Why does everyone hate the Jews?

[Riiser-Larsen]

The Jews are not a united nation; they are members of separate nations.

That's a problem and has always been a problem.

Yes, it is a problem, but it's one that should be solved peacefully, not by establishing a militaristic state in the Middle-East which regularly abuses the Palestinians.

[Shie]

That's a problem and has always been a problem.

Because they are not a nation, they do not have a nation; they cannot steal the nations of others because they have been historically oppressed.

They have Israel.

[United Marxist Nations]

What war crimes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:M ... _by_Israel

While what the Israeli government is doing is wrong on pretty much every level, let's not forget that pretty much every country in existence has committed some form of war crimes in the past (or present).

Israel's are more recent than many others, and, according to many sources, continue to this day.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Ancient Greece and Rome were not dominated by Homosexuals, it was simply that homosexuality was considered acceptable there. This is far different from what Israel has done, which is to establish a state ruled purely by Jews with laws specifically for the benefit of Jews. If Ancient Rome and Greece had denied rights to heterosexual citizens that existed for homosexual ones, then you might have a point. There is no evidence of that however.

Ancient Greece and Rome were heavily patriarchal.

They didn't believe in homosexuality, they believed in men using other men in the place of women, what would be potentially humiliating to said "used" men and meant their potential social rejection and ostracism especially past certain age.

[Tannarabia]

Why do the Jewish people deserve a homeland anymore than the atheist people, or the pagan people? Anti-zionism ≠ anti-semitism.

I believe they are the chosen people, I am also aware of the antisemetic campaigns of the Nazis and various Inquisitors.

Every group of people believe they are the chosen group. The Jewish people have their country, but are stepping over bounds with their actions against the Palestinians.

[MERIZoC]

Just because there was homosexual expression it doesn't mean it included more than 12-23% of the population.

What about San-Francisco and West Hollywood?

Because those are…nations now. Of course. And they are totally run by the gays.

[United Marxist Nations]

Because they are not a nation, they do not have a nation; they cannot steal the nations of others because they have been historically oppressed.

They have Israel.

Because they stole it from those who were living there only 70 years ago.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

What about San-Francisco and West Hollywood?

The very Castro district of SanFran only has circa 40% of non-cisgender non-heterosexuals.

[Alyakia]

yes?

Not as bad as what the jewish people experienced.

i just find it really ironic he mentioned concentration camps. it's almost like he doesn't know that jews weren't the only people the nazis tried to kill/put in camps.

being jewish wasn't illegal as far as the 60s, as far as i know. not that i think oppression olympics are really that productive.

Being anti-Israeli isn't antisemitic, Zionists need to get over that, and quit pretending that Israel hasn't committed numerous war-crimes.

What war crimes?

Israel's highest-rating news programme, Channel Two News, has published a statement correcting false claims that rockets were fired from schools operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) during the Gaza war in 2008-2009. The statement makes clear that Israeli officials themselves acknowledged that such claims were false and that there was no evidence to support them.

For the vast majority of homes destroyed, more than 3,000, and damaged, some 20,000, during Operation “Cast Lead”, the Israeli army has provided no evidence to substantiate its allegations that the houses were used as combat positions, as military command centres or to manufacture or store weapons – or for any other purpose which, under certain circumstances, would have made it lawful to target them.

Many of the houses, factories and farms were bulldozed and many of the houses were destroyed with Israeli anti-tank mines, as evident from the remains of the mines that littered the destroyed neighbourhoods, and from the pattern of destruction resulting from this method. Although designed to be used against tanks, these mines can also be set off remotely. Israeli forces have often used them to destroy Palestinian houses in the West Bank and at times also in Gaza.

The fact that the soldiers used this method – which required them to leave their tanks, walk between buildings and enter houses in order to place the explosive charges inside the houses along the supporting walls – indicates that they felt extremely confident that there were no Palestinian gunmen inside or around the houses. It also indicates their confidence that there were no tunnels under the houses which gunmen could use to capture them, and that the houses were not booby-trapped. Had the soldiers believed that they were in danger of being shot, blown up or captured, they would not have ventured out of their tanks to place the mines inside the houses.

