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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:25 am

Llamalandia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:How valuable is a car that has been driven hundreds of times versus a brand new, never used car?

So we're back to the idea that virginity makes a woman more valuable?


Well in a physical mechanical sense, yes. I mean, they have tightening suregeries for down there to restore it to umm...factory condition so to speak.[/quote]
The idea that having sex makes a woman's vagina looser is a myth.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:26 pm

Seaxeland wrote:Slut shaming wouldn't even exist if people weren't sluts.

Not that there is anything wrong with slut shaming, as there isn't. Immorality is always wrong and should be stopped at the source, lest the immoral be damned to Hell.

You should examine your weird obsession with the sex lives of others.
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Postby Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:27 pm

Seaxeland wrote:Slut shaming wouldn't even exist if people weren't sluts.

Not that there is anything wrong with slut shaming, as there isn't. Immorality is always wrong and should be stopped at the source, lest the immoral be damned to Hell.

Other people's sex lives ain't your damn business. Back off, sir.
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Postby Salvageville » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:27 pm

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:29 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Llamalandia wrote:

Well in a physical mechanical sense, yes. I mean, they have tightening suregeries for down there to restore it to umm...factory condition so to speak.

The idea that having sex makes a woman's vagina looser is a myth.

You mean to tell me that I'm not so physically awesome and super potent that I permanently alter the physical characteristics of another person's anatomy just by thrusting myself into it? But...but...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:30 pm

Salvageville wrote:People living nature of his fans crazy and strange odd body that you should be a search for you.

Is this a word scramble? Do I get a free hamburger if I figure it out?
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Postby Vicious Debaters » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:33 pm

The limits of 'slut shaming' is if they break an actual law, including harassment.

I'm one for sexual freedom but I would never restrict those assholes ability to spout hate. This is because if we did, it would also hinder our rights to freedom of speech.
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Postby Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:35 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Salvageville wrote:People living nature of his fans crazy and strange odd body that you should be a search for you.

Is this a word scramble? Do I get a free hamburger if I figure it out?

Methinks Google Translate played a part in this monstrocity of a forum post.
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Postby Vozt Yurkova » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:36 pm

I don't think there is any situation where it's okay to slut-shame.
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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:37 pm

New Lexington wrote:
The Flood wrote:Casual sex and promiscuity are immoral, and should be condemned as such. They should be stigmatized by society at large, enough to discourage these actions, but not so much that it becomes hatred. This stigma should apply to both sexes evenly.

I also don't think words like 'slut' and 'whore' should be used in a derogatory sense. Only that promiscuity should not be considered acceptable behaviour.

Engaging in physical expression of love is immoral? How so? For more credibility, try and answer without citing one religions dogmatic beleifs.

And what do you describe as casual? Sex out of marriage? Or sex for pleasure? How is engaging in sexual activity with a consenting partner for enjoyment in anyway negative or detrimental? Also, why should you care what one does in the bedroom so long as it does not directly impact you?
I'm tired of people expressing this "why should you care if it doesn't affect you?" attitude. It's the most selfish bloody conceited thing I've ever heard. Why the hell should I only care about myself? Why the hell do you encourage that? People SHOULD care what others do, for the good of all humanity, people should care for their brothers and sisters, and not simply concern themselves with their own person only.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:38 pm

The Flood wrote:
New Lexington wrote:Engaging in physical expression of love is immoral? How so? For more credibility, try and answer without citing one religions dogmatic beleifs.

And what do you describe as casual? Sex out of marriage? Or sex for pleasure? How is engaging in sexual activity with a consenting partner for enjoyment in anyway negative or detrimental? Also, why should you care what one does in the bedroom so long as it does not directly impact you?
I'm tired of people expressing this "why should you care if it doesn't affect you?" attitude. It's the most selfish bloody conceited thing I've ever heard. Why the hell should I only care about myself? Why the hell do you encourage that? People SHOULD care what others do, for the good of all humanity, people should care for their brothers and sisters, and not simply concern themselves with their own person only.


And these people who love many others certainly do that.
So why condemn so harshly ?
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:39 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Salvageville wrote:People living nature of his fans crazy and strange odd body that you should be a search for you.

Is this a word scramble? Do I get a free hamburger if I figure it out?


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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:39 pm

The Flood wrote:
New Lexington wrote:Engaging in physical expression of love is immoral? How so? For more credibility, try and answer without citing one religions dogmatic beleifs.

And what do you describe as casual? Sex out of marriage? Or sex for pleasure? How is engaging in sexual activity with a consenting partner for enjoyment in anyway negative or detrimental? Also, why should you care what one does in the bedroom so long as it does not directly impact you?
I'm tired of people expressing this "why should you care if it doesn't affect you?" attitude. It's the most selfish bloody conceited thing I've ever heard. Why the hell should I only care about myself? Why the hell do you encourage that? People SHOULD care what others do, for the good of all humanity, people should care for their brothers and sisters, and not simply concern themselves with their own person only.

I would argue that it's particularly selfish to insist that everyone conform to your particular desires in matters that do not effect you.
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Postby Vicious Debaters » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:40 pm

The Flood wrote:I'm tired of people expressing this "why should you care if it doesn't affect you?" attitude. It's the most selfish bloody conceited thing I've ever heard. Why the hell should I only care about myself? Why the hell do you encourage that? People SHOULD care what others do, for the good of all humanity, people should care for their brothers and sisters, and not simply concern themselves with their own person only.


