United States Almost had Universal Health Care

[Seriong]

Healthcare paid by insurance is not Universal Healthcare.

It is if everyone has insurance and a basic level of coverage.

No, there is a difference between everyone having insurance, and Universal Healthcare the political term.

[Atlanticatia]

I think that a universal health care system generally must have some provision that no citizen may go uncovered. So if a person doesn't pay their health insurance premium (in a private system), the government picks it up regardless of circumstances.

[Geilinor]

It is if everyone has insurance and a basic level of coverage.

No, there is a difference between everyone having insurance, and Universal Healthcare the political term.

Why are you capitalizing Universal Healthcare? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care

Universal health care, sometimes referred to as universal health coverage, universal coverage, or universal care, usually refers to a health care system which provides health care and financial protection to all its citizens. It is organized around providing a specified package of benefits to all members of a society with the end goal of providing financial risk protection, improved access to health services, and improved health outcomes.[1] Universal health care is not a one-size-fits-all concept and does not imply coverage for all people for everything

Everyone having a basic level of insurance is a form of universal health care.

[Seriong]

No, there is a difference between everyone having insurance, and Universal Healthcare the political term.

Why are you capitalizing Universal Healthcare? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care

Universal health care, sometimes referred to as universal health coverage, universal coverage, or universal care, usually refers to a health care system which provides health care and financial protection to all its citizens. It is organized around providing a specified package of benefits to all members of a society with the end goal of providing financial risk protection, improved access to health services, and improved health outcomes.[1] Universal health care is not a one-size-fits-all concept and does not imply coverage for all people for everything

Everyone having a basic level of insurance is a form of universal health care.

No, even according to the quote you provide, a state wherein everyone has insurance isn't universal healthcare. A system that provides such to the entire population would.

[Sociobiology]

Why are you capitalizing Universal Healthcare? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care

Everyone having a basic level of insurance is a form of universal health care.

No, even according to the quote you provide, a state wherein everyone has insurance isn't universal healthcare. A system that provides such to the entire population would.

no thats called single payer, universal healthcare means everyone in the country is covered, regardless of how that is achieved.
Germany which has mandatory insurance for instance has universal healthcare, it does not have single payer.

[Geilinor]

Why are you capitalizing Universal Healthcare? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care

Everyone having a basic level of insurance is a form of universal health care.

No, even according to the quote you provide, a state wherein everyone has insurance isn't universal healthcare. A system that provides such to the entire population would.

A system that provides it or makes it available. If the choice is there and everyone can afford it, there would be no logical reason to reject it.

[Grenartia]

Silly Norstal, when the government messes one thing up it is proof that the government can never ever do anything right and we should all welcome our new anarchy-capitalist overlords.

No, no, "overlord" is a government position. They would be ... CEOs and company presidents. *nod*

So..., owners, masters, and overseers.

No, even according to the quote you provide, a state wherein everyone has insurance isn't universal healthcare. A system that provides such to the entire population would.

A system that provides it or makes it available. If the choice is there and everyone can afford it, there would be no logical reason to reject it.

Republican Jesus Reagan told me it was socialism. That's logic enough for me, I tell you what.

[Quew]

It would not matter what kind of health care a nation had if the doctors were only paid if there patients got better.
That is one big reason the health care in America is not as good as it should be Doctors get paid even if you die and they get paid more if they can keep you sick while feeding on your savings or the insurance/tax funded care in cases where you have 3rd party assistance.

[Greed and Death]

On November 19, 1945, only 7 months into his presidency, Harry S. Truman sent a Presidential message to the United States Congress proposing a new national health care program. In his message, Truman argued that the federal government should play a role in health care, saying "The health of American children, like their education, should be recognized as a definite public responsibility." One of the chief aims of President Truman's plan was to insure that all communities, regardless of their size or income level, had access to doctors and hospitals. President Truman emphasized the urgent need for such measures, asserting that "About 1,200 counties, 40 percent of the total in the country, with some 15,000,000 people, have either no local hospital, or none that meets even the minimum standards of national professional associations. "

President Truman's plan was to improve the state of health care in the United States by addressing five separate issues. The first issue was the lack of doctors, dentists, nurses, and other health professionals in many rural or otherwise lower-income areas of the United States. He saw that "the earning capacity of the people in some communities makes it difficult if not impossible for doctors who practice there to make a living." He proposed to attract doctors to the areas that needed them with federal funding. The second problem that Mr. Truman aimed to correct was the lack of quality hospitals in rural and lower-income counties. He proposed to provide government funds for the construction of new hospitals across the country. To insure only quality hospitals were built, the plan also called for the creation of national standards for hospitals and other health centers. Mr. Truman's third initiative was closely tied to the first two. It called for a board of doctors and public officials to be created. This board would create standards for hospitals and ensure that new hospitals met these standards. The board would also be responsible for directing federal funds into medical research.

The most controversial aspect of the plan was the proposed national health insurance plan. In his November 19, 1945 address, President Truman called for the creation of a national health insurance fund to be run by the federal government. This fund would be open to all Americans, but would remain optional. Participants would pay monthly fees into the plan, which would cover the cost of any and all medical expenses that arose in a time of need. The government would pay for the cost of services rendered by any doctor who chose to join the program. In addition, the insurance plan would give a cash balance to the policy holder to replace wages lost due to illness or injury.

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/anniversar ... rogram.htm

President Harry S. Truman proposed that we adopt a national program all the way back in 1945. Had Congress approved, we would be on the level of the rest of the industrial world. Instead they rejected, and we are struggling with our current system. I really wish this was adopted so that health insurance would be a non-issue.

But what say you?

It was optional so I would have approved.

[Atlanticatia]

I will just always fail to see why people think they're getting this great amount of choice from choosing from an array of a few private for-profit insurance companies..