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Is ''Hooters'' Degrading To Women?

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Total votes : 365

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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:35 am

Camelza wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Public control and ownership over the MoP.

Define public.

As in being owned and controlled by the people, whether directly, or through some form of organisation, such as the state, or a union.
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Ostroeuropa
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:35 am

Master Shake wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Some kind of authority who genuinely cares about the people and society. A person such as myself for example.


Damn dude.You have quite the ego...


Either that or he's a scam artist demanding we take the trouble of pool tables seriously so he can accumulate power and money.
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:36 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
Damn dude.You have quite the ego...


Either that or he's a scam artist demanding we take the trouble of pool tables seriously so he can accumulate power and money.

What? :blink:
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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:36 am

Master Shake wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Some kind of authority who genuinely cares about the people and society. A person such as myself for example.


Damn dude.You have quite the ego...

I'm perfect. :)

However I understand that you may believe differently, if so, do not reply to this. Otherwise it would be a personal insult.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:37 am

Ardoki wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Then who do you propose make them?

Some kind of authority who genuinely cares about the people and society. A person such as myself for example.


And just what qualifies you, or anyone else for that matter, to make these decisions for another adult?
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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:38 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Some kind of authority who genuinely cares about the people and society. A person such as myself for example.


And just what qualifies you, or anyone else for that matter, to make these decisions for another adult?

I'm a genius, plus I am very kind. If I was in charge, everything would be perfect.
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Cadonica
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Postby Cadonica » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:38 am

Ardoki wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
Damn dude.You have quite the ego...

I'm perfect. :)

However I understand that you may believe differently, if so, do not reply to this. Otherwise it would be a personal insult.

How can you be "Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67" when you're saying that people shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions?
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:39 am

Ardoki wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Either that or he's a scam artist demanding we take the trouble of pool tables seriously so he can accumulate power and money.

What? :blink:


Did we blow your mind?

Good now we are even.

Why should it be up to you and not women,in general,to decide their own destiny?

Why(even in a Communist nation) would you treat full grown woman like a little girl?

I'm sorry,but its just confusing to me at best...I may not be pro feminist,but women have a right to fulfill their desires in life.

What if someone told you that you couldn't be who you want to be?
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Postby Camelza » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:39 am

Ardoki wrote:
Camelza wrote:Define public.

As in being owned and controlled by the people, whether directly, or through some form of organisation, such as the state, or a union.

Directly is the only correct answer, cudos for you for having at least some sense on a subject other than sexual egalitarianism.
Ah, I almost forgot, it's the workers, not the public.

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Ostroeuropa
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:39 am

Ardoki wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
Damn dude.You have quite the ego...

I'm perfect. :)

However I understand that you may believe differently, if so, do not reply to this. Otherwise it would be a personal insult.


A statement of fact cannot be an insult. You aren't perfect. You may be average, but that's about as far as it goes.
...
And for someone like me who is perfect, average is contemptible.

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Ostro.MOV

There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Big Jim P
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:39 am

Ardoki wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
And just what qualifies you, or anyone else for that matter, to make these decisions for another adult?

I'm a genius, plus I am very kind. If I was in charge, everything would be perfect.


And now you reveal that you are full of it.

Thank you. You have been amusing for the last little bit. Perhaps someday I can return the favor.
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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:39 am

Cadonica wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'm perfect. :)

However I understand that you may believe differently, if so, do not reply to this. Otherwise it would be a personal insult.

How can you be "Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67" when you're saying that people shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions?

They are free to, as long as their decisions are correct and approved.

Plus that test was social conservatism versus social liberalism.
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Master Shake
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:40 am

Cadonica wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'm perfect. :)

However I understand that you may believe differently, if so, do not reply to this. Otherwise it would be a personal insult.

How can you be "Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67" when you're saying that people shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions?


He cheated on his political compass test!?

dumb dumb dun!
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:40 am

Ardoki wrote:
Camelza wrote:Where is it said that they are forced into this particular job? You presumed so, because to your utter-conservative mindset it is degrading for any human to have sex, dance etc for money even if she/he wishes to do so. Really, I myself argue about the payment gap between men and women, or the negative impact of gender roles, but what you support doesn't have to do with sexism, but more with a conservative moralistic societal tendency that considers sex to be a taboo.

How am I a conservative?

Just because I don't feel that women should be forced to sell their bodies to survive. They should be able to earn their wage without being raped.

I'm not sorry for disliking the rape of women, and I shall continue to hold my view of complete opposition to all forms of sexual assault.


Maybe my feeble Nazi brain just can't keep up with your fancy feminist logic, but I don't see how rape got into this.
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Big Jim P
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:40 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'm perfect. :)

However I understand that you may believe differently, if so, do not reply to this. Otherwise it would be a personal insult.


