if they were a nation designated for Muslims? PFT okay good luck with that statement

maybe? iran and saudi arabia are great friends lol! ISIS are a barrel of laughs.

[Benian Republic]

Their cry is dearth to Israel. Not death to Jews.

So you're saying they'd still despise Israel if they were a nation designated for Muslims? PFT okay good luck with that statement

Yes they would! This is a war over resistance and fighting for their homeland and by the way Fatah is secular and also fighting Israel.

[Cederland]

Oh and Hamas has protected non Muslims in the past.
https://adonis49.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/it-is-hamas-protecting-me-a-christian-woman-in-gaza/
http://www.haaretz.com/news/hamas-leader-vows-to-protect-christian-community-in-gaza-1.179069
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/874-michel-sabbah-qhamas-is-protecting-usq

Palestinians like Christians because they can get support from the Christian majority west by putting out hollow statements of support. Christians do not like Palestinians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_al-Zaatar_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karantina_massacre
And Palestinians do not like Christians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damour_massacre
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=3895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESRdfPrmm7o

[Washington Resistance Army]

Historical claims mean nothing, if they did Italy would suddenly become one of the largest nations on the planet.

When the jews were driven from their homeland, they had nowhere else to settle and remained homeless for centuries. Even worse they were persecuted wherever they went, usually preventing from fully integrating into new societies. Many of them have never lost their emotional attachment to their former homeland and felt like exiles for centuries.
If you don't see the difference to 'italy', I don't know what to say.

I don't give a shit about your feel good nonsense. If you support Israel existing on a historical basis do you also support Sumer, the Roman Empire, Native American nations etc etc being given all their land back? If you don't that's a hilarious double standard.

[Palakistan]

Because you should respect the UN. Why would you support terrorists in Gaza?

Fuck the UN, at the best of times they're useless. Israel is the group going around killing thousands of innocents, not Hamas.

While I don't support Hamas I certainly can't support Israel.

And Hamas is firing rockets into people's homes right? One of the only reasons civialian casualties in Israel are low is because of their technology, which intercepts up to 90% of the rockets fired into Israel from Gaza.

[Vaikneland]

Israel is a strong supporter of and advocate for middle east peace. Israel recognizes the right of Palestinians to have their own state despite repeated attempts by Palestinians and other Arab nations to destroy Israel completely. These attempts started on the day after Israel became an independent nation, only three years after the fall of the German Nazis who had killed six million Jews in their own attempt at genocide.

Israel has a strong human rights record, despite the literally thousands of frivolous complaints lodged against it in the United Nations. The same can be said for very few Arab or Muslim nations, much less its current opponent Hamas, whose use of human shields to protect its war-making equipment is well-established.

Supporter of peace in the Middle East? Is that why they have nukes, constantly violate other nations air space to bomb things and assassinate people from other countries?

And you wanna talk about human shields? I'll bet money you don't know that quite a few people in the Israeli military want to go back to being able to use human shields themselves.

Pakistan has nukes too. Gaza is owned by Israel, as it is recognized here in America, so for me, gaza is Israel. Also, you seem to forget that Israel is only bombing them due to the terrorists. It's called defense. Why would they bomb them if they weren't bimbo Israel? No terrorists, no violence... Then maybe they have a chance at being independent. Everything Palestinians do just hurts them and they unfortunately don't realize it. I'm not anti Palestine, I'm just very Pro-Israel

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Also, you seem to forget that Israel is only bombing them due to the terrorists. It's called defense.

Literally the exact same thing can be said for Palestine.

[Alyakia]

Fuck the UN, at the best of times they're useless. Israel is the group going around killing thousands of innocents, not Hamas.

While I don't support Hamas I certainly can't support Israel.

And Hamas is firing rockets into people's homes right? One of the only reasons civialian casualties in Israel are low is because of their technology, which intercepts up to 90% of the rockets fired into Israel from Gaza.

no it isn't. the casualties were still ow before iron dome even existed. the main cause is the fact that most of hamas rockets are complete and utter shit. you have already demonstrated yourself to either not know what you are talking about or to be so new to the conflict you have no perspective.

do you know what it's like to be saying the shit for years and years and years yet nothing ever changes

[Benian Republic]

Fuck the UN, at the best of times they're useless. Israel is the group going around killing thousands of innocents, not Hamas.

