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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:42 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26)

"And God said unto Abraham: 'come forth, and receive immortality'. But Abraham came fifth, and received a toaster."

I can cite quotes too!

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Postby New Israel and Pan-America » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:42 pm

Nasal Bondage wrote:
New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Only human beings have souls.

First, define soul.
Second, prove that humans have souls.
Third, prove that other living things don't have souls.
Fourth, do all this without quoting the Bible.


A soul is the spiritual being within all humans that survives even if they die.
Humans have souls. 2 Corinthians 5:7

Humans have souls, animals don't.

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26, NIV)
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Postby Karlsreich » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:42 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
You can't worship nature, though, that's offensive to God.

Zoroastrians don't. We think all living things have a soul.
Because they're alive.


SPEAK IT, BRUTHUH!

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Postby Lordieth » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:42 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:This thread has now surpassed 1000 posts! Clear evidence that people are curious and want to discuss this matter.


Only because you've pulled all of the toilet roll off of the reel, doesn't mean what you've put on it is of any more value than what came before it.

People are arguing with you. There's no consensus here.
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Postby Pavlostani » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:42 pm

All this thread has done is make me want to become a Zoroastrian...
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Postby New Israel and Pan-America » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:42 pm

Merizoc wrote:
New Israel and Pan-America wrote:Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26)

"And God said unto Abraham: 'come forth, and receive immortality'. But Abraham came fifth, and received a toaster."

I can cite quotes too!


Not quite what it says.
The United States of America is a Judeo-Christian state. Deal with it.
On judicial overreach -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=302977
On the first amendment -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301422
On secularism -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301217
On creationism in public schools -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301516

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Postby Cyrisnia » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:43 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:First, define soul.
Second, prove that humans have souls.
Third, prove that other living things don't have souls.
Fourth, do all this without quoting the Bible.

Can I quote other religious books?

Go ahead man.
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Postby Pavlostani » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:43 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Merizoc wrote:"And God said unto Abraham: 'come forth, and receive immortality'. But Abraham came fifth, and received a toaster."

I can cite quotes too!


Not quite what it says.


Aye. It's called satire.
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Postby Ruridova » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:43 pm

Ruridova wrote:35It is not for God to have a son. Pure is God. When He decides, He simply says 'Be' , and it comes to be. 36And say to the People, Oh Prohpet, "God is surely our Lord. So, worship Him. This is the straight path. 37Then the groups among them fell into dispute. How evil is the fate of these disbelievers when they have to face the Great Day. 38How strong will their hearing be, and how strong their vision, the day they come to Us! But today the transgressors remain in clear error.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:43 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:First, define soul.
Second, prove that humans have souls.
Third, prove that other living things don't have souls.
Fourth, do all this without quoting the Bible.


A soul is the spiritual being within all humans that survives even if they die.
Humans have souls. 2 Corinthians 5:7

Humans have souls, animals don't.

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26, NIV)

...NO

ALL LIVING BEINGS have a Spirit.

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Image


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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:43 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:First, define soul.
Second, prove that humans have souls.
Third, prove that other living things don't have souls.
Fourth, do all this without quoting the Bible.


A soul is the spiritual being within all humans that survives even if they die.
Humans have souls. 2 Corinthians 5:7

Humans have souls, animals don't.

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26, NIV)

You heard the man. WITHOUT QUOTING THE BIBLE.
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Postby Lenciland » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:44 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:First, define soul.
Second, prove that humans have souls.
Third, prove that other living things don't have souls.
Fourth, do all this without quoting the Bible.


A soul is the spiritual being within all humans that survives even if they die.
Humans have souls. 2 Corinthians 5:7

Humans have souls, animals don't.

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26, NIV)

Doesn't God also say be a good steward of my creation? It's funny how some people take some verses but neglect others,
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Postby Murkwood » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:44 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:First, define soul.
Second, prove that humans have souls.
Third, prove that other living things don't have souls.
Fourth, do all this without quoting the Bible.

Can I quote other religious books?

