What are the limits of "Slut shaming?"

[Threlizdun]

Okay....

So it's acceptable for you to criticize all non-Christians over what pretty much one or two people said, and it's acceptable for you criticize all pornography because some is bad...

But it isn't okay for people to criticize the Bible because some parts contain some pretty bad stuff?

Hypocritical much?

No, all but one of my friends are atheists, this is fact, all but one of my friends have said things about Christianity that amount to "it's bullshit." This also includes my family who are also atheists. I don't dislike all atheists, I just think that they have the tendency to say scumbag things about Christianity and other religions, for example, comparing me and 1 Bill others to nazis.... (sounds as trollish as Russian SSS)

You may notice however that while many have criticized your beliefs, you have not been subject to attacks on your person. You did however state that sexual sadists and those belonging to the BDSM community are bad people, in which you did make a personal attack against me and others on this site. I'm afraid that you are the only one who has been arguing holding particular beliefs or interests makes you a terrible person.

[Madhuri]

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[Madhuri]

I kinda like it how society goes: "Yo! Dude, how many girls you fucked this month? I'm on my 15th." "Aw, nice dude! I'm going for my 20th!" "Yeah! Brah! Nice!"

But with women it's like: "You've been with 2 men! You fucking whore! *slaps* Go wash the skank-prostitute off and chug a bottle of extra virgin olive oil now! >:[ "

[Jumalariik]

No, all but one of my friends are atheists, this is fact, all but one of my friends have said things about Christianity that amount to "it's bullshit." This also includes my family who are also atheists. I don't dislike all atheists, I just think that they have the tendency to say scumbag things about Christianity and other religions, for example, comparing me and 1 Bill others to nazis.... (sounds as trollish as Russian SSS)

No. The gal's/guy's argument about Hitler & Christianity made perfect sense upon explanation actually. And he never compared you specifically to a nazi. But of course, many more than 8 million have been killed in the name of Christianity as well but anyway....
It's not like Christian's don't shit talk Atheists or Muslims (in America) either, so let's not get all high and mighty.

I don't deny that I talk shit about atheists. I do so because all the atheists I know talk shit about Christianity.

[Vettrera]

And it is justified to shame people for picking a different choice for themselves because....

I think it is fine to have sex with others besides your partner (before/after you're with (in a relationship) with them, of course). Having sex with tons of people (by tons I mean 4+) in a small amount of time, in a relationship or not, is absolutely disgraceful.

That still doesn't explain why you should ridicule them. They may have different values.

[The Batorys]

A car driven a few times by a few others can still be good, no?

Are you fine with people viewing you in the same light? As if you're only 70% as valuable as you were before each time you've had sex.

So after your first partner, you'll have 70% of the attractiveness that you did when you were a virgin, 49% after the second time, 34.3%, 24%, and so on and so on. (And let's also assume your dating pool shrinks accordingly)


*- arbitrarily selected number

Rebel America never specified whether it was the sheer amount of sex, or the number of partners.

Someone with a long-term, steady partner, gets sex on the regular more than someone who isn't with such, generally. So the monogamous women are actually depreciating more, if it's the amount of sex.

[Threlizdun]

I don't think you are worse than Nazis, but that you believe in a being worse than the one Nazis follow.

If God was omnipotent and omniscient then he created us with the prior knowledge of what we would do. He designed us with the mental structure to perform acts he already knew we would perform when he created us. There is no way around this fact if God truly exists and is truly omniscient. Where is the free will in that? If he exists, then he made Jeffrey Dahmer with the mind of a psychopath. Again, where is the free will in that? People do not freely choose their actions. Free will is incompatible with both science and theology. If God exists, then he is a monster. Thankfully, he doesn't exist. Unfortunately, you are still advocating treating others with cruelty for actions that harm no one because of your unfortunate belief in a nonexistent entity.

You said that we're worse than nazis, we follow a book that is worse than the ones that nazis follow, there is no getting around it.

No, I did say that you follow a worse book than them but I have not argued you are worse people. Christians, like most people, generally are good-natured and care for others. Nazis will always advocate horrendous things. I do not believe you are a monster, just your god.

[The Batorys]

Are you fine with people viewing you in the same light? As if you're only 70% as valuable as you were before each time you've had sex.

So after your first partner, you'll have 70% of the attractiveness that you did when you were a virgin, 49% after the second time, 34.3%, 24%, and so on and so on. (And let's also assume your dating pool shrinks accordingly)


*- arbitrarily selected number

As a virgin who only wants to marry once, and have sex with only one other human being, yes.

