Is killing pigs for food the same as murdering children?

[Kiruri]

No, because pigs don't have a little thingy called human rights. They have the right to feel as little pain as humanly inflictable.

That sounds eerily similar to racism.

Well.. obviously pigs can't have human rights... they're not human. They should be granted pig rights, tho. They have the right to be tasty :3

I ate pig. I still eat pig. I will eat pig.
Pig pig pig

[Keventle]

I'm still going to eat my bacon. Although the grown meat is a nice way to lower food prices in the future.

Why? Why would you eat something that has caused the suffering of another animal if there was an alternative that was exactly the same, but without anything dying for it?

Because we are animals that can eat other animals. Like bears eat fish and dear. If I wasn't supposed to eat other animals then I wouldn't be a carnivore

[Greater-London]

That sounds eerily similar to racism.

No it doesn't. Thats as sensationalist as the title of this thread.

[Rostogovia]

My personal philosophy is that since humans are able to survive without taking lives, it's our obligation to do so.

What about the Inuit, who often require meat to survive?

The Canadian government should do a better job of providing for them.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

No, because pigs don't have a little thingy called human rights. They have the right to feel as little pain as humanly inflictable.

That sounds eerily similar to racism.

How so? Pigs are not human. They do not comply to our rules or laws. They spend there lives rolling around in mud and eating. They are not too terribly important of animals alive, and are more useful to eat.

Besides, pigs have been domesticated. Releasing them into the wild will not work.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

What about the Inuit, who often require meat to survive?

The Canadian government should do a better job of providing for them.

So they should lose their culture to "save the animals" that they responsibly hunt and consume?

[Keventle]

(I just want to clear up I know we are omnivores, but I was talking about the carnivore aspect)

[Rostogovia]

That sounds eerily similar to racism.

Well.. obviously pigs can't have human rights... they're not human. They should be granted pig rights, tho. They have the right to be tasty :3

I ate pig. I still eat pig. I will eat pig.
Pig pig pig

Why can't pigs have human rights? In my opinion all sentient beings are people.

[Carbon based lifeforms]

Yes and no.

Yes, because killing is killing. I don't believe us humans are magically "better" than other animals, just like men are not magically "better" than women, or blonde people are not magically "better" than dark-haired ones.

No, because children contain less meat, and take more time and effort to breed, so it is better to kill pigs. Just as a matter of efficiency.

Also, killing your own children for food is not usually a sustainable survival strategy.

[Pandect]

It's not possible, though. Anything we eat was once a living thing, so to survive, we must kill things. That includes plants and animals, and microorganisms.

Nothing is killed when we consume fruit. Or legumes.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/n ... out-plants

[Rostogovia]

The Canadian government should do a better job of providing for them.

So they should lose their culture to "save the animals" that they responsibly hunt and consume?

If their culture demands the murder of sentient beings, than yes.

[Mollary]

In my opinion, as a vegetarian, they're property and have been created for our use. In reality, I don't think we should be breeding pigs and using resources and land that would be more efficient in feeding the world population (and less methane producing) with growing crops instead.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

Well.. obviously pigs can't have human rights... they're not human. They should be granted pig rights, tho. They have the right to be tasty :3

I ate pig. I still eat pig. I will eat pig.
Pig pig pig

Why can't pigs have human rights? In my opinion all sentient beings are people.

People =/= Humans

[Herskerstad]

Well.. obviously pigs can't have human rights... they're not human. They should be granted pig rights, tho. They have the right to be tasty :3

I ate pig. I still eat pig. I will eat pig.
Pig pig pig

Why can't pigs have human rights? In my opinion all sentient beings are people.

They can have that, hell, they can have voting rights too, the day a pig, unassisted, makes a written declaration of it in whatever language.

[Kiruri]

Well.. obviously pigs can't have human rights... they're not human. They should be granted pig rights, tho. They have the right to be tasty :3

I ate pig. I still eat pig. I will eat pig.
Pig pig pig

Why can't pigs have human rights? In my opinion all sentient beings are people.

Ummm....

I ate pig. I still eat pig. I will eat pig.
Pig pig pig

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

So they should lose their culture to "save the animals" that they responsibly hunt and consume?

If their culture demands the murder of sentient beings, than yes.

And what legal body shall enforce this?

[Keventle]

Well.. obviously pigs can't have human rights... they're not human. They should be granted pig rights, tho. They have the right to be tasty :3

I ate pig. I still eat pig. I will eat pig.
Pig pig pig

Why can't pigs have human rights? In my opinion all sentient beings are people.

when is it enough and how much Human rights? They don't speak any human language, they don't have jobs, they don't pay taxes. Key word : Human rights

[Aeternabilis]

So they should lose their culture to "save the animals" that they responsibly hunt and consume?

If their culture demands the murder of sentient beings, than yes.

Should lions and tigers stop existing just because evolution demanded they only eat meat?

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

Why can't pigs have human rights? In my opinion all sentient beings are people.

when is it enough and how much Human rights? They don't speak any human language, they don't have jobs, they don't pay taxes. Key word : Human rights

Neither do crazy homeless people.

[Greater-London]

Why can't pigs have human rights? In my opinion all sentient beings are people.

Sentience doesn't actually mean a great deal. Lots of animals recognize themselves it doesn't make them worthy holders of human rights. Animals don't have rights, humans have responsibility to ensure animals have welfare.

[Rostogovia]

If their culture demands the murder of sentient beings, than yes.

And what legal body shall enforce this?

The UN, their the organization that usually handles genocide.

[Mavorpen]

Why? Why would you eat something that has caused the suffering of another animal if there was an alternative that was exactly the same, but without anything dying for it?

Because we are animals that can eat other animals. Like bears eat fish and dear. If I wasn't supposed to eat other animals then I wouldn't be a carnivore

You're not a carnivore.

[Kiruri]

when is it enough and how much Human rights? They don't speak any human language, they don't have jobs, they don't pay taxes. Key word : Human rights

Neither do crazy homeless people.

But they are humans, and they speak human, so..

[Keventle]

when is it enough and how much Human rights? They don't speak any human language, they don't have jobs, they don't pay taxes. Key word : Human rights

Neither do crazy homeless people.

lol, they speak crazy human language.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

Because we are animals that can eat other animals. Like bears eat fish and dear. If I wasn't supposed to eat other animals then I wouldn't be a carnivore

You're not a carnivore.

Humans are omnivores.