Like the Avesta, perchance?

nd now we sacrifice to the Kine's soul, and to her created body, and we sacrifice to the souls of cattle who are fit to live (for us), and whose (we?) are, such as are the same to them.

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And we worship the souls of those beasts which are tame and broken in, and of wild herds, and the souls of the saints wherever they were born, both of men and of women, whose good consciences are conquering in the strife against the Daevas, or will conquer, or have conquered.

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And now we worship the Bountiful Immortals (all) the good, and both those male, and those female (by their names). The males among them do we worship, ever living, and ever helpful, who dwell beside the pious, and the females thus the same.

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As Thou, O Ahura Mazda! hast thought and spoken, as thou hast determined, and hast done these things (effecting) what is good, therefore do we offer to Thee, therefore do we ascribe to Thee our praises, and worship Thee, and bow ourselves before Thee; and therefore would we direct our prayers to Thee, Ahura! with confessions of our sin.

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And we thus draw near to Thee together with the good kinship of our kindred, with that of Righteousness the blessed, and the good law of thrift and energy and the good Piety, the ready mind (within Thy folk)!
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:44 pm

Draica wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:This thread makes me want to hurl.

Creationism belongs nowhere within a 500-mile radius of any school, public or private.


I believe in Creationism and I'm a high school student, problem?


Only for the future of this nation.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:44 pm

Draica wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:This thread makes me want to hurl.

Creationism belongs nowhere within a 500-mile radius of any school, public or private.


I believe in Creationism and I'm a high school student, problem?


Hmm. You are part of an organisation trying to kill billions of people for fun.. and you hang out in the vicinity of defenseless children.
Nope. No problem :)
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Postby Murbleflip » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:44 pm

Draica wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:This thread makes me want to hurl.

Creationism belongs nowhere within a 500-mile radius of any school, public or private.


I believe in Creationism and I'm a high school student, problem?

I believe he means institutionally in schools. As far as I'm aware, we're all fine with Creationists being in schools.

EDIT: Unless the guy above me is serious.
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Postby Nasal Bondage » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:45 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Nasal Bondage wrote:First, define soul.
Second, prove that humans have souls.
Third, prove that other living things don't have souls.
Fourth, do all this without quoting the Bible.


A soul is the spiritual being within all humans that survives even if they die.
Humans have souls. 2 Corinthians 5:7

Humans have souls, animals don't.

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26, NIV)

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Postby Murkwood » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:45 pm

Pavlostani wrote:All this thread has done is make me want to become a Zoroastrian...

Hey, me too! It's a pretty cool faith.
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Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby Karlsreich » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:45 pm

And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

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Postby New Israel and Pan-America » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:45 pm

Southern Babylonia wrote:
New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
A soul is the spiritual being within all humans that survives even if they die.
Humans have souls. 2 Corinthians 5:7

Humans have souls, animals don't.

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26, NIV)

You heard the man. WITHOUT QUOTING THE BIBLE.


2 Timothy 3:16 - All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
The United States of America is a Judeo-Christian state. Deal with it.
On judicial overreach -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=302977
On the first amendment -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301422
On secularism -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301217
On creationism in public schools -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301516

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Postby New Israel and Pan-America » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:45 pm

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.


Read the OP.
The United States of America is a Judeo-Christian state. Deal with it.
On judicial overreach -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=302977
On the first amendment -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301422
On secularism -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301217
On creationism in public schools -- viewtopic.php?f=20&t=301516

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Postby The Time Alliance » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:45 pm

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

:rofl:

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Postby Ruridova » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:46 pm

Southern Babylonia wrote:You heard the man. WITHOUT QUOTING THE BIBLE.

And when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [created] soul, then fall down to him in prostration. Sura al-Hijr, 29th aya. The Qur'an.


Technically not the Bible.
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Postby Pavlostani » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:46 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:
Southern Babylonia wrote:You heard the man. WITHOUT QUOTING THE BIBLE.


2 Timothy 3:16 - All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.


Dammit man, you had one job.
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