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Postby Calimera II » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:00 pm

Alyakia wrote:
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Pathetic.
Hamas uses human shields and accept it.


it's not pathetic.

you can't actually prove the people were being used as human shields in that case. you just blurt out "human shield!!!" every time sometimes dies, even though you can't prove it in probably half of the cases. accept it, and only make claims you can actually prove.

you also don't seem to understand that "but they did it some other time!" is not actual evidence either and is not not enough to make up for your lack of evidence.

Doitsu-san wrote:Like I said, it's up to Hamas to prove that they did not have their mortar positions in civilian areas, and were not operating in civilian areas. It's automatically human shields if Israel has to bomb civilian areas because they see mortar rounds flying out of them.


it's up to israel to prove that their targets were legitimate. considering israel still has about 3,000 homes they've destroyed that they've yet to provide any evidence were being used for terrorism i am doubtful they will prove mortars were being fired from the places they hit.


"No evident." This really is pathetic. You cannot accept any evidence that is against Hamas, and you seem pretty heated about the fact that you are wrong in this case. That's why I am not going to debate with you anymore on this topic for a little time.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:04 pm

Roski wrote:
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it's not pathetic.

you can't actually prove the people were being used as human shields in that case. you just blurt out "human shield!!!" every time sometimes dies, even though you can't prove it in probably half of the cases. accept it, and only make claims you can actually prove.

you also don't seem to understand that "but they did it some other time!" is not actual evidence either and is not not enough to make up for your lack of evidence.



it's up to israel to prove that their targets were legitimate. considering israel still has about 3,000 homes they've destroyed that they've yet to provide any evidence were being used for terrorism i am doubtful they will prove mortars were being fired from the places they hit.


Bull.
Fucking.
Shit.
If anyone can use humans as shields and call the other one a civil rights violator, then you don't have any valid reason to continue debating anything.


he was calling me pathetic, not hamas.

Calimera II wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
it's not pathetic.

you can't actually prove the people were being used as human shields in that case. you just blurt out "human shield!!!" every time sometimes dies, even though you can't prove it in probably half of the cases. accept it, and only make claims you can actually prove.

you also don't seem to understand that "but they did it some other time!" is not actual evidence either and is not not enough to make up for your lack of evidence.



it's up to israel to prove that their targets were legitimate. considering israel still has about 3,000 homes they've destroyed that they've yet to provide any evidence were being used for terrorism i am doubtful they will prove mortars were being fired from the places they hit.


"No evident." This really is pathetic. You cannot accept any evidence that is against Hamas, and you seem pretty heated about the fact that you are wrong in this case. That's why I am not going to debate with you anymore on this topic for a little time.


it's not pathetic. what part of this do you not understand? you claimed that the people that died in case X were human shields. i asked you to prove it. you provided videos of case Y, Z and A. they do not prove that the people that died in case X were human shields. you have not provided ONE piece of evidence relevant to the claim you were asked to prove, that is, case X. this is not complicated.
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Postby Limborg » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:05 pm

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Homes, Hospitals, Schools, Factories, Government buildings, Police stations =/= Terrorist

Terrorists are using it as a place to hide themselves and their guns.

If a terrorist hides in ones of those places, does he suddenly become innocent? Of course not.


He won't, but bombing a hospital with lets say 10 innocents and 1 terrorist is just an act of terror on its own. That is just the same as targeting civillians and has nothing to do with fighting terrorism. It even creates terrorism.

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Postby Limborg » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:05 pm

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Homes, Hospitals, Schools, Factories, Government buildings, Police stations =/= Terrorist


Unless you are in the Gaza strip.


No.

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Postby Limborg » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:06 pm

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Why are you the one asking for a tour? You're the Palestinian authority here.


So, there is at least 4 operating terrorist units in Gaza.

And you expect Israel to walk in and shake hands with everyone?

NEWS FLASH: Oh wait. They tried. Several times.


When did they tried?

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Postby Calimera II » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:08 pm

Limborg wrote:
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So, there is at least 4 operating terrorist units in Gaza.

And you expect Israel to walk in and shake hands with everyone?

NEWS FLASH: Oh wait. They tried. Several times.


When did they tried?

I think he is talking about the Camp David Summit and when they gave Gaza ( 2005 ) to the Palestinians on order to bring peace.
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Postby Limborg » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:08 pm

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Do me a favor, do you think that they couldn't send humanitarian help to Gaza if they requested Israel to enter Gaza? I'll tell you more than that, Israel has no control of the Egypt-Gaza border, why doesn't humanitarian help come from there? And by the way, even if no other nation does that, It's not Israel's responsibility to give humanitarian help to its enemy, what other nation would do that?


The UN does humanitarian aid, and Israel agrees to cease-fires regularly so they can get in safely.


You're claiming that Israël is supporting the UN? would be very wierd since Israël breaks dozens of UN laws every single day.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:08 pm

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Couasia wrote:From an American, some of us think it's senseless violence. What is either side hoping to achieve? Neither side has a clear objective anymore, and it's led to deaths on both sides. There needs to be peace there, now.

This^. Both sides are needlessly firing at each other and it needs to stop. Invading Palestine is not a reasonable thing to do.

