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Postby Estrain (Ancient) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:11 pm

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Viritica wrote:Something interesting I found. The woman known by the pseudonym 'Jane Roe' (Roe vs Wade) has turned pro-life.


She actually turned pro-life. Can you imagine being her daughter and thinking, my mom went all the way to the Supreme Court to try and kill me before I was born? Try to look at this issue from a personal point of view. Talking about fetuses using only scientific terms and never really giving them the unique human identity that they have makes abortion seem less bad than it really is.

Okay, it's a personal issue for rape survivors. It's a personal issue for people who didn't want to raise a child. Also, my mom said that she thought of aborting me. I told her that it would have been her choice to have done so. I wouldn't know the difference, obviously.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:11 pm

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Viritica wrote:I mean, if you want you can see the commercial for yourself.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_MUUvcvjEg

Nice dodge of me saying you cited the website that you did, and also the part where I said that your anecdote means absolutely nothing... But good thing you provided that youtube video.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norma_McCorvey#Social_and_political_causes
Dude... Get off your high horse. I am pro-choice so stop needlessly bitching. I was just citing something I found rather interesting. And she actually has turned pro-life.
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Postby Estrain (Ancient) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:12 pm

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Mavorpen wrote:Yeah, I'd rather they stop putting me on the same level as a fetus.

Slavery was perpetuated by the concept of legal personhood. Abortion is perpetuated by the concept of legal personhood.

How many times do I have to tell you to stop comparing things to slavery, dude?
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:12 pm

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Mavorpen wrote:Yeah, I'd rather they stop putting me on the same level as a fetus.

Slavery was perpetuated by the concept of legal personhood. Abortion is perpetuated by the concept of legal personhood.

I don't care about this straw man.

Stop placing me on the level as a fetus. I'm not equivalent to a fetus in any way shape or form.
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Postby Estrain (Ancient) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:12 pm

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Estrain wrote:Nice dodge of me saying you cited the website that you did, and also the part where I said that your anecdote means absolutely nothing... But good thing you provided that youtube video.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norma_McCorvey#Social_and_political_causes
Dude... Get off your high horse. I am pro-choice so stop needlessly bitching. I was just citing something I found rather interesting. And she actually has turned pro-life.

You hardly seemed pro-choice. But sorry, I guess.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:12 pm

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Here's another pro-life reasoning, this time a comic
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holy shit if you believe this in any way there is literally no hope for you


The political cartoon I just see it as an oddity. Might keep it if someday I plan on teaching current U.S. history at a University.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:13 pm

Estrain wrote:
Estope wrote:
She actually turned pro-life. Can you imagine being her daughter and thinking, my mom went all the way to the Supreme Court to try and kill me before I was born? Try to look at this issue from a personal point of view. Talking about fetuses using only scientific terms and never really giving them the unique human identity that they have makes abortion seem less bad than it really is.

Okay, it's a personal issue for rape survivors. It's a personal issue for people who didn't want to raise a child. Also, my mom said that she thought of aborting me. I told her that it would have been her choice to have done so. I wouldn't know the difference, obviously.

Same here, my mom told me she almost had an abortion but decided not to, and I still say she had to right to make that choice.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:13 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Slavery was perpetuated by the concept of legal personhood. Abortion is perpetuated by the concept of legal personhood.

I don't care about this straw man.

Stop placing me on the level as a fetus. I'm not equivalent to a fetus in any way shape or form.

Except that its a human being and you are also a human being.
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Postby Estrain (Ancient) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:13 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Estrain wrote:Okay, it's a personal issue for rape survivors. It's a personal issue for people who didn't want to raise a child. Also, my mom said that she thought of aborting me. I told her that it would have been her choice to have done so. I wouldn't know the difference, obviously.

Same here, my mom told me she almost had an abortion but decided not to, and I still say she had to right to make that choice.

Exactly, I wouldn't have known if she did?? So, duh.
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Postby UED » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:13 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:holy shit if you believe this in any way there is literally no hope for you


The political cartoon I just see it as an oddity. Might keep it if someday I plan on teaching current U.S. history at a University.


its pretty easy to find this stuff
You wanna teach history? (high fives!)
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Postby UED » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:14 pm

Attention Everyone!

The UED somehow got an issue about abortion during this topic (literally NS issue)
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Postby Vicious Debaters » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:14 pm

UED wrote:...this time a comic
(Image)


That looks like a toddler not a fetus. Seriously, a fetus does not look like that. I call bullshit.

If the comic had an actual picture of a fetus, everyone would be like "why the fuck is a black dude talking to a diseased fish-thing in heaven?"

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Postby Estrain (Ancient) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:14 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I don't care about this straw man.

Stop placing me on the level as a fetus. I'm not equivalent to a fetus in any way shape or form.

Except that its a human being and you are also a human being.

It's not though. We've told you that at least a hundred times throughout this entire conversation. Dude, you've lost. You'll always, lose. You're side will always lose. So.. Bye.
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Postby Evraim » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:14 pm

Estrain wrote:Okay, so like medically speaking fetuses are just not humans. They're just not.
Even if they were, doesn't matter, because bodily autonomy trumps their "life."

That's not what the Supreme Court decided. There are nuances.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:15 pm

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Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Same here, my mom told me she almost had an abortion but decided not to, and I still say she had to right to make that choice.

Exactly, I wouldn't have known if she did?? So, duh.

Like even I, as perfect and wonderful as I am, didn't have the right to use her body against her will
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Postby Estrain (Ancient) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:15 pm

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Estrain wrote:Okay, so like medically speaking fetuses are just not humans. They're just not.
Even if they were, doesn't matter, because bodily autonomy trumps their "life."

That's not what the Supreme Court decided. There are nuances.

I don't care about what institutional power has told me. Bodily autonomy trumps fetuses right to live or whatever nonsense.
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:16 pm

Wait so who won
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Postby Estrain (Ancient) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:16 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Estrain wrote:Exactly, I wouldn't have known if she did?? So, duh.

Like even I, as perfect and wonderful as I am, didn't have the right to use her body against her will

Exactly!
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Postby Other Thafoo » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:16 pm

Benian Republic wrote:Wait so who won

Me.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:16 pm

Vicious Debaters wrote:
UED wrote:...this time a comic
(Image)


That looks like a toddler not a fetus. Seriously, a fetus does not look like that. I call bullshit.

If the comic had an actual picture of a fetus, everyone would be like "why the fuck is a black dude talking to a diseased fish-thing in heaven?"

If my fetus is in heaven it legit looks like a weird half-forehead red gloop the size of a grape.
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Postby UED » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:16 pm

Benian Republic wrote:Wait so who won


In terms of numbers, skill, determination and evidence I say the pro-choice side won
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Postby Estrain (Ancient) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:16 pm


Do you want to link to an actual reputable website and not pro-life organizations who are notorious for lying and spreading misinformation, even suing for their right to do so?
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Postby Viritica » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:17 pm

Other Thafoo wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Wait so who won

Me.

Thafoo always wins, obviously.
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Viritica wrote:
Other Thafoo wrote:Me.

Thafoo always wins, obviously.

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