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Degenerate Heart of HetRio
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:37 am

Portuguese.

We establish ourselves in the middle of nowhere and in the other side of the world so I'm sure we're everywhere you can think of.

But seriously now, Polish.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:00 am

For the record, here is a list of Eastern European languages by number of speakers, based on the numbers in Wikipedia (and including Russian, because you really should consider it - it's the only one of the group that would be useful in any way outside areas inhabited by native speakers):

1. Russian - 180,000,000 speakers
2. Polish - 40,000,000 speakers
3. Ukrainian - 37,000,000 speakers
4. Romanian - 28,000,000 speakers
5. Serbo-Croatian - 18,500,000 speakers
6. Hungarian - 14,000,000 speakers
7. Czech - 10,000,000 speakers
8. Bulgarian - 10,000,000 speakers
9. Belarusian - 9,000,000 speakers
10. Albanian - 7,400,000 speakers
11. Slovak - 5,000,000 speakers
12. Lithuanian - 3,200,000 speakers
13. Slovene - 2,500,000 speakers
14. Macedonian - 2,000,000 speakers
15. Latvian - 1,900,000 speakers
16. Estonian - 1,100,000 speakers
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:23 pm

Polish! Definately Polish!

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Postby Murkwood » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:27 pm

I'm gonna have to say Mandarin Chinese.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:31 pm

Something here makes me thing OP isn't actually interested in learning all these languages…
But to answer the question, Russian. I don't know why you wouldn't consider it. After that, Polish or Ukrainian.

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Postby Czechanada » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:50 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Czech, I mean it's a land locked country yet their hello is Ahoy!


Actually, it's ahoj.
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Postby Acroticus » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:56 pm

Merizoc wrote:Something here makes me thing OP isn't actually interested in learning all these languages…
But to answer the question, Russian. I don't know why you wouldn't consider it. After that, Polish or Ukrainian.


I am obviously not going to learn every language! But I just wanted to know what NS thinks about the languages, comparing them and their culture. I will be trying at least one of the languages from these threads, so it definitely does depend on what people say :p

I am leaning Russian as well, despite the fact that I took it out (the actual reason I removed Russian from the equation was to put a larger emphasis on learning for culture and travel purposes, rather than simply utility. Also, if you have Russian, it is just too easy :p )

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Postby Ainin » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:01 pm

Romanian. Romance languages best languages.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:09 pm

Learn Hunnic.
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Postby Calimera II » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:38 pm

Ukranian. That nation has lots of potential.

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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:42 pm

Calimera II wrote:Ukranian. That nation has lots of potential.

*for being a client state of Russia
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Postby Gezi Park » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:58 pm

Russian, I'd say.
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Postby Baghanathria » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:41 pm

If you want to curse and swear in ways you never imagined before, and you want people to not understand your delicious swearwords, I suggest Hungarian. Also, it sounds pretty much like Tolkien's Black Speech.

A kurva isten bassza meg.

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Postby Omorov-Nier » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:01 pm

Russian. I'm not really sure why you don't consider it really. You'll be able to talk wiith around 300 million people and travel to IMO the most beautiful country in the world. Not only that, but if you learn Russian, you'll be able to understand Ukrainian and Belarussian pretty well.
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Postby Arumdaum » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:19 am

Hungarian. It's the coolest.
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Postby Benshir » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:12 am

Polish!
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Postby Megyaroszag » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:31 am

Hungarian, my native language!
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Postby Greater Bosna (Ancient) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:31 am

Bosnian
*nods*
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Postby Baghanathria » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:36 am

Megyaroszag wrote:Hungarian, my native language!


Micsoda, a fellow hungarian? Adjisten, brother.
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Postby Baghanathria » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:37 am

Greater Bosna wrote:Bosnian
*nods*


Isn't Bosnian language basically the same as Serb and Croatian?
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Postby Greater Bosna (Ancient) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:38 am

Baghanathria wrote:
Greater Bosna wrote:Bosnian
*nods*


Isn't Bosnian language basically the same as Serb and Croatian?

Yeah
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:41 am

No love for Romany in this thread?

A quick check of language distribution demographics confirms that the region in question remains the language's primary core area.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:02 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:No love for Romany in this thread?

A quick check of language distribution demographics confirms that the region in question remains the language's primary core area.

Now thinking of it, Indo-Aryan languages and Balto-Slavic ones are similarly difficult so it shouldn't feel much more particularly foreign.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Ruthenorum » Sat May 28, 2016 9:06 pm

I would suggest learning one of the Eastern European languages, like Ukrainian or Belarusian. As a native Ukrainian speaker, I can fluentry speak Russian. Recently I have started reading in Belarusian and I'm starting making progress. Those three languages use a Cyrillic script which is a unique tool to be able to utilize, because then you can make sense out of other Slavic languages that use Cyrillic. I can read in Bulgarian and Serbian and able to understand them. With the Latin script and Slavic language combined it makes no sense. I understand Polish when somebody speaks it, but to read it is very hard and it takes time to understand words, which should be familiar to me already. Same with Czech. Also I heard songs in Bosnian, Serbian, Croatian languages and I was able to understand some words. One time I heard a conversation of two people and asked them what language they speak. It was either Slovak or Slovene, but i understood them well. So just learn one of them (Cyrillic alphabet!!!) and you will start understanding others.

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Postby Raventsvo » Sat May 28, 2016 9:22 pm

Ruthenorum wrote:I would suggest learning one of the Eastern European languages, like Ukrainian or Belarusian. As a native Ukrainian speaker, I can fluentry speak Russian. Recently I have started reading in Belarusian and I'm starting making progress. Those three languages use a Cyrillic script which is a unique tool to be able to utilize, because then you can make sense out of other Slavic languages that use Cyrillic. I can read in Bulgarian and Serbian and able to understand them. With the Latin script and Slavic language combined it makes no sense. I understand Polish when somebody speaks it, but to read it is very hard and it takes time to understand words, which should be familiar to me already. Same with Czech. Also I heard songs in Bosnian, Serbian, Croatian languages and I was able to understand some words. One time I heard a conversation of two people and asked them what language they speak. It was either Slovak or Slovene, but i understood them well. So just learn one of them (Cyrillic alphabet!!!) and you will start understanding others.

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But you're right, Cyrillic is great. I'm glad I took the time to learn it.
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