A statement of fact cannot be an insult. You aren't perfect. You may be average, but that's about as far as it goes.
...
And for someone like me who is perfect, average is contemptible.

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Nothing worse than the average pretender. *nod*
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Cadonica
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Postby Cadonica » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:41 am

Ardoki wrote:
Cadonica wrote:How can you be "Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67" when you're saying that people shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions?

They are free to, as long as their decisions are correct and approved.

Plus that test was social conservatism versus social liberalism.

Which means they are not truly free to make their own decisions.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:41 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'm a genius, plus I am very kind. If I was in charge, everything would be perfect.


And now you reveal that you are full of it.

Thank you. You have been amusing for the last little bit. Perhaps someday I can return the favor.


You're right. It's just not fun anymore.
I was having fun back when I thought we could see their worldview collapsing in front of their eyes. That little snap you can hear when they realize they are full of shit on a particular issue is what I argue for. I've been on the receiving end a few times and happy to oblige.
But it's clear this person isn't going to change their opinions.
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Ostro.MOV

There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:41 am

Camelza wrote:
Ardoki wrote:As in being owned and controlled by the people, whether directly, or through some form of organisation, such as the state, or a union.

Directly is the only correct answer, cudos for you for having at least some sense on a subject other than sexual egalitarianism.
Ah, I almost forgot, it's the workers, not the public.

In my opinion, the disabled and the sick etc should also be included in having control and ownership. They shall belong to all, not just the workers.
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Master Shake
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:42 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Ardoki wrote:How am I a conservative?

Just because I don't feel that women should be forced to sell their bodies to survive. They should be able to earn their wage without being raped.

I'm not sorry for disliking the rape of women, and I shall continue to hold my view of complete opposition to all forms of sexual assault.


Maybe my feeble Nazi brain just can't keep up with your fancy feminist logic, but I don't see how rape got into this.


He put up a smoke screen to confuse his enemies.

He must be a pokemon!?
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:42 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
And now you reveal that you are full of it.

Thank you. You have been amusing for the last little bit. Perhaps someday I can return the favor.


You're right. It's just not fun anymore.
I was having fun back when I thought we could see their worldview collapsing in front of their eyes. That little snap you can hear when they realize they are full of shit on a particular issue is what I argue for. I've been on the receiving end a few times and happy to oblige.
But it's clear this person isn't going to change their opinions.


Not many have the mental horsepower to do so. such is life.
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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:43 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'm perfect. :)

However I understand that you may believe differently, if so, do not reply to this. Otherwise it would be a personal insult.


A statement of fact cannot be an insult. You aren't perfect. You may be average, but that's about as far as it goes.
...
And for someone like me who is perfect, average is contemptible.

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You're not perfect, but you wish you were. :lol:
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Postby Camelza » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:43 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'm a genius, plus I am very kind. If I was in charge, everything would be perfect.


And now you reveal that you are full of it.

Thank you. You have been amusing for the last little bit. Perhaps someday I can return the favor.

hear, hear!

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Master Shake
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:44 am

Man he never answered my question...

Damn I'm bummed since he tricked me into some stupid debate on capitalism and communism in Nigeria...I must be a fool... :oops:
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:44 am

Camelza wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
And now you reveal that you are full of it.

Thank you. You have been amusing for the last little bit. Perhaps someday I can return the favor.

hear, hear!

Ardoki wrote:
Camelza wrote:Directly is the only correct answer, cudos for you for having at least some sense on a subject other than sexual egalitarianism.
Ah, I almost forgot, it's the workers, not the public.

In my opinion, the disabled and the sick etc should also be included in having control and ownership. They shall belong to all, not just the workers.
Greater Ardokian Empire | It is Ardoki's destiny to rule the whole world!
Unitary Parliamentary Constitutional Republic

Head of State: Grand Emperor Alistair Killian Moriarty
Head of Government: Grand Imperial Chancellor Kennedy Rowan Coleman
Legislature: Imperial Senate
Ruling Party: Imperial Progressive Party
Technology Level: MT (Primary) | PMT, FanT (Secondary)
Politics: Social Democrat
Religion: None
Personality Type: ENTP 3w4

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Master Shake
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:45 am

Ardoki wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
A statement of fact cannot be an insult. You aren't perfect. You may be average, but that's about as far as it goes.
...
And for someone like me who is perfect, average is contemptible.


You're not perfect, but you wish you were. :lol:


Answer my question genius!

Or you will never be perfect since you failed to prove your perfectness to us!

You can't even back up your logic,oh perfect one...answer my question!!!!!

AHHHH!!!
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Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15

I hate you all equally

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