Discuss: Teens and drugs

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Make it a legal regulated industry. License distributors and impose heavy penalties on those who sell to minors. It worked with alcohol.

No it didn't. Alcohol usage is extremely popular, especially among minors. Legalization is the government issuing the thumbs up on drug use, and that could lead drugs to being as commonly used as alcohol is today.

Do you have any source for this (the italicized and underlined part)?

Alcohol usage is extremely popular, yes; I mean I even drink one or two shots of whisky daily. Does that mean all of a sudden I am a criminal and immoral person?

Also, almost everywhere in the South (where more stringent laws exist for alcohol) we let minors drink while accompanied by an adult. It's perfectly legal. I am not sure why you're getting yourself in a knot about it all of a sudden.

[Scomagia]

Terrible, really. Drug use, including marijuana, and underage drinking needs to be more strictly punished... especially among teenagers. We need more people reporting it when they see/suspect it, rather than apathy... and sometimes encouragement.

What's your problem with voluntary alteration of consciousness?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

For those who claim that legalized marijuana will make it more easily available to children....

In the mid-1980s, at the height of the drug war, I was able to purchase marijuana on my high school campus with some ease despite being underage. This was true despite the fact that marijuana use among teens had been dropping steadily. At no time did any dealer ask me for identification, or tell me that I looked too young to be buying it.

To purchase it from a dispensary in California, you have to show identification and a doctor's recommendation. In Colorado, you have to show identification. This actually makes it slightly more difficult (though by no means impossible) for a teen to buy marijuana if the black market has largely disappeared as a result of legalized cannabis.

[Kiruri]

For those who claim that legalized marijuana will make it more easily available to children....

In the mid-1980s, at the height of the drug war, I was able to purchase marijuana on my high school campus with some ease despite being underage. This was true despite the fact that marijuana use among teens had been dropping steadily. At no time did any dealer ask me for identification, or tell me that I looked too young to be buying it.

To purchase it from a dispensary in California, you have to show identification and a doctor's recommendation. In Colorado, you have to show identification. This actually makes it slightly more difficult (though by no means impossible) for a teen to buy marijuana if the black market has largely disappeared as a result of legalized cannabis.

Yep, this!

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Terrible, really. Drug use, including marijuana, and underage drinking needs to be more strictly punished... especially among teenagers. We need more people reporting it when they see/suspect it, rather than apathy... and sometimes encouragement.

Uhm no thanks I'd rather not be a snitch or raise a generation of snitches.

[Charlechaplinian]

let us all remember that drugs were originally made to prevent illness, not to get people high and die.

[Charlechaplinian]

let us all remember that drugs were originally made to prevent illness, not to get people high and die.

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let us all remember that drugs were originally made to prevent illness, not to get people high and die.

I wish I lived back in the 50's when you could buy benzedrine OTC. I would have written a great American novel and been famous.

[Scomagia]

Terrible, really. Drug use, including marijuana, and underage drinking needs to be more strictly punished... especially among teenagers. We need more people reporting it when they see/suspect it, rather than apathy... and sometimes encouragement.

Uhm no thanks I'd rather not be a snitch or raise a generation of snitches.

But without snitches, who will be getting stitches?

[Draica]

Then what is your solution for keeping drugs out of the hands of 14 year olds?

I'd rather let 14 year olds get drugs than give up my civil liberties. I'd rather a few 14 year olds overdose and die than give up my civil liberties (which some do and some would continue to even in your DARE dystopia). To me it's more utilitarian to not breed a populace so willing to allow their governments to invade their lives in any way imaginable; considering how many people were slain by their own governments throughout the course of the 20th century, I'd reckon there's still less people dying overall in a world where people reject totalitarian tactics like you propose.

You're a very loving, kind person.

[Draica]

No it didn't. Alcohol usage is extremely popular, especially among minors. Legalization is the government issuing the thumbs up on drug use, and that could lead drugs to being as commonly used as alcohol is today.

Do you have any source for this (the italicized and underlined part)?

Alcohol usage is extremely popular, yes; I mean I even drink one or two shots of whisky daily. Does that mean all of a sudden I am a criminal and immoral person?