Clearly marked ambulances with flashing emergency lights and paramedics wearing recognizable fluorescent vests were repeatedly fired upon as they attempted to rescue the wounded and collect the dead. Such attacks intensified after Israeli ground forces took positions inside Gaza on 3 January 2009. Palestinian ambulance crews tried as best they could to reach as many of the wounded and the dead as possible. They and the international volunteers who accompanied some of the ambulance crews risked their lives every day to carry out their mission.

From 3 January, when the Israeli ground incursion began, until the end of Operation “Cast Lead”, dozens of Israeli tanks took position in various locations inside the Gaza Strip, mostly in the east and north of Gaza. Tanks can fire high-explosive munitions, notably 120mm deep-penetration projectiles and guided shells with extreme precision, including while on the move and at moving targets, from a distance up to 3km from the target.

From these positions inside Gaza Israeli tanks often fired into Palestinian houses up to 2km or more away, killing scores of unarmed civilians, many of them children and women. In all the cases investigated by Amnesty International, the victims were neither caught in the crossfire of battles between soldiers and militants, nor were they shielding militants.

Others who fled their homes were killed or injured when UN schools and other places where they had sought shelter came under Israeli attack.


7:55 P.M. Interior Minister Eli Yishai on Israel's operation in Gaza: "The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages. Only then will Israel be calm for forty years."

“We must blow Gaza back to the Middle Ages destroying all the infrastructure including roads & water”

The Dahiya doctrine is a military strategy put forth by the Israeli general Gadi Eizenkot that pertains to asymmetric warfare in an urban setting, in which the army deliberately targets civilian infrastructure, as a means of inducing suffering for the civilian population, thereby establishing deterrence. The doctrine is named after a southern suburb in Beirut with large apartment buildings which were flattened by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) during the 2006 Lebanon War.

"This isn't a suggestion. It's a plan that has already been authorized."

The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned civilian targets, cinema, library and American educational center.

The goal of the Operation was to carry out bombings and other acts of terrorism in Egypt with the aim of creating an atmosphere in which the British and American opponents of British withdrawal from Egypt would be able to gain the upper hand and block the British withdrawal from Egypt.

During Operation "Cast Lead" Israeli forces repeatedly took over Palestinian homes in the Gaza Strip forcing families to stay in a ground-floor room while they used the rest of their house as a military base and sniper position – effectively using the families, both adults and children, as “human shields” and putting them at risk.

While soldiers wore protective body armour and helmets and shielded themselves behind sandbags as they fired from the houses, the Palestinian inhabitants of the houses had no such protection.

The Israeli Defence Ministry will appeal against a supreme court ruling banning the use of Palestinian human shields in raids, officials said. The practice was outlawed by the Supreme Court of Israel in 2005 but human rights groups say the IDF continues to use it, although they say the number of instances has dropped sharply.

During the 2008-2009 Gaza War known as Operation Cast Lead, Israeli military forces were accused of continuing to use civilians as human shields by Amnesty International and former Israeli soldiers (see Breaking the Silence). According to testimonies, Israeli forces used unarmed Palestinians including children to protect military positions, walk in front of armed soldiers; go into buildings to check for booby traps or gunmen; and inspect suspicious objects for explosives.

honorable mention to "IDF tie boy to jeep"

list of anti-semetic sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 333982.stm
https://twitter.com/billneelyitv/status ... 0104691712
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... y-1.478505
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/is ... s-1.434127
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset ... 2009en.pdf[/quote]

While what the Israeli government is doing is wrong on pretty much every level, let's not forget that pretty much every country in existence has committed some form of war crimes in the past (or present).

the difference is we don't get called anti-british if we start talking about crimes in nothern ireland or anti-french if we talk about africa but the minute you start talking about israel oh boy

[Lingang]

Because they are not a nation, they do not have a nation; they cannot steal the nations of others because they have been historically oppressed.

They have Israel.

They have stole Israel

[Bratislavskaya]

prepare for your thread to become a shitstorm over this issue (you're wrong)

I will not allow blatant antisemitism here. The Jewish people deserve a homeland because they've been put down for too long.

They gave the Jews a homeland, in Israel, however Israel took over a load of land around it which belonged to other countries, and invaded Jerusalem (which was intended to be a free city). I do not agree with Israels whole expansionism thing.

Mostly because of Christians, really. Jews could handle money and such, Christians couldn't. Thus the Jews were sorta alienated.

I know many Christians that are fine with Jews, I am one of them.

