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Would/could you live in the US?

Yes! Where's my green card!
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25%
No! *clings to native passport*
134
47%
Eh, maybe. (Explain.)
53
18%
One ticket to Vulcan, please.
30
10%
 
Total votes : 288

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:53 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
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I perfer semi-autos. There was a story of a woman in Atlanta who was at home with her daughter as her husband was out working(she lived in a rich community) and this fucker broke in, she shot him 5 times with a handgun and he still survived, though he was pretty much out. IN the FACE. Imagine if there had been multiple intruders.


Yea, your bullets are made so that they don't do any damage (ball rounds that don't expand). If you want to do serious damage to someone and have them contort in pain expanding bullets are beast. However, they are illegal, so.

Hollow points are legal, in MI at least.
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Postby Aelbica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:54 pm

New haven america wrote:
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Now happy?

That was made in 2012, it's now 2014, we need a recent source please.


How isn't a two year old poll recent?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:54 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Yea, your bullets are made so that they don't do any damage (ball rounds that don't expand). If you want to do serious damage to someone and have them contort in pain expanding bullets are beast. However, they are illegal, so.

Hollow points are legal, in MI at least.


I'm not sure what the specific restriction is down here, but I'm pretty sure homeowners are barred from owning hollow points. I may be mistaken though.
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Postby Draica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:57 pm

Oh my mistake, appearently there is a community in Atlanta called Bankhead. It's not that bad, infact alot of the lowincome areas and projects were killed off. That has done good for the area.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:57 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Parhe wrote:I suppose, but living there isn't that bad, speaking as a homosexual non Christian of Asian descent. I've got more hate in some "liberal" states (namely Virginia and New Hampshire) for those than I have in Texas.

Really?


I can believe it.

NH has very few racial minorities, so some people there may be bad at dealing with them just due to ignorance. And although it is politically to the left of Texas, it can still be backward in its own way. In fact, it sometimes is purposely backward because it wants to set itself apart from the urban progressive types in Massachusetts.

Virginia isn't a liberal state. The area around DC is more liberal, but outside that, it is still the South.
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Postby Aelbica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:58 pm

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Alexanda wrote:How do you mean socially?



It's very liberal and the people are odd.


NH is more libertarian if anything. And by "odd" is that even more odd than the NSG social group? Or is it only odd if you're a person on NSG - which probably means the people normal.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:12 am

Libertarian California wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Really?


California has the largest number of neo-Nazi organizations.


It also has the largest population by a wide margin.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:14 am

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Fuck that, close 'em all.

Wouldn't trust people out here for shit.

I wouldn't recommend leaving your windows open or your doors unlocked in the United States, because people will rob you.


Depends where you live. As much as we've been ragging on NH, there are parts of it where leaving your door unlocked would probably not be an issue.
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Postby Benshir » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:16 am

Nope. Noppity nope nope nope.

Singapore's fine, thank you very much. Even petty crime is nearly non-existent. Instances of pickpocketing actually make it to the paper, and I've seen people actually posting ads for missing electronics.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:18 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:Be careful about leaving the windows open if you live in a major city and are on the ground floor. It's probably less common here than in South Africa, but people do sometimes climb in windows and grab stuff if they know nobody is home. I lost $100 that way and my cousin had a laptop stolen.


Yea even though violence is not AS common from what I understand, burglaries are more common.


This was in Boston and there are always going to be some issues with crime in a city that size.
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Postby Draica » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:18 am

Benshir wrote:Nope. Noppity nope nope nope.

Singapore's fine, thank you very much. Even petty crime is nearly non-existent. Instances of pickpocketing actually make it to the paper, and I've seen people actually posting ads for missing electronics.


Singapore is a place I'd love to visit and even live.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:20 am

Scholmeria wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:OP, you have valid reasons for not wanting to live in my country. But you really could have summed it up due to the fact that it's a cultural difference. The fact of the matter is, America is not Canada, and you are a Canadian who feels comfortable in a Canadian setting and surrounded by Canadian people. And you know what? I salute you, and your decision to not live in my country. Contrary to what some people may believe, America isn't for everyone, and that is a natural and healthy sentiment. Just as I would never live in Canada (unless I was forced to flee America due to a meteor strike or something), you wouldn't live here. While our countries are extremely similar in many ways, there are those key, intangible differences that are integral to national identity that separate us, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

To be fair, there is no cultural differnces between Canada and the US. They both based on protestant anglo-saxony.

