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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:53 pm

Cupola wrote:
The Flood wrote:It is my business to be concerned with the moral righteousness of the human race.

No, it's not. Morality is subjective, not objective, and we're arguing about amoral issues here. Let people live their own lives while you live out yours.
It most certainly is not subjective.
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Postby Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:53 pm

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Cupola wrote:No, it's not. Morality is subjective, not objective, and we're arguing about amoral issues here. Let people live their own lives while you live out yours.
It most certainly is not subjective.

Morality comes from people, does it not?
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:54 pm

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Cupola wrote:How about you step out of other people's sex lives simply because it's none of your business, please?
It is my business to be concerned with the moral righteousness of the human race.

Focus on your own moral righteousness first.
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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:54 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Flood wrote:It is my business to be concerned with the moral righteousness of the human race.

No it's not, it's your weird obsession with what other people do without you. Most of us get over that around age eight or so and learn to amuse ourselves.
Stop wanking about what other people do to each other behind closed doors. Or, at least have the decency to admit you're wanking it and just watch porn like a normal person.
I do not watch porn, nor will I ever. Porn is a wicked and evil activity to partake in.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:55 pm

The Flood wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:No it's not, it's your weird obsession with what other people do without you. Most of us get over that around age eight or so and learn to amuse ourselves.
Stop wanking about what other people do to each other behind closed doors. Or, at least have the decency to admit you're wanking it and just watch porn like a normal person.
I do not watch porn, nor will I ever. Porn is a wicked and evil activity to partake in.

Nobody is making you watch porn.
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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:55 pm

Cupola wrote:
The Flood wrote:It most certainly is not subjective.

Morality comes from people, does it not?
Of course not. It comes from God.
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Postby Kiruri » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:55 pm

The Flood wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:No it's not, it's your weird obsession with what other people do without you. Most of us get over that around age eight or so and learn to amuse ourselves.
Stop wanking about what other people do to each other behind closed doors. Or, at least have the decency to admit you're wanking it and just watch porn like a normal person.
I do not watch porn, nor will I ever. Porn is a wicked and evil activity to partake in.


I'm just glad to be part of the 9/10 men that watch porn :)
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:56 pm

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Cupola wrote:Morality comes from people, does it not?
Of course not. It comes from God.

Everyone doesn't believe in a god or in the same one.
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Postby ALMF » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:56 pm

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Gaelic Celtia wrote:No more than those sections of the bible harm people.

No, wrong.
There is porn that depicts rape, murder and bestiality positively.
The Christian Bible goes against all of those things.

1/3 is not very good especaly when1/3 is promoted:
Numbers 31:18, Judges 21:10-24, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, Deuteronomy 22:29, Judges 5:30, Exodus 21:7-11, Zechariah 14:1-2, et al.
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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:57 pm

Kiruri wrote:
The Flood wrote:I do not watch porn, nor will I ever. Porn is a wicked and evil activity to partake in.


I'm just glad to be part of the 9/10 men that watch porn :)
Sure, go on being glad to be a misogynist that abuses women for one's own gratification.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:57 pm

The Flood wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:No it's not, it's your weird obsession with what other people do without you. Most of us get over that around age eight or so and learn to amuse ourselves.
Stop wanking about what other people do to each other behind closed doors. Or, at least have the decency to admit you're wanking it and just watch porn like a normal person.
I do not watch porn, nor will I ever. Porn is a wicked and evil activity to partake in.

I have unwittingly become part of someone's theater, I feel.
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Postby Vicious Debaters » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:57 pm

The Flood wrote:Of course not. It comes from God.


Your beliefs are not founded in reality. I feel kind of sorry for you, I guess.

You should understand that none of would try to force you to abandon your unnecessarily prudish ways, but you seek to enforce your sexual worldview on others. This puts us in the moral high ground.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:58 pm

The Flood wrote:
Kiruri wrote:
I'm just glad to be part of the 9/10 men that watch porn :)
Sure, go on being glad to be a misogynist that abuses women for one's own gratification.

Now I'm sure of it.
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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:58 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Flood wrote:Of course not. It comes from God.