[Riiser-Larsen]

Ancient Greece and Rome were not dominated by Homosexuals, it was simply that homosexuality was considered acceptable there. This is far different from what Israel has done, which is to establish a state ruled purely by Jews with laws specifically for the benefit of Jews. If Ancient Rome and Greece had denied rights to heterosexual citizens that existed for homosexual ones, then you might have a point. There is no evidence of that however.

Ancient Greece and Rome were heavily patriarchal.

They didn't believe in homosexuality, they believed in men using other men in the place of women, what would be potentially humiliating to said "used" men and meant their potential social rejection and ostracism especially past certain age.

Technically speaking that does count as some form of homosexuality (or at least bisexuality), but thank you for elaborating. It's a weird thing to try to summarize.

[Alaizia]

I believe they are the chosen people, I am also aware of the antisemetic campaigns of the Nazis and various Inquisitors.

See? That why Jews have a bad name. Because of people like you.

"Chosen people".....Wtf.....

[Hanchu]

What war crimes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:M ... _by_Israel

While what the Israeli government is doing is wrong on pretty much every level, let's not forget that pretty much every country in existence has committed some form of war crimes in the past (or present).

That is not fair, fairness is not dictated by majority.

Just saying that I demand a homeland for socially anxious/awkward people.

We will claim the city of New York, and no one will ever have to interact socially again!

Deal , what goes for one group , goes for all groups , it's only fair.

[United Marxist Nations]

Ancient Greece and Rome were not dominated by Homosexuals, it was simply that homosexuality was considered acceptable there. This is far different from what Israel has done, which is to establish a state ruled purely by Jews with laws specifically for the benefit of Jews. If Ancient Rome and Greece had denied rights to heterosexual citizens that existed for homosexual ones, then you might have a point. There is no evidence of that however.

Ancient Greece and Rome were heavily patriarchal.

They didn't believe in homosexuality, they believed in men using other men in the place of women, what would be potentially humiliating to said "used" men and meant their potential social rejection and ostracism especially past certain age.

Only if said men were of a higher or equal social standing; those of lower social standing were able to be "bottoms"; Roman culture attributed sexual dominance to social dominance.

[Inquilabstan]

Just because there was homosexual expression it doesn't mean it included more than 12-23% of the population.

What about San-Francisco and West Hollywood?

At this point, I am convinced he is a troll.

[Alaizia]

They have Israel.

Because they stole it from those who were living there only 70 years ago.

This.

[Shie]

That's a problem and has always been a problem.

Yes, it is a problem, but it's one that should be solved peacefully, not by establishing a militaristic state in the Middle-East which regularly abuses the Palestinians.

Abuse? That's not serious, the palestinians have been racist towards the jewish people and resent Israel because they've brought innovation and modern technology to the middle-east.

[Riiser-Larsen]

What about San-Francisco and West Hollywood?

At this point, I am convinced he is a troll.

No, believe me, I've been in discussions with him before. He is very serious.

[Albul]

I'm surprised to find out that everyone hates the Jews. Up to this point I had thought that I liked Jewish people. Apparently, according to your statement, I, too, hate the Jews. Even Jews hate the Jews, then.

[Ordia]

yes?

Not as bad as what the jewish people experienced.

Or what any other people who have had to deal with a genocide experienced.

[Alyakia]

Yes, it is a problem, but it's one that should be solved peacefully, not by establishing a militaristic state in the Middle-East which regularly abuses the Palestinians.

Abuse? That's not serious, the palestinians have been racist towards the jewish people and resent Israel because they've brought innovation and modern technology to the middle-east.

are you sure it's not because they keep fucking them over? even when they try being peaceful?

e: they hate us for our freedoms

[Llamalandia]

What about San-Francisco and West Hollywood?

At this point, I am convinced he is a troll.

Well i believe that's a matter to discuss in moderation, rather than in the thread is it not? Just saying. I believe there's also some rule about not calling people trolls in a thread outside of moderation (even if they are in fact a troll, which I take no position on here). /Not a mod

Just trying to throw out some friendly advice.

[Calimera II]

Because they stole it from those who were living there only 70 years ago.

This.

Yea no.
Jordania for the Palestines. Israel for the jews.

[Aquitayne]

I'm surprised to find out that everyone hates the Jews. Up to this point I had thought that I liked Jewish people. Apparently, according to your statement, I, too, hate the Jews. Even Jews hate the Jews, then.

Jews for Jesus! Jews for Jesus, anyone?