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Would/could you live in the US?

Yes! Where's my green card!
71
25%
No! *clings to native passport*
134
47%
Eh, maybe. (Explain.)
53
18%
One ticket to Vulcan, please.
30
10%
 
Total votes : 288

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:36 pm

I am an Australian and would never migrate to the US.
But first of all what you call "backward views" is a stupid reason not to , migrate to the US
Here is the reasons I would never migrate to the US:
A) Significantlynlower minimum wage and less worker's rights
B) Too cold
C) Too much crime
D) Drinking age 21 (I am 18)
E) Higher chance of war and terrorism
F) Too many shootings
G) People aren't as friendly
H) Lack of universal health care and substituted health care
I) Climate too cold in SOME places
J) Crowding (in MOST places)
K) GENERALLY more racism/classism
L) GENERALLY more poverty
M) Less regulations on food and medication
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Postby Draica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:36 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Draica wrote:
Multiple intruders....

The shotgun is effective against multiple people, especially at close range. Seeing as this is a home invasion, unless you are on the other side of the house, it's close range.


Semi-autos are more effective against multiple intruders. Again, home invasions are incredibly common. In the U.S. alone, 1 out of every 5 homes will be victimized by a violent home invasion or burglary.

Shotgun's not gonna' save you.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:37 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:I have a cheap sword.

I'm broke with no CCW, so I just gotta swing ma blade and flail.

Though surviving would make me a total badass.

You have a sword? Damn!

Old one from my uncle, made in pakistan, stainless steel, plastic grip of slipperiness, and a hilt of only 1.5 hands.

Would still make for a cool robbery though.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:37 pm

Draica wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The shotgun is effective against multiple people, especially at close range. Seeing as this is a home invasion, unless you are on the other side of the house, it's close range.


Semi-autos are more effective against multiple intruders. Again, home invasions are incredibly common. In the U.S. alone, 1 out of every 5 homes will be victimized by a violent home invasion or burglary.

Shotgun's not gonna' save you.


At this point, I think is worthy to ask "define multiple".
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Draica
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Postby Draica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:38 pm

Alexanda wrote:Is New Hampshire nice/ safe?



Nice? Socially, it's hell. Safe? According to crime statistics, it's safe.
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Allies: Pantorrum, Korgenstin, Zebraltar, Kiribati-Tarawa, Democratic Sabha. Idoa, Allaena, Lledia.
Enemies: Arkania 5, any communist nation, Drakorvanyia.
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The Draican-Arkanian war: On-going

The Waldensian-Draican-Kiribati Cold War: Won. Dissolution of Communist Government in Waldensia

The Draican-Die erworbenen Namen war: Draica successfully defended, retaliation called off.

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:38 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Draica wrote:
Semi-autos are more effective against multiple intruders. Again, home invasions are incredibly common. In the U.S. alone, 1 out of every 5 homes will be victimized by a violent home invasion or burglary.

Shotgun's not gonna' save you.


At this point, I think is worthy to ask "define multiple".

"1 in 5"?

Really?
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Draica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:39 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Draica wrote:
Semi-autos are more effective against multiple intruders. Again, home invasions are incredibly common. In the U.S. alone, 1 out of every 5 homes will be victimized by a violent home invasion or burglary.

Shotgun's not gonna' save you.


At this point, I think is worthy to ask "define multiple".


2-3. Typical home invasion crew.
Draica is a Federal Republic nation ran by conservatives and Libertarians! If you ever wanna rp a state visit, a war, a debate with one of my leaders or a conservative/libertarian philosopher, or just wanna tg me in general(I like TGs) drop me a TG!
Allies: Pantorrum, Korgenstin, Zebraltar, Kiribati-Tarawa, Democratic Sabha. Idoa, Allaena, Lledia.
Enemies: Arkania 5, any communist nation, Drakorvanyia.
Wars:

The Draican-Arkanian war: On-going

The Waldensian-Draican-Kiribati Cold War: Won. Dissolution of Communist Government in Waldensia

The Draican-Die erworbenen Namen war: Draica successfully defended, retaliation called off.

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Postby Alexanda » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:39 pm

Draica wrote:
Alexanda wrote:Is New Hampshire nice/ safe?



Nice? Socially, it's hell. Safe? According to crime statistics, it's safe.

How do you mean socially?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:39 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
At this point, I think is worthy to ask "define multiple".

