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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:14 am

Lelouche wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote: the date of Christmas could merely be chosen because it would get attention.


in otherwords
Trolling

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True. But what else could they do ? Keep turning the other cheek ?
At some point one has to come to the conclusion that does not work. And be fair - one offensive sign vs thousand does not really make you the bad guy ;)
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Postby Lelouche » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:19 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Lelouche wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote: the date of Christmas could merely be chosen because it would get attention.


in otherwords
Trolling

/end thread


True. But what else could they do ? Keep turning the other cheek ?
At some point one has to come to the conclusion that does not work. And be fair - one offensive sign vs thousand does not really make you the bad guy ;)


If you have to go on the offensive, attack the individuals that hold those beliefs, instead of the entire group, who believes many different things.

My GF is a good church going christian girl, she has absolutely no problem with my lack of faith
My Grandmother is a Volunteer with the Salvation Army, not once has she ever denied social services to someone on the basis of faith, indeed she's never denied them on any basis.

Turning the other cheek is a Christian philosophy is it not?, simply because some people don't follow it, doesn't make it bad, it makes those individuals bad.
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Postby Hitchensland » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:23 am

This idiot says that its wrong to put up a sign that mocks anything, when in reality putting a nativity scene is mocking the constitution...
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:29 am

Hitchensland wrote:This idiot says that its wrong to put up a sign that mocks anything, when in reality putting a nativity scene is mocking the constitution...

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Postby TheRightWay » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:58 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
TheRightWay wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Missed the point, huh?

The other post (or puppet, I'm undecided) said "I would say the same of any religion" - and yet, menorahs and nativity scenes in the same public building at the same time are not being described in those same terms, even by that poster....

Also - of course - placing signs about religion, at Christmas, is not an attack on Christmas. That's the big flaw in the whole Christian propoganda war. It's an 'attack' on religion (if anything is being 'attacked') - focused on Christmas because that's when the most attention is focused on religion.


The difference is really intent ... this sign was intended as an attack, the other religious symbols that were up in the building at the same time as the nativity scene were not

I am still unsure why you are equating the two


You are assuming that the response was to the other symbols that were there at the same time, instead of a response to the general behaviour of christians throughout the year. To respond to the repeated insults of a whole year/decade/century/millenia with a single sign, the date of Christmas could merely be chosen because it would get attention.

I agree that the time choice and the choice to attack the Christmas holiday was chosen to draw attention, that fact that it was attention seeking was not detract from them choosing to attack Christmas to get that attention.

The fact that the sign creators admitted to the fact that they attacked christmas on purpose makes the argument moot anyways ... they took a pot shot at a holiday some idiot tried to do what he thought right and attack back and then a whole bunch of atheists cry "OMG oppression see!" The guy was not in the right to try to remove it don't get me wrong but I am not exactly going to make a big deal of some guy trying to remove a sign when the sign was designed to be inflamitory

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:01 am

Hitchensland wrote:This idiot says that its wrong to put up a sign that mocks anything, when in reality putting a nativity scene is mocking the constitution...


At least he wasn't flaming. Knock it off.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:16 pm

TheRightWay wrote:What do holidays of other religions that happen to co-inside in time with Christmas have to do with a sign put in place to attack it?


It wasn't.

The sign says nothing about Christmas. It doesn't even say anything (specifically) about Christians.

Why are you trying to impose your agenda?
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