It's the only option left.

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Postby Limborg » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:10 pm

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Solaray wrote:If the Palestine people could somehow do away with Hamas, I think a lot of issues would go away.


If they could get all of the terrorists away, there wouldn't be a Palestinian population. :)


Ah, you're like that, good to know that its pointless to debate with you.

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Postby Limborg » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:13 pm

Calimera II wrote:
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When did they tried?

I think he is talking about the Camp David Summit and when they gave Gaza ( 2005 ) to the Palestinians on order to bring peace.


Never heard of it, you have a link to some information about it by any chance?

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Postby Unknown Unknownia » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:20 pm

Roski wrote:
Solaray wrote:If the Palestine people could somehow do away with Hamas, I think a lot of issues would go away.


If they could get all of the terrorists away, there wouldn't be a Palestinian population. :)

Thinking like this is why they happily bomb children.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:43 pm


Perhaps this will be the silver bullet to stop the attack. We can only hope...

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Postby Huntertopia » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:43 pm

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Kebab has been killing prisoners of war for years.

Yeah, but I highly doubt Israel is going to take this lightly.
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Postby Viritica » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:43 pm

So in case everyone here didn't already know 20 missiles were found under a UN school in Gaza. Placed there by Hamas.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-missiles-found-in-un-run-school-in-gaza/

Hamas's basic style is to hide missiles in civilian structures such as schools and hospitals. When Israel attacks Hamas cries "WAR CRIMES" to garner more support.

The difference between Israel and Hamas is that Israel uses it's missiles to protect it's people. Hamas uses it's people to protect it's missiles.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:49 pm

Viritica wrote:So in case everyone here didn't already know 20 missiles were found under a UN school in Gaza. Placed there by Hamas.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-missiles-found-in-un-run-school-in-gaza/

Hamas's basic style is to hide missiles in civilian structures such as schools and hospitals. When Israel attacks Hamas cries "WAR CRIMES" to garner more support.

The difference between Israel and Hamas is that Israel uses it's missiles to protect it's people. Hamas uses it's people to protect it's missiles.


The weapons were found in “the course of the regular inspection of its premises,” UNRWA said in a statement, adding that the school was vacant.

This incident was “the first of its kind in Gaza,” the organization said, adding that it “endangered civilians including staff and put at risk UNRWA’s vital mission to assist and protect Palestinian refugees in Gaza.”
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Postby Viritica » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:50 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Viritica wrote:So in case everyone here didn't already know 20 missiles were found under a UN school in Gaza. Placed there by Hamas.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-missiles-found-in-un-run-school-in-gaza/

Hamas's basic style is to hide missiles in civilian structures such as schools and hospitals. When Israel attacks Hamas cries "WAR CRIMES" to garner more support.

The difference between Israel and Hamas is that Israel uses it's missiles to protect it's people. Hamas uses it's people to protect it's missiles.


The weapons were found in “the course of the regular inspection of its premises,” UNRWA said in a statement, adding that the school was vacant.

This incident was “the first of its kind in Gaza,” the organization said, adding that it “endangered civilians including staff and put at risk UNRWA’s vital mission to assist and protect Palestinian refugees in Gaza.”

Your point?
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:52 pm

Merizoc wrote:

Perhaps this will be the silver bullet to stop the attack. We can only hope...

The Japanese killed lots of POWs. Nobody paused.

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Postby Talanzaar » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:52 pm

Roski wrote:
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Homes, Hospitals, Schools, Factories, Government buildings, Police stations =/= Terrorist


Unless you are in the Gaza strip.


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Postby Limborg » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:52 pm



Why ow shit? Its just the risk that the Israëli soldiers take, i don't know why it would be shit, its only a captured soldier, nothing that didn't happen before. Israël goes to war, and therefor it shouldn't complain when a soldier of them gets captured.

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Postby Viritica » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:54 pm

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Why ow shit? Its just the risk that the Israëli soldiers take, i don't know why it would be shit, its only a captured soldier, nothing that didn't happen before. Israël goes to war, and therefor it shouldn't complain when a soldier of them gets captured.

Why exactly do you use the "ë"? What is the point, precisely?
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Postby Limborg » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:56 pm

Viritica wrote:
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Why ow shit? Its just the risk that the Israëli soldiers take, i don't know why it would be shit, its only a captured soldier, nothing that didn't happen before. Israël goes to war, and therefor it shouldn't complain when a soldier of them gets captured.

Why exactly do you use the "ë"? What is the point, precisely?


In Dutch its Israël, with the ë.

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Postby Viritica » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:57 pm

Limborg wrote:
Viritica wrote:Why exactly do you use the "ë"? What is the point, precisely?


In Dutch its Israël, with the ë.

Ah.

Cool. You learn something new everyday.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:58 pm

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The weapons were found in “the course of the regular inspection of its premises,” UNRWA said in a statement, adding that the school was vacant.

This incident was “the first of its kind in Gaza,” the organization said, adding that it “endangered civilians including staff and put at risk UNRWA’s vital mission to assist and protect Palestinian refugees in Gaza.”

Your point?


That you were insinuating Hamas stocked the missiles there while class was in session with UN blessing?
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