"1 in 5"?

Really?


So that means what in terms of intruders? :p
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Allmann
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Postby Allmann » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:39 pm

New haven america wrote:
Allmann wrote:I'm Swedish, if I had to move to North America I would most likely pick Canada before the US, as I believe Canada is closer to what I am used to and believe in in a society.

If I had to move to the US I would probably choose to live in one of the northwestern states, Washington or Oregon as they seem to be the states closest to what I like.

As OP said, the two party system is really strange, along with the death penalty and anti gay marriage legislations that still remain in some states.

Well, 23 states legalized gay marriage, almost halfway there!


True, the USA as a whole is slowly getting there.
While I would probably not want to live in the US permanently I would like to visit someday.

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Draica
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Postby Draica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:40 pm

Alexanda wrote:
Draica wrote:

Nice? Socially, it's hell. Safe? According to crime statistics, it's safe.

How do you mean socially?



It's very liberal and the people are odd.
Draica is a Federal Republic nation ran by conservatives and Libertarians! If you ever wanna rp a state visit, a war, a debate with one of my leaders or a conservative/libertarian philosopher, or just wanna tg me in general(I like TGs) drop me a TG!
Allies: Pantorrum, Korgenstin, Zebraltar, Kiribati-Tarawa, Democratic Sabha. Idoa, Allaena, Lledia.
Enemies: Arkania 5, any communist nation, Drakorvanyia.
Wars:

The Draican-Arkanian war: On-going

The Waldensian-Draican-Kiribati Cold War: Won. Dissolution of Communist Government in Waldensia

The Draican-Die erworbenen Namen war: Draica successfully defended, retaliation called off.

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Postby Aeken » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:40 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:You have a sword? Damn!

Old one from my uncle, made in pakistan, stainless steel, plastic grip of slipperiness, and a hilt of only 1.5 hands.

Would still make for a cool robbery though.

Oddly, that reminds me of the samurai sword attack that happened in my city awhile back...

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Postby Smoya » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:40 pm

Australian Republic wrote:I am an Australian and would never migrate to the US.
But first of all what you call "backward views" is a stupid reason not to , migrate to the US
Here is the reasons I would never migrate to the US:
A) Significantlynlower minimum wage and less worker's rights
B) Too cold
C) Too much crime
D) Drinking age 21 (I am 18)
E) Higher chance of war and terrorism
F) Too many shootings
G) People aren't as friendly
H) Lack of universal health care and substituted health care
I) Climate too cold in SOME places
J) Crowding (in MOST places)
K) GENERALLY more racism/classism
L) GENERALLY more poverty
M) Less regulations on food and medication

1. Then move to the warm places.
2. Um, source? It yes has more crime than most industrialized nations, but "too much" is an exaggeration.
3. Um...silly reason.
4. Move to the suburbs.
5. Not as often as you probably think.
6. Stereotypes. Where have you been?
7. As I said, we will definitely get universal healthcare, it's just a matter when.
8. You already said this.
9. Move to the suburbs! Why is this a reason when their is a simple solution?
10. Unless you're in poverty, this isn't a huge issue.
11. Capitalism, my friend. It's not like there is a high chance you're going to die because of this.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:41 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:In the case of a drug gang or the SWAT team, you would need an assault rifle.

If you can get an assault rifle, you might as well go full hog and get an auto-shotty.

An automatic shotgun?

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:41 pm

Draica wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
At this point, I think is worthy to ask "define multiple".


2-3. Typical home invasion crew.


Shotgun and/or handgun are your best bets.

Shotguns are really intimidating. The problem with home invasion crews is that they know the tricks, but like a majority of Americans, they don't know what a shotgun can do so they feel intimidated.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:41 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:"1 in 5"?

Really?


So that means what in terms of intruders? :p

More of a reply to Draica...

Anyway, to answer, less than 4.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:42 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:If you can get an assault rifle, you might as well go full hog and get an auto-shotty.

An automatic shotgun?

Aye, if you're gonna get an illegal ass gun, you may as well get the best.
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Neo Art wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:44 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:If you can get an assault rifle, you might as well go full hog and get an auto-shotty.

An automatic shotgun?


I prefer one of these:

legal and intimidating on the discharge sound.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:45 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:An automatic shotgun?

Aye, if you're gonna get an illegal ass gun, you may as well get the best.