What made the division between the two are the American revolutionary wars. Thoose who ancestors fought for the loyalists are modern-day Canadians. If Washingong have lost his war than Canada would be spreading acroos whole Northern America.


I agree that both of our nations are largely from Protestant Anglo-Saxon foundations. However, the differences come from the divergences since the American Revolution. We went through different experiences than Canada did. We never had a large French population. Canada never conquered its southwestern territory. Canada never had a nation-shattering civil war. Also, Canada remained under the British helm for much longer and is constitutionally rather different from us. Sure, we both use civil law (along with the rest of Anglosphere), but our brands of federalism are quite different and we are a republic, and Canada is a monarchy.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:22 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I wouldn't recommend leaving your windows open or your doors unlocked in the United States, because people will rob you.


Depends where you live. As much as we've been ragging on NH, there are parts of it where leaving your door unlocked would probably not be an issue.

Why would you ever leave your door unlocked in the first place? It's almost like asking to be robbed.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:24 am

Lalaki wrote:
Alyakia wrote:i could. i'm still not entirely convinced the american health system has been fixed to the point where i won't spend most of my life with financial problems, is designed in some areas to deny me treatment as much as possible and generally make my kryptonite for any insurer but i guess i could live for like, a day or something.


The US will have universal HC one day. It's a matter of when.

When it loses a war and is annexed.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:24 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Lalaki wrote:
The US will have universal HC one day. It's a matter of when.

When it loses a war and is annexed.

Which is highly unlikely.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:25 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Lalaki wrote:
The US will have universal HC one day. It's a matter of when.

When it loses a war and is annexed.

I for one, welcome my Guatemalan overlords.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:26 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:When it loses a war and is annexed.

I for one, welcome my Guatemalan overlords.

It's likely to be Russian overlords.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:26 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
Draica wrote:
That's why we have weapons to defend ourselves. I have a crossbow and some mace, and if someone's attempting to kill me in my own house, as a last resort I will use both of them to maximum effect until I can possibly paralyze the fucker attempting to harm me.

Problem?

I don't blame you. Seeing as the United States has the highest crime rates in the world, you have to defend yourself.


That really depends where in the US. Maine's crime rate is comparable to one of those European countries everyone cites as an example of how to run a proper criminal justice system.

He apparently lives in the South, but even there, I am not sure why he needs mace.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:26 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:When it loses a war and is annexed.

Which is highly unlikely.

The way the budget is going on Social Security and Medicare, it's possible in as little as 30 years.
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:27 am

I'm American and I hate it here, for a multitude of reasons. I'm moving to Europe or Australia in my 20s and won't look back.

I seriously don't understand the appeal of the US at this time. Maybe New England, sure, but otherwise...
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:28 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Which is highly unlikely.

The way the budget is going on Social Security and Medicare, it's possible in as little as 30 years.

That has nothing to do with the Defense budget, which is currently the U.S.'s priority.

Even still, an invasion of the United States mainland would be highly impractical. No nation would be able to occupy that much territory. There are also 300,000,000 guns in the United States, and many civilians own guns. On top of that, the U.S. has nuclear missiles.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:28 am

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:I for one, welcome my Guatemalan overlords.

It's likely to be Russian overlords.

Since when? Russia is dead.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:29 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The way the budget is going on Social Security and Medicare, it's possible in as little as 30 years.

That has nothing to do with the Defense budget, which is currently the U.S.'s priority.

Even still, an invasion of the United States mainland would be highly impractical. No nation would be able to occupy that much territory. There are also 300,000,000 guns in the United States, and many civilians own guns. On top of that, the U.S. has nuclear missiles.

Nukes prevent annexation.

Full stop.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:30 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The way the budget is going on Social Security and Medicare, it's possible in as little as 30 years.

That has nothing to do with the Defense budget, which is currently the U.S.'s priority.

Even still, an invasion of the United States mainland would be highly impractical. No nation would be able to occupy that much territory. There are also 300,000,000 guns in the United States, and many civilians own guns. On top of that, the U.S. has nuclear missiles.

Missiles mean nothing if there's no budget room for people to make sure they work otherwise it might just backfire and destroy a city in the US as if it were Hiroshima.
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Postby Solocon » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:30 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The way the budget is going on Social Security and Medicare, it's possible in as little as 30 years.

That has nothing to do with the Defense budget, which is currently the U.S.'s priority.

Even still, an invasion of the United States mainland would be highly impractical. No nation would be able to occupy that much territory. There are also 300,000,000 guns in the United States, and many civilians own guns. On top of that, the U.S. has nuclear missiles.

We also have laser weapons.

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