Because it is an unloving abuse of the human person.
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by The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:44 pm
Because it is an unloving abuse of the human person.

by The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:45 pm
Just like how YEC prove that reality is subjective, amiright?

by Grenartia » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:46 pm
The Flood wrote:Just like how YEC prove that reality is subjective, amiright?Dyakovo wrote:The simple fact that other people have a moral code that differs from your own proves morality is subjective.
No. People with differing moral codes are just wrong.
But since you do seem to believe morality is subjective, then why are you calling me wrong, or arguing with me?

by The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:57 pm
Because you are selfishly using another person for personal gratification, in an unloving fashion.

by Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:00 pm

by The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:02 pm
Yes, that is why it is mutually immoral, for both participants. Both are selfishly dehumanizing another human being for their sexual gratification.

by ALMF » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:08 pm
Jumalariik wrote:Threlizdun wrote:I don't think you are worse than Nazis, but that you believe in a being worse than the one Nazis follow.
If God was omnipotent and omniscient then he created us with the prior knowledge of what we would do. He designed us with the mental structure to perform acts he already knew we would perform when he created us. There is no way around this fact if God truly exists and is truly omniscient. Where is the free will in that? If he exists, then he made Jeffrey Dahmer with the mind of a psychopath. Again, where is the free will in that? People do not freely choose their actions. Free will is incompatible with both science and theology. If God exists, then he is a monster. Thankfully, he doesn't exist. Unfortunately, you are still advocating treating others with cruelty for actions that harm no one because of your unfortunate belief in a nonexistent entity.
You said that 1 we're worse than nazis,2 we follow a book that is worse than the ones that nazis follow, there is no getting around it.

by Dyakovo » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:09 pm

by Grenartia » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:09 pm

by The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:10 pm
Of course not, I am not married.

by The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:13 pm
Their purpose is not to make the other person happy, but to make themselves happy. And even if they are doing it for the other person, which is unlikely, they are still providing someone with an illicit pleasure.

by Grenartia » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:13 pm

by Dyakovo » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:13 pm

by Libertarian California » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:15 pm

by Grenartia » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:15 pm
The Flood wrote:1. Their purpose is not to make the other person happy, but to make themselves happy. And even if they are doing it for the other person, which is unlikely, 2. they are still providing someone with an illicit pleasure.Camelza wrote:So? Their both making each other happy willingly, what is bad about it? And who made you the guardian of morality?
3. Not to mention the many risks of casual sex, such as spreading STDs, accidental pregnancy, or creating emotional harm, all contribute to the inherent immorality of promiscuity.

by Camelza » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:16 pm
The Flood wrote:Their purpose is not to make the other person happy, but to make themselves happy. And even if they are doing it for the other person, which is unlikely, they are still providing someone with an illicit pleasure.Camelza wrote:So? Their both making each other happy willingly, what is bad about it? And who made you the guardian of morality?
Not to mention the many risks of casual sex, such as spreading STDs, accidental pregnancy, or creating emotional harm, all contribute to the inherent immorality of promiscuity.

by Liriena » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:17 pm
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by Libertarian California » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:18 pm
Liriena wrote:I think slut-shaming tells a lot more about the person doing it than their victim. Namely, it tells me that they are sex-negative and pathetically insecure as fuck about it.
Don't slut-shame.

by Liriena » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:19 pm
Camelza wrote:The Flood wrote:Their purpose is not to make the other person happy, but to make themselves happy. And even if they are doing it for the other person, which is unlikely, they are still providing someone with an illicit pleasure.
This doesn't contradict my post.
Oh god ....illicit pleasure, that's golden.Not to mention the many risks of casual sex, such as spreading STDs, accidental pregnancy, or creating emotional harm, all contribute to the inherent immorality of promiscuity.
Ok, whatever you say ...after that Illicit pleasure thing I just can't take this conversation seriously. Sorry.
But you know, condoms are a thing.
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by Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:20 pm
The Flood wrote:Their purpose is not to make the other person happy, but to make themselves happy. And even if they are doing it for the other person, which is unlikely, they are still providing someone with an illicit pleasure.Camelza wrote:So? Their both making each other happy willingly, what is bad about it? And who made you the guardian of morality?
Not to mention the many risks of casual sex, such as spreading STDs, accidental pregnancy, or creating emotional harm, all contribute to the inherent immorality of promiscuity.

by Liriena » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:22 pm

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