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Pennsylvania and California GOP Platforms

Postby Trollzilla » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:41 pm

While the Texas GOP is endorsing "gay therapy" the Pennsylvania GOP has voted to support the freedom to marry.


http://triblive.com/opinion/featuredcom ... z35EimCHeI

This is a step in the right direction and it shows that not all Republicans are in lock step with the fringe extremists.

The California GOP for its part has adapted the following statement in its 2012 platform:

The Republican Party is the party of equal opportunity. It is the Republican Party that abolished
slavery and stands for the right of all persons to succeed based on merit rather than non-merit
based considerations. We oppose quotas, set asides, or guaranteed equality of results. We
support laws prohibiting discrimination in employment and housing based on race, ethnicity,
nationality, sex, or religion.


We believe that public service is a trust -- one of the highest callings to which any
man or woman may aspire.


But then they have this:

We believe public
policy and education should not be exploited to present or teach homosexuality as an acceptable
"alternative" lifestyle. We oppose same-sex partner benefits, child custody, and adoption



http://www.cagop.org.php54-2.dfw1-2.web ... atform.pdf

The California GOP platform appears to be contradictory in my opinion where as the PA one is straight forward. But I guess it is because the California Republicans have to appease more people than the PA Republican Party does.


What is your opinion of this development?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:43 pm

Pennsylvania GOP can read the writing on the wall and the California GOP is still relying on a disgruntled voter base that approved Prop 8.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:47 pm

Incoming GOP shitstorm.
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Postby Silent Majority » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:48 pm

It will be interesting to see if alienating the social conservatives pays off for them.
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Postby New Israel and Pan-America » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:49 pm

I agree with the GOP platform. Seems good.

Maybe conservative America is having a resurgence.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:49 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:I agree with the GOP platform. Seems good.

Maybe conservative America is having a resurgence.

About as much as Tupac and Cobain.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:50 pm

New Israel and Pan-America wrote:I agree with the GOP platform. Seems good.

Maybe conservative America is having a resurgence.

I hope not.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:51 pm

Well at the least if Democrats don't score so well in PA, I can find some peace in knowing, the GOP won't be as insane here.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:52 pm

It's good to see that not all Republicans are as intolerant and conservative as the ones from Texas. The California ones will hopefully change their stance in the near future.
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Postby Elemental North » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:53 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Pennsylvania GOP can read the writing on the wall and the California GOP is still relying on a disgruntled voter base that approved Prop 8.


I could not have said it better myself. The Republican Party is dying. Like many of the old white people who support it. California is a solidly liberal state, and like much of the country, it is growing more so, and will stay that way. I have a theory as well. Perhaps the Republicans, realizing that they are about to see their last days, are starting to yell their true values at the tops of their lungs, attempting everything they can to change things in a "legacy-like" way, in the hopes that either, someone will carry on their principles when they're gone, or, that someone will right them down and they' and their principles will make it into a college lecture or a history book. They know they're dying, and like a cornered animal at a nest, they're doing everything they can to protect what they will leave behind.
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Postby Valcouria » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:57 pm

Frankly, as one of these conservative Republicans, I would rather go down fighting but morally sincere than compromise my beliefs and virtues for the sake of being considered politically correct.

Also, is it really any surprise that the Republican parties in these left-leaning states that have voted a Democrat for president since 1992 would be inclined to do something like this? It's just their leadership pandering incessantly as usual...which is rather common of politicians in this day and age. No morals, just votes...
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Postby Alivstan » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:00 pm

It's absurd that they even allow gay marriage in the first place. Sickening. Homosexuals should be rehabilitated.

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:00 pm

Alivstan wrote:It's absurd that they even allow gay marriage in the first place. Sickening. Homosexuals should be rehabilitated.

What's wrong with being gay? They shouldn't have to change just to please you.
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Postby Alivstan » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:01 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Alivstan wrote:It's absurd that they even allow gay marriage in the first place. Sickening. Homosexuals should be rehabilitated.

What's wrong with being gay? They shouldn't have to change just to please you.

It is my views and religious values.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:02 pm

Alivstan wrote:
Geilinor wrote:What's wrong with being gay? They shouldn't have to change just to please you.

It is my views and religious values.


Give more detail please.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:02 pm

Alivstan wrote:
Geilinor wrote:What's wrong with being gay? They shouldn't have to change just to please you.

It is my views and religious values.

Your religion is your personal matter. Keep it to yourself.
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Postby Alivstan » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:03 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Alivstan wrote:It is my views and religious values.

Your religion is your personal matter. Keep it to yourself.

I can tell the whole goddamn world that i am a Shi'a muslim.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:06 pm

Alivstan wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Your religion is your personal matter. Keep it to yourself.

I can tell the whole goddamn world that i am a Shi'a muslim.


And we can tell you no one gives a damn. At least the GOP keeps shooting itself in the foot.
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Postby Valcouria » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:06 pm

Alivstan wrote:
Geilinor wrote:What's wrong with being gay? They shouldn't have to change just to please you.

It is my views and religious values.

The scary thing is, that one day we will be the persecuted ones for holding such beliefs.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:07 pm


Nobody is persecuting you.
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Postby Alivstan » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Alivstan wrote:I can tell the whole goddamn world that i am a Shi'a muslim.


And we can tell you no one gives a damn. At least the GOP keeps shooting itself in the foot.

I knew a person like you would say that

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:08 pm

Alivstan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
And we can tell you no one gives a damn. At least the GOP keeps shooting itself in the foot.

I knew a person like you would say that


A person like me? What exactly is a person like me like?
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:08 pm

Alivstan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
And we can tell you no one gives a damn. At least the GOP keeps shooting itself in the foot.

I knew a person like you would say that

Attack the post, not the poster.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:09 pm

Wow. The California GOP looks to be in no hurry to end the Democratic supermajority in the state legislature.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:10 pm

Elemental North wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Pennsylvania GOP can read the writing on the wall and the California GOP is still relying on a disgruntled voter base that approved Prop 8.


I could not have said it better myself. The Republican Party is dying. Like many of the old white people who support it. California is a solidly liberal state, and like much of the country, it is growing more so, and will stay that way. I have a theory as well. Perhaps the Republicans, realizing that they are about to see their last days, are starting to yell their true values at the tops of their lungs, attempting everything they can to change things in a "legacy-like" way, in the hopes that either, someone will carry on their principles when they're gone, or, that someone will right them down and they' and their principles will make it into a college lecture or a history book. They know they're dying, and like a cornered animal at a nest, they're doing everything they can to protect what they will leave behind.

I don't think that they're dying so much as in recent times they've bet on a few ponies that are no longer coming in for them.

But with California they're emboldened a bit by some stuff that maybe isn't making national news as much. The Democrats ended up with a super majority in the state bodies which matters more in California because budget matters require a 2/3rds majority to vote, so it's pretty common that we can't even get a budget passed on time. Which means if you have a super majority shit can actually get done. But it also means if you're going to buy influence, there's only one group to go to.

And...well, it happened. Three different state elected officials, all Democrats, were busted for various forms of accepting bribes (and one of running guns in a very convoluted case), so that whole "abuse of power" thing in the coming elections has given them confidence. And, well, those cases are pretty straight up so it's not like people can go, "It's all manufactured" or anything. So they can hold the party line (along with, again, thinking that there is a disgruntled voter base that approved Prop 8 that are still angry that Brown didn't defend it) with not worrying about making their tent bigger.
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