While I don't support Hamas I certainly can't support Israel.

And Hamas is firing rockets into people's homes right? One of the only reasons civialian casualties in Israel are low is because of their technology, which intercepts up to 90% of the rockets fired into Israel from Gaza.

Hamas fired rockets into illegal settlements mostly. And the reason their weaponry fails is because they're basically fireworks.

[Vaikneland]

So you're saying they'd still despise Israel if they were a nation designated for Muslims? PFT okay good luck with that statement

Yes they would! This is a war over resistance and fighting for their homeland and by the way Fatah is secular and also fighting Israel.

Why? If they're just like everyone else there, say perfectly like Jordan or Saudi Arabia, they wouldn't bomb then. And you can't say because they are in their territory. Jordan had owned the West Bank, which is the Center of Palestine, I don't see any Jordanian land being bombed by Fatah.

[Cederland]

Also, you seem to forget that Israel is only bombing them due to the terrorists. It's called defense.

Literally the exact same thing can be said for Palestine.

Not really, considering that Israel bombs locations from which qassams are fired, but Palestine fires indiscriminately into Israel, without specifically targeting missile silos or IDF bases.

[Benian Republic]

Supporter of peace in the Middle East? Is that why they have nukes, constantly violate other nations air space to bomb things and assassinate people from other countries?

And you wanna talk about human shields? I'll bet money you don't know that quite a few people in the Israeli military want to go back to being able to use human shields themselves.

Pakistan has nukes too. Gaza is owned by Israel, as it is recognized here in America, so for me, gaza is Israel. Also, you seem to forget that Israel is only bombing them due to the terrorists. It's called defense. Why would they bomb them if they weren't bimbo Israel? No terrorists, no violence... Then maybe they have a chance at being independent. Everything Palestinians do just hurts them and they unfortunately don't realize it. I'm not anti Palestine, I'm just very Pro-Israel

I posted a link of Israeli government figures supporting genocide against pestilence so that's a reason.

[Alyakia]

Yes they would! This is a war over resistance and fighting for their homeland and by the way Fatah is secular and also fighting Israel.

Why? If they're just like everyone else there, say perfectly like Jordan or Saudi Arabia, they wouldn't bomb then. And you can't say because they are in their territory. Jordan had owned the West Bank, which is the Center of Palestine, I don't see any Jordanian land being bombed by Fatah.

BLACK FUCKING SEPTEMBER

[Washington Resistance Army]

Supporter of peace in the Middle East? Is that why they have nukes, constantly violate other nations air space to bomb things and assassinate people from other countries?

And you wanna talk about human shields? I'll bet money you don't know that quite a few people in the Israeli military want to go back to being able to use human shields themselves.

Pakistan has nukes too. Gaza is owned by Israel, as it is recognized here in America, so for me, gaza is Israel. Also, you seem to forget that Israel is only bombing them due to the terrorists. It's called defense. Why would they bomb them if they weren't bimbo Israel? No terrorists, no violence... Then maybe they have a chance at being independent. Everything Palestinians do just hurts them and they unfortunately don't realize it. I'm not anti Palestine, I'm just very Pro-Israel

Pakistan isn't in the middle east first off, I know it might be shocking but just because they're dirty darkies doesn't mean they are. And no actually, carpet bombing highly populated areas isn't a good thing. But I actually care about innocents

Fuck the UN, at the best of times they're useless. Israel is the group going around killing thousands of innocents, not Hamas.

While I don't support Hamas I certainly can't support Israel.

And Hamas is firing rockets into people's homes right? One of the only reasons civialian casualties in Israel are low is because of their technology, which intercepts up to 90% of the rockets fired into Israel from Gaza.

Such WMD, much Hamas.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Literally the exact same thing can be said for Palestine.

Not really, considering that Israel bombs locations from which qassams are fired, but Palestine fires indiscriminately into Israel, without specifically targeting missile silos or IDF bases.

Their shit technology might have to do with that.

And I thought they focused on the obviously illegal settlements anyway.