Indeed, legally though? Eh, rather not :p
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

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Postby Alexanda » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:45 pm

Draica wrote:
Alexanda wrote:How do you mean socially?



It's very liberal and the people are odd.

I was interested because I myself live in Hampshire, England.
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Postby Draica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:46 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Draica wrote:
2-3. Typical home invasion crew.


Shotgun and/or handgun are your best bets.

Shotguns are really intimidating. The problem with home invasion crews is that they know the tricks, but like a majority of Americans, they don't know what a shotgun can do so they feel intimidated.


I perfer semi-autos. There was a story of a woman in Atlanta who was at home with her daughter as her husband was out working(she lived in a rich community) and this fucker broke in, she shot him 5 times with a handgun and he still survived, though he was pretty much out. IN the FACE. Imagine if there had been multiple intruders.

Source:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1234400

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYl6vrzza78
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Allies: Pantorrum, Korgenstin, Zebraltar, Kiribati-Tarawa, Democratic Sabha. Idoa, Allaena, Lledia.
Enemies: Arkania 5, any communist nation, Drakorvanyia.
Wars:

The Draican-Arkanian war: On-going

The Waldensian-Draican-Kiribati Cold War: Won. Dissolution of Communist Government in Waldensia

The Draican-Die erworbenen Namen war: Draica successfully defended, retaliation called off.

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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:46 pm

Draica wrote:I'm still waiting for an answer, Libertarian california, what part of Atlanta is a warzone?


Bankhead?
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Postby Scholmeria » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:48 pm

Libertarian California wrote:OP, you have valid reasons for not wanting to live in my country. But you really could have summed it up due to the fact that it's a cultural difference. The fact of the matter is, America is not Canada, and you are a Canadian who feels comfortable in a Canadian setting and surrounded by Canadian people. And you know what? I salute you, and your decision to not live in my country. Contrary to what some people may believe, America isn't for everyone, and that is a natural and healthy sentiment. Just as I would never live in Canada (unless I was forced to flee America due to a meteor strike or something), you wouldn't live here. While our countries are extremely similar in many ways, there are those key, intangible differences that are integral to national identity that separate us, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

To be fair, there is no cultural differnces between Canada and the US. They both based on protestant anglo-saxony.

What made the division between the two are the American revolutionary wars. Thoose who ancestors fought for the loyalists are modern-day Canadians. If Washingong have lost his war than Canada would be spreading acroos whole Northern America.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:51 pm

Draica wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Shotgun and/or handgun are your best bets.

Shotguns are really intimidating. The problem with home invasion crews is that they know the tricks, but like a majority of Americans, they don't know what a shotgun can do so they feel intimidated.


I perfer semi-autos. There was a story of a woman in Atlanta who was at home with her daughter as her husband was out working(she lived in a rich community) and this fucker broke in, she shot him 5 times with a handgun and he still survived, though he was pretty much out. IN the FACE. Imagine if there had been multiple intruders.


Yea, your bullets are made so that they don't do any damage (ball rounds that don't expand). If you want to do serious damage to someone and have them contort in pain expanding bullets are beast. However, they are illegal, so.
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Postby Draica » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:51 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Draica wrote:I'm still waiting for an answer, Libertarian california, what part of Atlanta is a warzone?


Bankhead?


Bankhead? You mean buckhead, one of Atlanta's most richest suburbs, where people like Elton John haave luxurious Condos And where personalities like Oprah Winfrey and Freddy Murphey also have property? And where a slim minority of CNN anchors(Robin meade, Nancy grace, etc) own properties?

Hm, sounds like a very crime-ridden area to me..

:rofl:
Draica is a Federal Republic nation ran by conservatives and Libertarians! If you ever wanna rp a state visit, a war, a debate with one of my leaders or a conservative/libertarian philosopher, or just wanna tg me in general(I like TGs) drop me a TG!
Allies: Pantorrum, Korgenstin, Zebraltar, Kiribati-Tarawa, Democratic Sabha. Idoa, Allaena, Lledia.
Enemies: Arkania 5, any communist nation, Drakorvanyia.
Wars:

The Draican-Arkanian war: On-going

The Waldensian-Draican-Kiribati Cold War: Won. Dissolution of Communist Government in Waldensia

The Draican-Die erworbenen Namen war: Draica successfully defended, retaliation called off.

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