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Postby Blazedtown » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:22 am

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And people wonder why my state has conceal carry. Not to thread jack. But if you really have to deal with that kind of fear in your life, a handgun might not be a bad idea.

I'm not that paranoid.

...also, considering that guns are easily used against the people trying to operate them (at least much easier than say, a fist with keys sticking out of it is) it's not necessarily helpful.


That's debatable but this isn't the place for it. But if it really came down to it and the worst would happen, would you rather have your attacker with a cut face or a hole in it?
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Postby Trollzilla » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:22 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Viritica wrote:Perhaps I'm just over generalizing people and I'm most likely gonna get a lot of hate for this... But...

If you're a guy and girls stare at you then no problem. You feel alpha as fuck. If you're a girl and some guys start staring at you then you think they're perverts.


I mean, I feel alpha if women stare at me and checks me out, sure. I'm sure women also feel attractive if men look at them in appreciation and check them out.

However, there's also women (and homosexual men) who just fucking stare at you like they want to fuck you right in the corner of the building and you're not even turned on or anything; and I think that's something everyone can agree that's pretty uncomfortable or even downright annoying.


But have you ever heard such women referred to as creeps or have you only heard men being referred as creeps?

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:26 am

Trollzilla wrote:Ok. I'll take that. But tell me. How often have you heard men referred to as creeps and how often have you heard women referred to as creeps?

I seriously didn't knew much of this slur till right now.

To me it was synonym with pervert.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:26 am

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Actually they are a tad conservative than us up here in Dallas. Not by a lot, mind, but still a bit more conservative.

Dallas is more liberal overall though and with better education system than Austin (although with the quality of the education in Texas, that's not saying a lot).


I thought Austin was the hipster oasis that all the liberals fled to from elsewhere in Texas...


Well, only in the South of Texas.

Here in Texas we have a curious demographic: towns like Brownsville and other small towns which are not metro areas are pretty conservative (or "red" counties). Dallas, Austin, Houston, El Paso and other metro areas/college towns are liberal by various degrees (they're "blue" counties predominantly). Dallas is certainly a bit more liberal than Austin, but not by a lot.
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Postby Trollzilla » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:27 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:Does anyone really need to live their live in fer like that?

Trans women without passability? Dunno about your area, but surely, here. People who are massively noticeable when it comes to other forms of gender dissidence, too.

I imagine it massively changes when your area got hate crime laws.


Actually it makes us uncomfortable if we are stared at for too long. But we understand that some people have never seen a transgender woman before.

It's part of the territory. We just hurry out of sight as quickly as possible because we can't afford to confront people.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:27 am

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Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:That's long. Where does it say femdom gangs round up random men in public and violate them?

Holy fuck, just take off your feminist glasses and read it.

I'm not willing to. tl;dr

Besides, it is about general male rape, not random rapes by strangers on the street stronger than you.
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Postby Viritica » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:27 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
I thought Austin was the hipster oasis that all the liberals fled to from elsewhere in Texas...


Well, only in the South of Texas.

Here in Texas we have a curious demographic: towns like Brownsville and other small towns which are not metro areas are pretty conservative (or "red" counties). Dallas, Austin, Houston, El Paso and other metro areas/college towns are liberal by various degrees (they're "blue" counties predominantly). Dallas is certainly a bit more liberal than Austin, but not by a lot.

Liberals? They exist in Texas? Huh, who knew. :p
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Postby Viritica » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:27 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Viritica wrote:Holy fuck, just take off your feminist glasses and read it.

I'm not willing to. tl;dr

Then you shall remain in blissful ignorance.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:29 am

Viritica wrote:They you shall remain in blissful ignorance.

Have you ever heard of a concept called burden of proof?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:29 am

Viritica wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well, only in the South of Texas.

Here in Texas we have a curious demographic: towns like Brownsville and other small towns which are not metro areas are pretty conservative (or "red" counties). Dallas, Austin, Houston, El Paso and other metro areas/college towns are liberal by various degrees (they're "blue" counties predominantly). Dallas is certainly a bit more liberal than Austin, but not by a lot.

Liberals? They exist in Texas? Huh, who knew. :p


Yes, people are scared as shit that Texas is about to become a "battleground" state :p meaning the Republicans won't have as much power here anymore and - on noes! - they'll have to start making an effort in winning presidential elections and whatnot.

It certainly is interesting. I want to stick around to see that much in my lifetime :lol:

But we digress.
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Postby Viritica » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:30 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Viritica wrote:They you shall remain in blissful ignorance.

Have you ever heard of a concept called burden of proof?