Also, almost everywhere in the South (where more stringent laws exist for alcohol) we let minors drink while accompanied by an adult. It's perfectly legal. I am not sure why you're getting yourself in a knot about it all of a sudden.

Ah, now you're bragging about drinking. Personally, I don't favor putting a bunch of chemical nonsense in my body that, in large doses, can prompt hangover. I perfer water(which is the only thing I drink) which, if I drink an entire bottle, I won't have a hangover.

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I'd rather let 14 year olds get drugs than give up my civil liberties. I'd rather a few 14 year olds overdose and die than give up my civil liberties (which some do and some would continue to even in your DARE dystopia). To me it's more utilitarian to not breed a populace so willing to allow their governments to invade their lives in any way imaginable; considering how many people were slain by their own governments throughout the course of the 20th century, I'd reckon there's still less people dying overall in a world where people reject totalitarian tactics like you propose.

You're a very loving, kind person.

And you're a not-in-the-literal-sense-but-how-people-online-usually-use-the-word-these-days fascist.

Untimely deaths are tragic; but inevitable. As I said, even in your ideal little world, kids would overdose and die anyway. Probably more than they do now.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Do you have any source for this (the italicized and underlined part)?

Alcohol usage is extremely popular, yes; I mean I even drink one or two shots of whisky daily. Does that mean all of a sudden I am a criminal and immoral person?

Also, almost everywhere in the South (where more stringent laws exist for alcohol) we let minors drink while accompanied by an adult. It's perfectly legal. I am not sure why you're getting yourself in a knot about it all of a sudden.

Ah, now you're bragging about drinking. Personally, I don't favor putting a bunch of chemical nonsense in my body that, in large doses, can prompt hangover. I perfer water(which is the only thing I drink) which, if I drink an entire bottle, I won't have a hangover.

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

[Kiruri]

Ah, now you're bragging about drinking. Personally, I don't favor putting a bunch of chemical nonsense in my body that, in large doses, can prompt hangover. I perfer water(which is the only thing I drink) which, if I drink an entire bottle, I won't have a hangover.

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

People... dinking alcohol =/= instant drunk/alcoholism ¬¬

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People who brag about drug use are ridiculous.
People who brag about not using drugs are ridiculous.

Do no harm and do as thou wilt.

[Draica]

Ah, now you're bragging about drinking. Personally, I don't favor putting a bunch of chemical nonsense in my body that, in large doses, can prompt hangover. I perfer water(which is the only thing I drink) which, if I drink an entire bottle, I won't have a hangover.

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

People... dinking alcohol =/= instant drunk/alcoholism ¬¬

I am exactly implying that

I drink, but I am more of an occasional drinker; I drink once in a while and during meals usually.

[Other Thafoo]

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

He's two years over the legal age.

[Scomagia]

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

In later high-school and into College, you'll find quite a few "nerds" to be users of amphetamines and other stimulants.

[Kiruri]

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

........

And that's perfectly fine, for you.

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> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

You don't get to self-classify as a nerd cause you don't do drugs. I know lots of nerds who snort lots of Addy to play World of Warcraft for 72 hours straight.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

I'm a 24 year old adult, so nah.

And good for you, but just because you're a nerd doesn't mean the rest of us want to be like you.

[MERIZoC]

> Assuming I said it to brag
> Assuming I think drinking is something to be proud of and not something I particularly enjoy

If you don't like alcohol that's your thing. I know how to control myself and my drinking. I mean, I'm not an alcoholic, but I also know how to drink responsibly.

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

Okay. That's your right. You still shouldn't try to force your morality on other people with invasive drug tests.

[Other Thafoo]

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

I'm a 24 year old adult, so nah.

And good for you, but just because you're a nerd doesn't mean the rest of us want to be like you.

When the hell did you turn 24? I'm terrible with ages. D:

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Good for you, but inrl I stay away from underage drinkers, assuming you're underage. I don't hang out with people who smoke Marujiuana, do drugs or drink. I hang out with nerds like me.

He's two years over the legal age.

4, actually in my state