Valkalan wrote:Christian and especially catholic doctrine promote selflessness, service for the less fortunate
Only very inconsistently and in an extremely limited manner.
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by 4years » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:10 pm
Valkalan wrote:Christian and especially catholic doctrine promote selflessness, service for the less fortunate

by East Cloudsdale » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:10 pm
Angleter wrote:He's saying, in jest, that his previous comments on the poor that some denounced as 'Communist' were simply reiterating 2000 year old Christian teaching, and that the Communists came to the same rhetoric in defence of the poor much later. So no, Francis is not a Communist, nor is he a "Communist sympathiser" (whatever that is).

by Neo Rome Republic » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:10 pm

by Dundee Derry » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:13 pm
New acardia wrote:All that I have to say is I am glad that I left the Catholic church for the Orthodox Church .
Because Rome was heading left way before this pope came along.

by Pandeeria » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:14 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

by Sklavinia » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:15 pm
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Sklavinia wrote:
Oh, so believing in something without proof makes you an idiot? Is that it? Because then I'm pretty sure that makes most people idiots, including many intellectuals. Humanity cannot nor must not rely on proof for everything, if we did, the world would be incredibly and drastically different. And not in a good way.
So rather than reserving judgement, on questions we have not yet answered, you rely on a book of primitive scribblings for the answers? Sees legit. Sarcasm

by Neo Rome Republic » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:16 pm
Sklavinia wrote:Estado Paulista wrote:
Exactly.
I don't get it...NEO Rome Republic wrote:So rather than reserving judgement, on questions we have not yet answered, you rely on a book of primitive scribblings for the answers? Sees legit. Sarcasm
Nice hypocrisy. You realize that by not believing in God, when you have no proof he does not exist, also means you believe without knowing, right?
Also, nice mix of opinion, aggression, hostility, and flamebait. Didn't work though, tough luck.
But there was no flame bait, just addressing what looked absurd.
by United Marxist Nations » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:16 pm
Sklavinia wrote:Estado Paulista wrote:
Exactly.
I don't get it...NEO Rome Republic wrote:So rather than reserving judgement, on questions we have not yet answered, you rely on a book of primitive scribblings for the answers? Sees legit. Sarcasm
Nice hypocrisy. You realize that by not believing in God, when you have no proof he does not exist, also means you believe without knowing, right?
Also, nice mix of opinion, aggression, hostility, and flamebait. Didn't work though, tough luck.
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.

by Pandeeria » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:17 pm
Sklavinia wrote:NEO Rome Republic wrote:So rather than reserving judgement, on questions we have not yet answered, you rely on a book of primitive scribblings for the answers? Sees legit. Sarcasm
Nice hypocrisy. You realize that by not believing in God, when you have no proof he does not exist, also means you believe without knowing, right?
Also, nice mix of opinion, aggression, hostility, and flamebait. Didn't work though, tough luck.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

by Angleter » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:18 pm
East Cloudsdale wrote:Angleter wrote:He's saying, in jest, that his previous comments on the poor that some denounced as 'Communist' were simply reiterating 2000 year old Christian teaching, and that the Communists came to the same rhetoric in defence of the poor much later. So no, Francis is not a Communist, nor is he a "Communist sympathiser" (whatever that is).
sym·pa·thiz·er
ˈsimpəˌTHīzər/ohsit
noun
noun: sympathiser
a person who agrees with or supports a sentiment or opinion.
"a Nazi sympathizer"
synonyms: supporter, backer, well-wisher, advocate, ally, partisan; More
a communist sympathiser is a person who suppoors tcommunist

by Sklavinia » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:20 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:Sklavinia wrote:
I don't get it...
Nice hypocrisy. You realize that by not believing in God, when you have no proof he does not exist, also means you believe without knowing, right?
Also, nice mix of opinion, aggression, hostility, and flamebait. Didn't work though, tough luck.
He doesn't believe there is no god, he just doesn't believe in a god, because there's no evidence to suggest he should.
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Sklavinia wrote:
I don't get it...
Nice hypocrisy. You realize that by not believing in God, when you have no proof he does not exist, also means you believe without knowing, right?
Also, nice mix of opinion, aggression, hostility, and flamebait. Didn't work though, tough luck.
If that's what you think, okay then.But there was no flame bait, just addressing what looked absurd to me.