Yes.
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Postby Viritica » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:31 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Viritica wrote:Liberals? They exist in Texas? Huh, who knew. :p


Yes, people are scared as shit that Texas is about to become a "battleground" state :p meaning the Republicans won't have as much power here anymore and - on noes! - they'll have to start making an effort in winning presidential elections and whatnot.

It certainly is interesting. I want to stick around to see that much in my lifetime :lol:

Funny, I want to stick around and see the more socially liberal Republicans take over so they can start winning elections. ;)
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Postby Blazedtown » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:31 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Viritica wrote:They you shall remain in blissful ignorance.

Have you ever heard of a concept called burden of proof?


When you won't even read his sources its kinda hard to pull that card.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:31 am

Viritica wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Have you ever heard of a concept called burden of proof?

Yes.

Good that you gave up, then.

Yay, cisgender heterosexual men need to fear less for their bodily integrity when walking alone in public and you admit it! See? Feminism doesn't hurt. :p
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:32 am

Blazedtown wrote:When you won't even read his sources its kinda hard to pull that card.

I actually did speed reading, and didn't spot things that would help his claim.
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Postby Viritica » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:32 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Viritica wrote:Yes.

Good that you gave up, then.

Yay, cisgender heterosexual men need to fear less for their bodily integrity when walking alone in public and you admit it! See? Feminism doesn't hurt. :p

I honestly have no idea what you're even getting at right now.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:32 am

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
I mean, I feel alpha if women stare at me and checks me out, sure. I'm sure women also feel attractive if men look at them in appreciation and check them out.

However, there's also women (and homosexual men) who just fucking stare at you like they want to fuck you right in the corner of the building and you're not even turned on or anything; and I think that's something everyone can agree that's pretty uncomfortable or even downright annoying.


But have you ever heard such women referred to as creeps or have you only heard men being referred as creeps?


Does it make a difference?
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:32 am

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Dakini wrote:I'm not that paranoid.

...also, considering that guns are easily used against the people trying to operate them (at least much easier than say, a fist with keys sticking out of it is) it's not necessarily helpful.


That's debatable but this isn't the place for it. But if it really came down to it and the worst would happen, would you rather have your attacker with a cut face or a hole in it?

The one where I'm not killing another person.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:33 am

Viritica wrote:I honestly have no idea what you're even getting at right now.

It's not my fault you are tired and thus slow right now. :unsure:
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Postby Viritica » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:34 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Viritica wrote:I honestly have no idea what you're even getting at right now.

It's not my fault you are tired and thus slow right now. :unsure:

I gave you a source. You admitted you would not read it. Then you declare me wrong.

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Postby Carbon based lifeforms » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:36 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Viritica wrote:I honestly have no idea what you're even getting at right now.

It's not my fault you are tired and thus slow right now. :unsure:

You're being obnoxious. If you want to act like a spoiled child, you needn't do it here.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:37 am

Viritica wrote:You admitted you would not read it.

I didn't. I implied (and later said) I didn't found indication of your claims, and thus asked you where exactly was the evidence pertinent to the debate.
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Carbon based lifeforms wrote:You're being obnoxious.

Are being? The correct is plain "are". :p
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Postby Trollzilla » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:38 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Trollzilla wrote:Ok. I'll take that. But tell me. How often have you heard men referred to as creeps and how often have you heard women referred to as creeps?

I seriously didn't knew much of this slur till right now.

To me it was synonym with pervert.


It's because sometimes we are so caught up in an issue that we don't see it from the other side. But it is something we should be conscious of.

Remember my post from earlier about skimpily dressed women? My fears are a result from child hood bullying. But because I know that the fear is irrational but keeps recurring due to a former experience, I can use my mind to try and overcome it. Such that I don't always glare at them nor have I ever made negative remarks to them as I keep those to myself.

We should be controlling our fears not letting them control us. The minute we let fear take over, then fear wins.

I knew a friend who was a normal guy and all that. He was not exactly very sociable and had no social skills but he was quite curious.

A few times he was yelled at for simply looking in a woman's direction and occasionally threatened with physical violence. He withdrew further from society and then one day, because he could not figure out why women felt threatened simply by being stared at, he decided he was going to undergo transgender transition to become a woman so he could find out. Of course we had to talk him out of it and get him counseling instead because that is a very bad reason for wanting to transition. But he was wanting to see things the way women saw them.

Now I am saying you should go get your stuff altered to become the opposite sex but it does bring up a point that too often we blinded by our own perspectives. Sometimes we need to step into the other side's shoes to see things from their perspective for a better understanding.

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Postby Viritica » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:41 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Viritica wrote:You admitted you would not read it.

I didn't. I implied (and later said) I didn't found indication of your claims, and thus asked you where exactly was the evidence pertinent to the debate.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/living/chris-brown-female-on-male-rape/
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