Non-Americans: Could you live in the United States?

[Frazers]

You seem to be a thoroughly pleasant person who is going to have a long and fruitful stay here.

And a rather clear example of precisely why there are so many negative views about Americans in general. Good job perpetuating the stereotype.

Looking past the tone of his post he does have a point (albeit one for another thread)

[Ainin]

>Sees you use 2nd Ammendment and completely blow it down....You must be a Liberal.

I like your logic.

In most of the Western world, gun control isn't an explicit left-right divide like in the US.

[Murkwood]

1). Guns in the constitution. Ah yes. The beloved 2nd Amendment. The gun loving culture many Americans espouse is something I just utterly revile, and cannot reconcile myself to accept, by living in a country where people are guaranteed the right to be able to easily kill each other in the name of self defense, due to the pervasive availability of guns. I know many Americans too revile US gun culture, but until the 2nd Amendment was itself amended or ideally removed (no chance in hell), I'd find this one of my biggest stumbling blocks.
2). Two party system. Two parties, different, yet the same. Both have been bought out by corporate interests and have done an equally terrible job in governing the state, which is trillions in debt and is often mired in political gridlock. One of my favoured sayings is the US is so free, they have one whole other party more than North Korea! (I know there are independents and other smaller parties, so take my "joke" with a grain of salt.)
3). "Backward views." Again, I know this applies to only some, but when a large percentage of Americans deny climate change (about 25%), wish to have Evolution discredited in schools in favour of Creationism (and I say this as a Christian myself) and oppose equal marriage opportunities for homosexuals, again, these are things that just make me cringe.
4). Health care. I am pleased to live in a country where healthcare is available for all, and I'm happy to pay the taxes for it, even if it does at times mean longer waiting periods.
5). Natural disasters. Pretty much every corner of the USA is affected or vulnerable to natural disasters, which happen on a fairly regular basis. The west has drought and earthquakes, the central states can be hammered by tornadoes, and the south and east are vulnerable to hurricanes and severe snow storms (the latter which we Canadians are very used to as well).
6). Death penalty. I am vehemently opposed to its use and implementation.
7). US reality TV programming blows.

1. Really? Well, don't try Iceland.
2. I don't see much wrong with this. If you are a right-winger, join the Republicans. If you aren't, join the Democrats. It makes things much easier than having a trillion different parties.
3. You must be talking about places like Texas. Sure, gay marriage isn't legal. But Texans make up for it by being the nicest God-dammed people you will ever meet! 99% don't care who the fuck you are, as long as you don't flaunt it.
4. Meh. Don't know how to respond to this.
5. Natural disasters strike all over the world, buddy.
6. I bet you oppose some of the U.Ks policies too, right? I bet you would disagree with some of the ones Harper implemented. Just because a country has laws you don't agree with, but won't affect you, doesn't mean you shouldn't consider moving here.
7. I agree with you on that. But we have more sports than you!

The US can be a pretty good place, actually. Most of the facts you here are baloney. We have a great healthcare, education, and internet compared to other parts of the world. We have hordes of immigrants clamoring to get in, and no one clamoring to get out. We also donate the most, privately and publicly. In short, USA! USA! USA!

[Murkwood]

Non-American here, and I do live in the US; have for nearly 5 years. Even (attempted) to serve in the army here. You lot are welcome.

God bless.

[Doomwood]

I hate the U.S, so I will never live in it.

[Frazers]

We have a great healthcare ...... compared to other parts of the world

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it seems Mr Shapiro should be sourcing his opinions :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/uk ... 42833.html

[Doomwood]

We have a great healthcare ...... compared to other parts of the world

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it seems Mr Shapiro should be sourcing his opinions :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/uk ... 42833.html

Don't worry, I also hate the UK.

[Murkwood]

We have a great healthcare ...... compared to other parts of the world

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it seems Mr Shapiro should be sourcing his opinions :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/uk ... 42833.html

Most of those polls are skewed.

http://www.nationalreview.com/critical- ... mas-p-mill
http://www.creators.com/opinion/john-st ... study.html

[Frazers]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it seems Mr Shapiro should be sourcing his opinions :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/uk ... 42833.html

Most of those polls are skewed.

http://www.nationalreview.com/critical- ... mas-p-mill
http://www.creators.com/opinion/john-st ... study.html

Neither of those are able to dispute the recent report. Did you read them or just post the first two results from a google search?

[Murkwood]

Most of those polls are skewed.

http://www.nationalreview.com/critical- ... mas-p-mill
http://www.creators.com/opinion/john-st ... study.html

Neither of those are able to dispute the recent report. Did you read them or just post the first two results from a google search?

I'm using the two reports as examples. I've never heard of this Mirror, Mirror thing, but it probably falls into the same credibility pitfalls as the others.

[MERIZoC]

Neither of those are able to dispute the recent report. Did you read them or just post the first two results from a google search?

I'm using the two reports as examples. I've never heard of this Mirror, Mirror thing, but it probably falls into the same credibility pitfalls as the others.

"Probably" is little more than guessing.

[Frazers]

Neither of those are able to dispute the recent report. Did you read them or just post the first two results from a google search?