by Geilinor » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:21 pm
Sklavinia wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:He doesn't believe there is no god, he just doesn't believe in a god, because there's no evidence to suggest he should.Pandeeria wrote:
That doesn't make sense.NEO Rome Republic wrote:If that's what you think, okay then.But there was no flame bait, just addressing what looked absurd to me.
There is no proof God exists.
There is no proof God does not exist.
Therefor, believing in either of these things is believing without proof.

by United Marxist Nations » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:21 pm
Sklavinia wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:He doesn't believe there is no god, he just doesn't believe in a god, because there's no evidence to suggest he should.Pandeeria wrote:
That doesn't make sense.NEO Rome Republic wrote:If that's what you think, okay then.But there was no flame bait, just addressing what looked absurd to me.
There is no proof God exists.
There is no proof God does not exist.
Therefor, believing in either of these things is believing without proof.
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.

by Pandeeria » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:22 pm
Sklavinia wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:He doesn't believe there is no god, he just doesn't believe in a god, because there's no evidence to suggest he should.Pandeeria wrote:
That doesn't make sense.NEO Rome Republic wrote:If that's what you think, okay then.But there was no flame bait, just addressing what looked absurd to me.
There is no proof God exists.
There is no proof God does not exist.
Therefor, believing in either of these things is believing without proof.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Post War America » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:25 pm
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.

by Neo Rome Republic » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:25 pm
Pandeeria wrote:Sklavinia wrote:
There is no proof God exists.
There is no proof God does not exist.
Therefor, believing in either of these things is believing without proof.
Logically speaking it makes more sense that a god does not exist. Parts of the bible and scripture are illogical or disproven, if makes more sense to not believe in a deity.

by Valkalan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:25 pm

by The Broken American States » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:27 pm
he's from argentina. that's in south america

by Pandeeria » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:28 pm
The Broken American States wrote:he's from argentina. that's in south america
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Are South Americans communist now?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

by Revanchism » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:29 pm
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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Excuse me, I believe that the proper term is Satanic-American.
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by Sklavinia » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:29 pm
Pandeeria wrote:Sklavinia wrote:
There is no proof God exists.
There is no proof God does not exist.
Therefor, believing in either of these things is believing without proof.
Logically speaking it makes more sense that a god does not exist. Parts of the bible and scripture are illogical or disproven, it makes more sense to not believe in a deity.

by Neo Rome Republic » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:31 pm
Sklavinia wrote:Geilinor wrote:Not believing that something exists is the default position because it has the least assumptions.
And thus, everyone believes in something they cannot prove.United Marxist Nations wrote:We don't believe that he does not exist, we just don't believe that he does.
That's the exact same thing. Do you even understand what you're saying?Pandeeria wrote:
Logically speaking it makes more sense that a god does not exist. Parts of the bible and scripture are illogical or disproven, it makes more sense to not believe in a deity.
That doesn't mean he doesn't exist, and that's also just your opinion. In my opinion, it makes no logical sense that God doesn't exist.

by Pandeeria » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:31 pm
Sklavinia wrote:Pandeeria wrote:
Logically speaking it makes more sense that a god does not exist. Parts of the bible and scripture are illogical or disproven, it makes more sense to not believe in a deity.
That doesn't mean he doesn't exist, and that's also just your opinion. In my opinion, it makes no logical sense that God doesn't exist.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

by Roski » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:33 pm

by Roski » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:34 pm
Sklavinia wrote:Geilinor wrote:Not believing that something exists is the default position because it has the least assumptions.
And thus, everyone believes in something they cannot prove.United Marxist Nations wrote:We don't believe that he does not exist, we just don't believe that he does.
That's the exact same thing. Do you even understand what you're saying?Pandeeria wrote:
Logically speaking it makes more sense that a god does not exist. Parts of the bible and scripture are illogical or disproven, it makes more sense to not believe in a deity.
That doesn't mean he doesn't exist, and that's also just your opinion. In my opinion, it makes no logical sense that God doesn't exist.
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