Everyone doesn't believe in a god or in the same one.
Not everyone believes in evolution, either. Does that change the fact that evolution is true?
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Postby Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:58 pm

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Cupola wrote:Morality comes from people, does it not?
Of course not. It comes from God.

You mean the Holy Bible, right? When have you ever heard God speak to you?
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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:00 pm

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The Flood wrote:Of course not. It comes from God.

Your beliefs are not founded in reality. I feel kind of sorry for you, I guess.
You should understand that none of would try to force you to abandon your unnecessarily prudish ways, but you seek to enforce your sexual worldview on others. This puts us in the moral high ground.
I aim to encourage people to abandon promiscuity, not to force them to. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said we should outlaw promiscuity.
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Postby Hladgos » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:00 pm

Slut shaming should be something only really mentioned in comedy.
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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:01 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Flood wrote:Sure, go on being glad to be a misogynist that abuses women for one's own gratification.

Now I'm sure of it.

Sure of what?
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Postby Kiruri » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:01 pm

The Flood wrote:
Kiruri wrote:
I'm just glad to be part of the 9/10 men that watch porn :)
Sure, go on being glad to be a misogynist that abuses women for one's own gratification.


*Sigh* so.. you're one of those people?

Well... that's okay. I'm not here to change your ways nor expose how faulty your opinions are :) If it makes you feel any better or if it is of any comfort, I'm watching porn right now.
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Postby Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:01 pm

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Geilinor wrote:Everyone doesn't believe in a god or in the same one.
Not everyone believes in evolution, either. Does that change the fact that evolution is true?

First of all, that doesn't belong in this thread. Second of all, you don't have to believe in evolution. It is factual independent of other people's beliefs or wishes due to it being backed by mountains of scientific evidence.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:03 pm

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Cupola wrote:How about you step out of other people's sex lives simply because it's none of your business, please?
It is my business to be concerned with the moral righteousness of the human race.


Except its hardly immoral, by any reasonable and rational definition.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:03 pm

The Flood wrote:
Kiruri wrote:
I'm just glad to be part of the 9/10 men that watch porn :)
Sure, go on being glad to be a misogynist that abuses women for one's own gratification.

Most porn isn't abuse.
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Postby Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:04 pm

The Flood wrote:
Vicious Debaters wrote:Your beliefs are not founded in reality. I feel kind of sorry for you, I guess.
You should understand that none of would try to force you to abandon your unnecessarily prudish ways, but you seek to enforce your sexual worldview on others. This puts us in the moral high ground.
I aim to encourage people to abandon promiscuity, not to force them to. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said we should outlaw promiscuity.

Your encouragements are without basis. Why don't you spend your resources on actual moral matters instead of engaging in debates over matters that shouldn't even be moral matters in the first place?
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Postby ALMF » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:12 pm

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Threlizdun wrote:I'm not arguing that Mein Kamf is moral, but that the Bible is even more vile than one of the most disgusting texts in history.

Now you have failed to acknowledge that your God at one point thought killing rape victims was justice. We have no moral obligation to follow the commands of such a monster.

You literally said that Mein Kampf is better than the Bible for morals, you literally said thus by extension that someone who advocates killing Jews is better than one who advocates turning the other cheek. Great, I love the internet, people talk about how immoral others are for liking books that advocate murder, then support books like Mein Kampf above them. *sarcastic smile*

He expressly said Mein Kampf is horrible (corectly), then he said the bible was MORE horrible (agen correctly).
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:15 pm

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Threlizdun wrote:I'm not arguing that Mein Kamf is moral, but that the Bible is even more vile than one of the most disgusting texts in history.

Now you have failed to acknowledge that your God at one point thought killing rape victims was justice. We have no moral obligation to follow the commands of such a monster.

You literally said that Mein Kampf is better than the Bible for morals, you literally said thus by extension that someone who advocates killing Jews is better than one who advocates turning the other cheek. Great, I love the internet, people talk about how immoral others are for liking books that advocate murder, then support books like Mein Kampf above them. *sarcastic smile*

God kills numerous innocent people in the Bible and then demands that the survivors and their ancestors worship him. Hitler demanded obedience, but not worship.
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