It's called rubberneckin', baby.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

-snip-

I should probably have mentioned I'm not a native English speaker and Portuguese has no similar insult.

Also, it's not opposite sex. To say opposite sex is to imply that the sexes are mutually exclusive instead of extremes on a rather wide and complex continuum.

[Carbon based lifeforms]

You're being obnoxious.

Are being? The correct is plain "are".

There is a clear distinction in meaning between those two. If you're going to try being a smartass, make sure you're right. More importantly: does saying this make you less obnoxious?

No. It doesn't.

[Big Jim P]

Well, only in the South of Texas.

Here in Texas we have a curious demographic: towns like Brownsville and other small towns which are not metro areas are pretty conservative (or "red" counties). Dallas, Austin, Houston, El Paso and other metro areas/college towns are liberal by various degrees (they're "blue" counties predominantly). Dallas is certainly a bit more liberal than Austin, but not by a lot.

Liberals? They exist in Texas? Huh, who knew.

Ja. All the refugees from the northeast, no doubt.

[Trollzilla]

Yes.

Good that you gave up, then.

Yay, cisgender heterosexual men need to fear less for their bodily integrity when walking alone in public and you admit it! See? Feminism doesn't hurt.

When I thought I was cisgender hetero, I was never comfortable walking home. Not necessarily becase of women, but because the men would throw verbal abuse in my direction because I looked and walked like a girl. It was something I could not help.

Hearing someone walking behind me would always cause me to walk faster or brace myself for confrontation which I always went out of the way to avoid because I felt intimidated.

[Big Jim P]

Good that you gave up, then.

Yay, cisgender heterosexual men need to fear less for their bodily integrity when walking alone in public and you admit it! See? Feminism doesn't hurt.

When I thought I was cisgender hetero, I was never comfortable walking home. Not necessarily becase of women, but because the men would throw verbal abuse in my direction because I looked and walked like a girl. It was something I could not help.

Hearing someone walking behind me would always cause me to walk faster or brace myself for confrontation which I always went out of the way to avoid because I felt intimidated.

Should have carried a weapon.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Liberals? They exist in Texas? Huh, who knew.

Ja. All the refugees from the northeast, no doubt.

Poor Jim, you've missed quite a decade of stuff around here *pats shoulder*

[Trollzilla]

But have you ever heard such women referred to as creeps or have you only heard men being referred as creeps?

Does it make a difference?

Actually... yes it does. For it to not be a slur then it has to used in reference to both men and women who leer equally. But it is not.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I didn't. I implied (and later said) I didn't found indication of your claims, and thus asked you where exactly was the evidence pertinent to the debate.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/living/chris-brown-female-on-male-rape/

"I want people to understand that it's not about how physically strong you are," he says. "We [men] are conditioned to believe that we cannot be victimized in such a way."

That's interesting because this happens to be a debate about feeling threatened from the potential violent actions of complete strangers before you ever really meet them and allow them to be intimate to you in your life.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Are being? The correct is plain "are".

There is a clear distinction in meaning between those two. If you're going to try being a smartass, make sure you're right. More importantly: does saying this make you less obnoxious?

No. It doesn't.

I'm saying I am always obnoxious. I am obnoxious by definition. So obnoxious, I'm almost really indeed actually noxious!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Does it make a difference?

Actually... yes it does. For it to not be a slur then it has to used in reference to both men and women who leer equally. But it is not.

No, I mean, using the slur or not. Does it make a difference that the behavior is stupid and uncomfortable?

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

When I thought I was cisgender hetero

By men I mean physically average males above by their 20s or over.

[Trollzilla]

-snip-

I should probably have mentioned I'm not a native English speaker and Portuguese has no similar insult.

Also, it's not opposite sex. To say opposite sex is to imply that the sexes are mutually exclusive instead of extremes on a rather wide and complex continuum.

I do not speak Portuguese either. I am not sure how to explain it. But as you say, it does not refer to opposite sex.


Since I am not sure which post you were referring to I can only hope I responding to the right one.

[Viritica]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/living/chris-brown-female-on-male-rape/

"I want people to understand that it's not about how physically strong you are," he says. "We [men] are conditioned to believe that we cannot be victimized in such a way."

That's interesting because this happens to be a debate about feeling threatened from the potential violent actions of complete strangers before you ever really meet them and allow them to be intimate to you in your life.

Okay?

[Viritica]

Liberals? They exist in Texas? Huh, who knew.

Ja. All the refugees from the northeast, no doubt.

[Trollzilla]

When I thought I was cisgender hetero, I was never comfortable walking home. Not necessarily becase of women, but because the men would throw verbal abuse in my direction because I looked and walked like a girl. It was something I could not help.

