Is ''Hooters'' Degrading To Women?

[Camelza]

It amuses me how you deleted your post because you realised that salariat has been coined during the early 20th century.
And that Marx is not Russian.

No, it was because you told me not to reply here for any longer.

I didn't want to spam. However if you wish for me ton continue posting here, I shall?

I can presume whatever I want.
And no.

[Zottistan]

Of course it's degrading. Whether or not the waitresses were willingly employed doesn't alter the fact that they are there to provide a set of tits.

What's degrading about that? People like tits.

[Dakini]

How is it a lesser evil than working for a regular restaurant where they don't base hiring decisions on cup size?

Tips are split up amongst all employees at other restaurants

Untrue. That depends on the restaurant.

and if I am not mistaken the girls keep all the tips they earn at Hooter's.

They're also forced to buy pantyhose on the premises if they get a run in the middle of the shift and are often fired for having a bad hair day (nevermind that they're not even allowed to wear their hair in ponytails which really strikes me as unsanitary since they have to bring out food products).

I'll admit it isn't perfect,but it is much better the being a topless maid,stripper,porn star or prostitute. I said lesser of those evils.

But not necessarily better than being a waitress at a regular restaurant, which is more similar in terms of profession than being a topless maid, stripper, porn star or prostitute.

I mean a regular restaurant isn't evil unless it makes you work long hours with no over time and makes you wear those stupid buttons.Flare I believe they are called...

I think that as far as restaurants being terrible places to work goes, wearing "flare" is low on the list (also, does that even happen anymore?). And it can be argued that due to Hooter's strict appearance policies for their employees Hooters makes their employees put in about an hour of unpaid work per shift.

[Master Shake]

Of course it's degrading. Whether or not the waitresses were willingly employed doesn't alter the fact that they are there to provide a set of tits.

What's degrading about that? People like tits.

It could be worse.It could be a Red Light District.Those girls don't have any rights.

[Ardoki]

No, it was because you told me not to reply here for any longer.

I didn't want to spam. However if you wish for me ton continue posting here, I shall?

I can presume whatever I want.
And no.

Anyway, we use modern day terms currently when referring to past events or things.

For example we can call a mass murder of a specific group of people genocide, even if it happened before the creation of that word or concept.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Of course it's degrading. Whether or not the waitresses were willingly employed doesn't alter the fact that they are there to provide a set of tits.

What's degrading about that? People like tits.

I like tits. They're great. I also enjoy looking at tits while they bring me my food.

[Master Shake]

I think that as far as restaurants being terrible places to work goes, wearing "flare" is low on the list (also, does that even happen anymore?). And it can be argued that [url=http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2013/aug/15/hooters-workers-case-rages-in-san-diego-court-medi/]due to Hooter's strict appearance policies for their employees Hooters makes their employees put in about an hour of unpaid work per shift.

I haven't been to a Friday's or Chili's in almost 15 years so I don't know if it is still in practice...

My point with the other professions(stripper,topless maid prostitute)is that rape is more rampant in those professions.

[Camelza]

I can presume whatever I want.
And no.

Anyway, we use modern day terms currently when referring to past events or things.
For example we can call a mass murder of a specific group of people genocide, even if it happened before the creation of that word or concept.

You know that what you say now is correct, but proves your previous post wrong, right?
I claim that Marx also included the so-called modern term of salariat when he spoke of the working class, while you insist that since he never used the word he also never thought of the salariat as part of the working class.

Anyway, stop responding to me in this thread, please.

[Master Shake]

Anyway, we use modern day terms currently when referring to past events or things.
For example we can call a mass murder of a specific group of people genocide, even if it happened before the creation of that word or concept.

You know that what you say now is correct, but proves your previous post wrong, right?
I claim that Marx also included the so-called modern term of salariat when he spoke of the working class, while you insist that since he never used the word he also never thought of the salariat as part of the working class.

Anyway, stop responding to me in this thread, please.

I agree this discussion has ping ponged back and forth from Hooter's to Communism...

If you guys have an opinion about Hooter's then be my guest.

[Ardoki]

Anyway, we use modern day terms currently when referring to past events or things.
For example we can call a mass murder of a specific group of people genocide, even if it happened before the creation of that word or concept.

You know that what you say now is correct, but proves your previous post wrong, right?
I claim that Marx also included the so-called modern term of salariat when he spoke of the working class, while you insist that since he never used the word he also never thought of the salariat as part of the working class.

Anyway, stop responding to me in this thread, please.

Why don't you stop responding. I shan't let you have the last word! Anyway, we have been debating in telegrams, yet you keep replying here, that is why I have to respond.

[The Enclave Government]

As a man casually walks into the doors of a Hillview area Hooters he orders a typical Beer & Wings...His waiter is drop dead gorgeous and gets caught staring at a pair of CHICKen Breasts(Gotta keep it PG13)...she laughs and says ''you're not the only one'' she walks off giggling...
Women & Men are certainly divided...A interview had a group of hooters girls tell their side...all of them say that its a great place to work and that it is awfully exaggerated by married women and or conservatives...sooo if the Hooters girls love it then is it actually that bad???
Men love it but for obviously the wrong reasons(Me also being a man)But some don't...But back to the point, is it ultimately about tatas and 18 year old girls?
I think it's both...the food is very good and the women just entices me to go again...

