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Postby Rostogovia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:38 pm

Aeternabilis wrote:
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If their culture demands the murder of sentient beings, than yes.

Should lions and tigers stop existing just because evolution demanded they only eat meat?


Thats different, they MUST eat meat to survive. We do not have to.
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Postby Keventle » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:38 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:You're not a carnivore.

Humans are omnivores.

I totally cleared that up later..read on my friend

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

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Well.. obviously pigs can't have human rights... they're not human. They should be granted pig rights, tho. They have the right to be tasty :3

I ate pig. I still eat pig. I will eat pig.
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Why can't pigs have human rights? In my opinion all sentient beings are people.

Because pigs have no use for marriage.
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Postby Lingang » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

Good thing I don't eat pork!
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Postby Herskerstad » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:And what legal body shall enforce this?


The UN, their the organization that usually handles genocide.


Good luck persuading the Arab factions of the UN to give pigs human rights in their nation.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Neither do crazy homeless people. 8)

But they are humans, and they speak human, so..

Fair enough, though some seem so drunk I can never understand a word they say.
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Postby Keventle » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

Rostogovia wrote:
Aeternabilis wrote:Should lions and tigers stop existing just because evolution demanded they only eat meat?


Thats different, they MUST eat meat to survive. We do not have to.

I need protein, so yes I do.

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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:And what legal body shall enforce this?


The UN, their the organization that usually handles genocide.


The United Nations can barely handle the slaughter of people, I highly doubt that they'll be any more effective, nor concerned, with the slaughter of animals and livestock.
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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

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Postby Meryuma » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

I dunno. It's certainly troubling.

Rostogovia wrote:My personal philosophy is that since humans are able to survive without taking lives, it's our obligation to do so.


Speak for yourself. Not everyone is capable of maintaining a vegetarian or vegan diet healthily and sustainably.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

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Thats different, they MUST eat meat to survive. We do not have to.

I need protein, so yes I do.

Protein doesn't JUST come from meat.
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Postby The Northern United American Republic » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

Wait...You mean I'm not supposed to eat pigs or children? :blink:

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Postby Kiruri » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:39 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Kiruri wrote:But they are humans, and they speak human, so..

Fair enough, though some seem so drunk I can never understand a word they say.

Well, that is true xP
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Postby Rostogovia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:40 pm

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Mavorpen wrote:You're not a carnivore.

Humans are omnivores.


Who cares what human nature says, human nature was also responsible for the Holocaust.
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Postby Vozt Yurkova » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:40 pm

It depends if you're eating the children.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:40 pm

Rostogovia wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Humans are omnivores.


Who cares what human nature says, human nature was also responsible for the Holocaust.

What the actual fuck?
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Postby Keventle » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:40 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Keventle wrote:I need protein, so yes I do.

Protein doesn't JUST come from meat.

who is to tell me how I get my protein
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:40 pm

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Rostogovia wrote:Multiple studies have shown that pigs preform better on intelligence tests and cognitive evaluations than most 3 year old children, indicating that they are just as sentient as 3 year old children of our own species. Mother pigs in factory farms are known to cry and howl for days after they are separated from their children, pacing around their pens and attempting to find their lost children. what does NS think, is the meat industry genocide?

"Pigs have the cognitive ability to be quite sophisticated. Even more so than dogs and certainly three-year olds.” — Professor Donald Broom, Oxford University

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/opinion/thinking-about-pigs-before-theyre-food.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/science/10angier.html


Nope, not genocide.

We wouldn't have pork products if we actually genocided pigs.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:40 pm

Rostogovia wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:And what legal body shall enforce this?


The UN, their the organization that usually handles genocide.

But the UN and many national governments protects these rights.

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Postby Rostogovia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:41 pm

Keventle wrote:
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Thats different, they MUST eat meat to survive. We do not have to.

I need protein, so yes I do.


I haven't eaten meat since I was four, and I'm at the pinnacle of health.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:41 pm

Keventle wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Protein doesn't JUST come from meat.

how is to tell me how I get my protein

Have fun.
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Postby Aeternabilis » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:41 pm

Rostogovia wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Humans are omnivores.


Who cares what human nature says, human nature was also responsible for the Holocaust.

And Godwin's law makes its first appearance. But seriously, human nature also allowed you to complain about meat eaters on the internet and live in your house.
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Postby Arkinesia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:41 pm

No. Pigs do not have similar inherent value to human beings. Intelligence is not the only worthwhile trait in considering sapience.
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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:41 pm

Rostogovia wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Humans are omnivores.


Who cares what human nature says, human nature was also responsible for the Holocaust.


... and here we go with the Godwin...
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