Hearing someone walking behind me would always cause me to walk faster or brace myself for confrontation which I always went out of the way to avoid because I felt intimidated.

Should have carried a weapon.

As much as I support the second amendment and your right to carry one should you feel the need, I myself choose not to.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I do not speak Portuguese either. I am not sure how to explain it. But as you say, it does not refer to opposite sex.


Since I am not sure which post you were referring to I can only hope I responding to the right one.

The one where you explain about a friend of yours who wanted to become a woman in order to understand them.

And Portuguese got no insult like 'creep'. It is generally translated to terms that really convey as their true notions 'pervert', 'asshole', 'moron' or similar ones depending on context.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Okay?

You had no point to dispute because you just misinterpreted me.

[Trollzilla]

Actually... yes it does. For it to not be a slur then it has to used in reference to both men and women who leer equally. But it is not.

No, I mean, using the slur or not. Does it make a difference that the behavior is stupid and uncomfortable?

No. If you feel uncomfortable to the point of feeling threatened then the person you feel threatened by could be referred to by the term. My objection was to it being used exclusively toward men.

[Norstal]

My hyperbole meter went off-charts from this and crashed itself.

We never ever hear the word "creep" used to refer to women who stare. It is only used for guys who stare. That is what makes it a slur.

...I've heard it used against women. But that's besides the point. Women haven't paraded through their neighborhood wearing ghost costumes lynching men yet. It's disingenuous to compare it with the word "nigger."

[Ostroeuropa]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/living/chris-brown-female-on-male-rape/

"I want people to understand that it's not about how physically strong you are," he says. "We [men] are conditioned to believe that we cannot be victimized in such a way."

That's interesting because this happens to be a debate about feeling threatened from the potential violent actions of complete strangers before you ever really meet them and allow them to be intimate to you in your life.

see, this is the problem with fucking feminists.
What do you want exactly.
He just showed you that the reason men don't feel the same way is that they are typically conditioned out of it. They get raped and don't even think it's rape.
BUT
Women get raped and know it is, so they get to be acknowledged as victims.
It's the same with this staring nonsense. The reason women are visibly "victims" of this is because they havn't had it beaten out of them to shut up about it.
If every time women brought this up, we ruthlessly mocked them, maybe assaulted them kicked the shit into them, told them to stop being such babies when they complained about the beating, etc. Eventually they'd shut up, and then they'd be in exactly the same situation the males are.
That's what they want, right? Equality? You think the men are privileged, right? Because they don't complain about it?
They make me absolutely sick.

Oh the poor women who have to live in fear of being raped when someone looks at them funny.
Those dastardly men don't know what thats like, having been socially conditioned NOT TO FEAR being raped and to just accept it, but who instead have to fear their own fucking thoughts and feelings because if they show the slightest weakness they might be assaulted or mocked or something.
Such privilege.

And like I keep pointing out to them, the studies show that the majority of gender based shaming of males comes from females. So we're left with this situation.


Feminist: "Ok, so who's a rape victim!"
Female 1: "Me."
Female 2: "Me."
Male 1: "Me."
Female 3: "LOL FAGGOT! FAG! LOLOL! MAN UP YOU PUSSY! OMG!"
Male 2: "..."
Male 3: "..."
Female 4: "Me."

Feminist "See! We're obviously the bigger victim in all this! Wahhhhhh!"

It's absolutely disgusting. When people identify as a feminist to me, it's like a damn fucking trigger word.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

And like I keep pointing out to them, the studies show that the majority of gender based shaming of males comes from females.

Feel free to drop this in a radfem space yourself.

I would love to watch the shitstorm and counterbalance both your arguments and theirs.

[Ostroeuropa]

And like I keep pointing out to them, the studies show that the majority of gender based shaming of males comes from females.

Feel free to drop this in a radfem space yourself.

I would love to watch the shitstorm and counterbalance both your arguments and theirs.

Do it yourself.
http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archiv ... er/275322/

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Do it yourself.
http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archiv ... er/275322/

...being an MRA isn't in my interests?

Defending an anti-feminist friend would be, but surely not saying people do feminism wrong when I don't really understand their message.

[Ostroeuropa]

Do it yourself.
http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archiv ... er/275322/

...being an MRA isn't in my interests?

Defending an anti-feminist friend would be, but surely not saying people do feminism wrong when I don't really understand their message.

I'm not an MRA. I'm an anti-feminist gender abolitionist. Trust me, I give the MRA a load of shit too. Albeit more politely. I've yet to see any kind of acknowledgement that women are the source of modern gender problems from the feminist movement. Which makes their entire shenanigan just one long, drawn out, harrassment of males.

[Terra Sector Union]

With the kind of stuff like this, I believe the oppression of male persons will happen in the next 20 years and will be treated like second-class citizens. Don't let the Matriarchy take over.