People should care for each other to the extent of pushing their view of sexual morality on them? We're not talking about tossing a rope to someone who's trapped in quicksand, we're talking about chastising a gal because she likes sex. It's different.

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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:40 pm

If a person sleeps around, i'll quietly tell people, to warn them.

Other than that, i'll do nothing.

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Postby Galloism » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:40 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:The idea that having sex makes a woman's vagina looser is a myth.

You mean to tell me that I'm not so physically awesome and super potent that I permanently alter the physical characteristics of another person's anatomy just by thrusting myself into it? But...but...

Only a few of us have that gift.

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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:41 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:If a person sleeps around, i'll quietly tell people, to warn them.

Other than that, i'll do nothing.

Why would you need to warn others?
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Postby ALMF » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:41 pm

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Not to mention how he argues that porn promotes misogyny, when Christianity is anything but a bastion in favor of women' rights.

Or religious texts in general.

Interestingly enough not Charvaca Hindu; wings of each of Buddhism, Shinto, and Dowism; or precristion pagan north Europe.
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Postby Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:41 pm

The Flood wrote:
New Lexington wrote:Engaging in physical expression of love is immoral? How so? For more credibility, try and answer without citing one religions dogmatic beleifs.

And what do you describe as casual? Sex out of marriage? Or sex for pleasure? How is engaging in sexual activity with a consenting partner for enjoyment in anyway negative or detrimental? Also, why should you care what one does in the bedroom so long as it does not directly impact you?
I'm tired of people expressing this "why should you care if it doesn't affect you?" attitude. It's the most selfish bloody conceited thing I've ever heard. Why the hell should I only care about myself? Why the hell do you encourage that? People SHOULD care what others do, for the good of all humanity, people should care for their brothers and sisters, and not simply concern themselves with their own person only.

How about you step out of other people's sex lives simply because it's none of your business, please?
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:46 pm

The Flood wrote:
New Lexington wrote:Engaging in physical expression of love is immoral? How so? For more credibility, try and answer without citing one religions dogmatic beleifs.

And what do you describe as casual? Sex out of marriage? Or sex for pleasure? How is engaging in sexual activity with a consenting partner for enjoyment in anyway negative or detrimental? Also, why should you care what one does in the bedroom so long as it does not directly impact you?
I'm tired of people expressing this "why should you care if it doesn't affect you?" attitude. 1. It's the most selfish bloody conceited thing I've ever heard. 2. Why the hell should I only care about myself? Why the hell do you encourage that? 3. People SHOULD care what others do, for the good of all humanity, 4. people should care for their brothers and sisters and siblings of other genders, and not simply concern themselves with their own person only.


1. Prove its selfish. Or, acknowledge that you're being even more selfish than you think our attitude is. Either way.

2. Why the hell should you stick your nose in another person's business when it doesn't affect you, and nobody's being wronged?

3. Only as far as what others do affects the rest of us. And people having sex with each other doesn't affect you, unless it involves you.

4. Yes. Namely by letting them do as they wish (so long as it doesn't deprive others of their reasonable rights without informed consent) without judgment.
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:46 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
The Emerald Dragon wrote:If a person sleeps around, i'll quietly tell people, to warn them.

Other than that, i'll do nothing.

Why would you need to warn others?


Just so they know everything before making a decision, whether they sleep with anyone isn't my business, but the people who will sleep with them need to be told.

Imagine.

"That guy/girl sleeps around and has an STD, i'm just telling you in case you decide to sleep with him/her"

instead of.

1.) Doesn't tell person
2.) The person who wasn't told has sex with infected person
3.) Person may now be infected with disease.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:49 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Why would you need to warn others?


Just so they know everything before making a decision, whether they sleep with anyone isn't my business, but the people who will sleep with them need to be told.

Imagine.

"That guy/girl sleeps around and has an STD, i'm just telling you in case you decide to sleep with him/her"

instead of.

1.) Doesn't tell person
2.) The person who wasn't told has sex with infected person
3.) Person may now be infected with disease.

You added a vital piece of information there that significantly alters your original assertion. Please note that this additional condition is possible with a single partner.
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Postby The Flood » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:49 pm

Cupola wrote:
The Flood wrote:I'm tired of people expressing this "why should you care if it doesn't affect you?" attitude. It's the most selfish bloody conceited thing I've ever heard. Why the hell should I only care about myself? Why the hell do you encourage that? People SHOULD care what others do, for the good of all humanity, people should care for their brothers and sisters, and not simply concern themselves with their own person only.

How about you step out of other people's sex lives simply because it's none of your business, please?
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Postby Cupola » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:50 pm

The Flood wrote:
Cupola wrote:How about you step out of other people's sex lives simply because it's none of your business, please?
It is my business to be concerned with the moral righteousness of the human race.

No, it's not. Morality is subjective, not objective, and we're arguing about amoral issues here. Let people live their own lives while you live out yours.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:51 pm

The Flood wrote:
Cupola wrote:How about you step out of other people's sex lives simply because it's none of your business, please?
It is my business to be concerned with the moral righteousness of the human race.

No it's not, it's your weird obsession with what other people do without you. Most of us get over that around age eight or so and learn to amuse ourselves.

Stop wanking about what other people do to each other behind closed doors. Or, at least have the decency to admit you're wanking it and just watch porn like a normal person.
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