I'm using the two reports as examples. I've never heard of this Mirror, Mirror thing, but it probably falls into the same credibility pitfalls as the others.

Soooooo you don't really know what you're talking about. Great. We can all ignore any further posts on the matter from yourself.

[Murkwood]

I'm using the two reports as examples. I've never heard of this Mirror, Mirror thing, but it probably falls into the same credibility pitfalls as the others.

"Probably" is little more than guessing.

It's an educated guess. From what I've seen of others, this looks to be rather similar.

[Frazers]

"Probably" is little more than guessing.

It's an educated guess. From what I've seen of others, this looks to be rather similar.

You're not fooling anyone. If you want to do a critical appraisal of the report go for it. Until then we can all agree you're guessing and praying no-one asks too much.

[Murkwood]

I'm using the two reports as examples. I've never heard of this Mirror, Mirror thing, but it probably falls into the same credibility pitfalls as the others.

Soooooo you don't really know what you're talking about. Great. We can all ignore any further posts on the matter from yourself.

How are you getting that? Major report A and B come to a conclusion, and they used bad methodology. Then, Major Report C comes around, with the same conclusion and a lot of the same methodology.

[Murkwood]

It's an educated guess. From what I've seen of others, this looks to be rather similar.

You're not fooling anyone. If you want to do a critical appraisal of the report go for it. Until then we can all agree you're guessing and praying no-one asks too much.

It says "cost" as one of it's measurements. This is much more likely to support Socialized medicine.

I could do more of this, but guess what? For sources, it uses the WHO survey and the Commonwealth Fund one. The ones that were debunked.

[Frazers]

I'm using the two reports as examples. I've never heard of this Mirror, Mirror thing, but it probably falls into the same credibility pitfalls as the others.

"Probably" is little more than guessing.

It also makes you wonder on what grounds he makes the "America has great healthcare compared to others" statement when he casts aside all reports on the matter as probably falling into the same credibility pitfalls.

[MERIZoC]

You're not fooling anyone. If you want to do a critical appraisal of the report go for it. Until then we can all agree you're guessing and praying no-one asks too much.

It says "cost" as one of it's measurements. This is much more likely to support Socialized medicine.

I could do more of this, but guess what? For sources, it uses the WHO survey and the Commonwealth Fund one. The ones that were debunked.

Why wouldn't cost be used? A good healthcare system not only has to have good healthcare, it has to be cost efficient. If that supports Socialized medicine, then maybe you're on the wrong side of that argument.

[Kiruri]

3. You must be talking about places like Texas. Sure, gay marriage isn't legal. But Texans make up for it by being the nicest God-dammed people you will ever meet! 99% don't care who the fuck you are, as long as you don't flaunt it.

Wrong... 110 % wrong. South Carolina/Georgia* FTW

We have hordes of immigrants clamoring to get in, and no one clamoring to get out. We also donate the most, privately and publicly. In short, USA! USA! USA!

[Murkwood]

3. You must be talking about places like Texas. Sure, gay marriage isn't legal. But Texans make up for it by being the nicest God-dammed people you will ever meet! 99% don't care who the fuck you are, as long as you don't flaunt it.

Wrong... 110 % wrong. South Carolina/Georgia* FTW

We have hordes of immigrants clamoring to get in, and no one clamoring to get out. We also donate the most, privately and publicly. In short, USA! USA! USA!

I'll admit, Georgians and South Carolinians are pretty damn nice.

[Ainin]

You're not fooling anyone. If you want to do a critical appraisal of the report go for it. Until then we can all agree you're guessing and praying no-one asks too much.

It says "cost" as one of it's measurements. This is much more likely to support Socialized medicine.

I could do more of this, but guess what? For sources, it uses the WHO survey and the Commonwealth Fund one. The ones that were debunked.

Debunked by unsourced editorials in obscure publications. Do you have a peer-reviewed paper with the same conclusions?

And cost is an important factor of healthcare, since it makes the difference in whether it's affordable for a large segment of the population or not. Also, using the McCarthyist term "socialised medicine" to refer to universal healthcare is really hurting your credibility.

[Murkwood]

It says "cost" as one of it's measurements. This is much more likely to support Socialized medicine.

I could do more of this, but guess what? For sources, it uses the WHO survey and the Commonwealth Fund one. The ones that were debunked.

Debunked by unsourced editorials in obscure publications. Do you have a peer-reviewed paper with the same conclusions?

And cost is an important factor of healthcare, since it makes the difference in whether it's affordable for a large segment of the population or not. Also, using the McCarthyist term "socialised medicine" to refer to universal healthcare is really hurting your credibility.

It's a legitimate term.

Socialized medicine is a term used to describe and discuss systems of universal health care—that is, medical and hospital care for all at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health care and subsidies derived from taxation

I don't see why you are calling it "McCarthyist". It was invented during the Truman presidency.

[Ifreann]

I imagine I could make do.

[Greater-London]

I could do it yes. However its not high on the list of places I'd like to live, probably my least favorite place in the Anglosphere.

[Frazers]

I imagine I could make do.

You're Irish. You could just live off the gifts bestowed upon you by the 30 million 'Irish' folk out there in exchange for a quick jig and a tall tale.