No. It is empowering. Men have strength, women have bloobs. To be completely honest I think Women have to use their saxophoney eness to be powerful

[Zottistan]

What's degrading about that? People like tits.

It could be worse.It could be a Red Light District.Those girls don't have any rights.

They do have rights. Legally, anyway. And if those rights are being denied, it's only because of moralistic goody-two-shoes forcing the prostitution and stripping industries into the seedier parts of society, if not fully underground.

Speaking as a sheltered teen living in a one-whore town in rural Ireland, btw. I have no practical experience in this area.

[Dakini]

They don't get raped on the job. They get raped after work by their managers.

And I was sexually assaulted by a coworker while working at a normal restaurant.
Ban all restaurants!

Most restaurants don't make their employees sign a contract that indicates sexual harassment is part of their job.

[Dakini]

I haven't been to a Friday's or Chili's in almost 15 years so I don't know if it is still in practice...

My point with the other professions(stripper,topless maid prostitute)is that rape is more rampant in those professions.

Source.

Personally, I'd rather be a stripper than work at Hooters. At least strip clubs have rules against touching the strippers and bouncers who will throw people who break this rule out on their ass.

[Camelza]

And I was sexually assaulted by a coworker while working at a normal restaurant.
Ban all restaurants!

Most restaurants don't make their employees sign a contract that indicates sexual harassment is part of their job.

Hooters does this?

[Viinborg]

No, women are supposed to be attractive a look hot.

Sad sexism. XY ignorance, male insecurity, or both. Irrelevant comment.

[The Enclave Government]

The real question is...

Do men come to Hooters for the Women or the Food?

Chiles has better food (those natcho chips @ 2 for 20 fried chicken doh)

and Chiles has meh looking waiters.

Yet Hooters is well known.


USELESS FUN FACT: HOOTERS HAD A AIRPLANE COMPANY , HOOTERS AIR!

[Dakini]

As a man casually walks into the doors of a Hillview area Hooters he orders a typical Beer & Wings...His waiter is drop dead gorgeous and gets caught staring at a pair of CHICKen Breasts(Gotta keep it PG13)...she laughs and says ''you're not the only one'' she walks off giggling...
Women & Men are certainly divided...A interview had a group of hooters girls tell their side...all of them say that its a great place to work and that it is awfully exaggerated by married women and or conservatives...sooo if the Hooters girls love it then is it actually that bad???
Men love it but for obviously the wrong reasons(Me also being a man)But some don't...But back to the point, is it ultimately about tatas and 18 year old girls?
I think it's both...the food is very good and the women just entices me to go again...

No. It is empowering. Men have strength, women have bloobs. To be completely honest I think Women have to use their saxophoney eness to be powerful

Ah yes, the only way women can be empowered is by showing off their assets.

[The Enclave Government]

No. It is empowering. Men have strength, women have bloobs. To be completely honest I think Women have to use their saxophoney eness to be powerful

Ah yes, the only way women can be empowered is by showing off their assets.

I'm not that sexist. Women have other ways, but this is the stereotype.

[Dakini]

Most restaurants don't make their employees sign a contract that indicates sexual harassment is part of their job.

Hooters does this?

Yup.

[Keyboard Warriors]

Of course it's degrading. Whether or not the waitresses were willingly employed doesn't alter the fact that they are there to provide a set of tits.

What's degrading about that? People like tits.

What's degrading about being hired to be a walking, talking set of tits I wonder...

[Master Shake]

Well if Hilary is elected it probably would do wonders for the female ego.Imagine telling your daughter that she could grw up to be president one day.I recall twenty years ago as a boy that no girls thought this was possible.

Or maybe Hilary will shut down all Hooter's...eh only time will tell...

[Camelza]

Hooters does this?

Yup.

That's bad, but it is their choice.
Can't do something about it unless the managers breach the contract and go into further sexual harassment.

[Nazi Flower Power]

They don't get raped on the job. They get raped after work by their managers.

And I was sexually assaulted by a coworker while working at a normal restaurant.
Ban all restaurants!

Someone was saying in another thread that it's endemic in the restaurant industry in general. Probably because they know there are a lot of people working in restaurants that are desperate to keep their job, don't have a lot of other options, and don't have the money for legal fees.

[Avoxlia]

As a UK resident, the only Hooters restaurant is in Nottingham which fortunately is near me. There were Hooters restaurants in Bristol and Cardiff but they had been closed down due to local protests. However, no-one in my neck of the woods seems to have a problem with having a Hooters here.

As for being degrading to women, as a bloke I probably be a bit biased in my opinion and I couldn’t really say anything on the behalf of women. However, I will point out that establishments in my country such as Pubs, Clubs and Restaurants will always choose a good looking woman over anyone else to work for them so they could be eye candy for the punters, especially where the majority of customers are male. There is nothing really new about restaurants like Hooters in that sense.