So, you are, in fact, a virgin.


How extremely unsurprising. Who saw that coming?

[Jumalariik]

No, all but one of my friends are atheists, this is fact, all but one of my friends have said things about Christianity that amount to "it's bullshit." This also includes my family who are also atheists. I don't dislike all atheists, I just think that they have the tendency to say scumbag things about Christianity and other religions, for example, comparing me and 1 Bill others to nazis.... (sounds as trollish as Russian SSS)

You may notice however that while many have criticized your beliefs, you have not been subject to attacks on your person. You did however state that sexual sadists and those belonging to the BDSM community are bad people, in which you did make a personal attack against me and others on this site. I'm afraid that you are the only one who has been arguing holding particular beliefs or interests makes you a terrible person.

I think that calling sexual sadists terrible people is pretty self explanatory......... They enjoy causing pain to others. Same goes for BDSM.

[Rebel America]

I hate this liberal, politically correct world.

I wouldn't "do" a good looking, fine-bodied women if she is constantly doing people. I was comparing virginity to a car.

A car driven a few times by a few others can still be good, no?

People who say they hate a "liberal, politically correct world" are usually assholes.

And it's clear that you think of women as objects, not as people. You think of a woman who has had a sex life as "used goods." That is super fucked up and sexist.

Also, it's apparent that you either have never had sex, or are terrible at it. Virgins aren't particularly good at sex, whereas people who have had a fair amount of it very often are.

Also, a woman who has been in a relationship for the past two years has probably had a LOT more sex than a woman who is otherwise a very similar person, but has been single and having casual sex the past two years.

A better analogy would be the driver of a car, not the car itself. Seldom are people that great at driving when they start, but they get better with practice, though sometimes they can develop bad habits or grow complacent.

Someone isn't a better or worse driver if they've driven ten cars over the past ten years than if they've owned only one car for the past ten years, though. The first might know a bit more about maintenance, whereas the second one may have an easier time adjusting to a new car that's different from what they've driven before.

Yes, I am a virgin.

I am not sexist, nor do I view women as objects.

I never said that a women with a sex life is a used good. Perhaps, one with a broad sex life could be.

When I say that, I mean a girl that does more than three in a week, in a relationship or not.

My metaphor did not intend to make women and objects a comparison.

[Threlizdun]

No. The gal's/guy's argument about Hitler & Christianity made perfect sense upon explanation actually. And he never compared you specifically to a nazi. But of course, many more than 8 million have been killed in the name of Christianity as well but anyway....
It's not like Christian's don't shit talk Atheists or Muslims (in America) either, so let's not get all high and mighty.

I don't deny that I talk shit about atheists. I do so because all the atheists I know talk shit about Christianity.

Then attack the belief, or more appropriately lack thereof, rather than the individuals who believe that way.

[Rebel America]

As a virgin who only wants to marry once, and have sex with only one other human being, yes.

So, you are, in fact, a virgin.


How extremely unsurprising. Who saw that coming?

Probably you.

[Jumalariik]

You said that we're worse than nazis, we follow a book that is worse than the ones that nazis follow, there is no getting around it.

No, I did say that you follow a worse book than them but I have not argued you are worse people. Christians, like most people, generally are good-natured and care for others. Nazis will always advocate horrendous things. I do not believe you are a monster, just your god.

Ah, so we're misguided people who follow a demon? Even better.

I think that anybody would find reasons to take offense in the Mein Kampf/Bible argument and though I have nothing against you, I do really take offense, whatever intellectual meaning can be found in it is void when you enter the nazis into the equation because they are so stigmatized (as they should be).

[The Batorys]

And it is justified to shame people for picking a different choice for themselves because....

I think it is fine to have sex with others besides your partner (before/after you're with (in a relationship) with them, of course). Having sex with tons of people (by tons I mean 4+) in a small amount of time, in a relationship or not, is absolutely disgraceful.

Why is it disgraceful?

And why is it any of your business?

[Kiruri]

Yes, I am a virgin.

I am not sexist, nor do I view women as objects.

I never said that a women with a sex life is a used good. Perhaps, one with a broad sex life could be.

When I say that, I mean a girl that does more than three in a week, in a relationship or not.

My metaphor did not intend to make women and objects a comparison.

[Vettrera]

No. The gal's/guy's argument about Hitler & Christianity made perfect sense upon explanation actually. And he never compared you specifically to a nazi. But of course, many more than 8 million have been killed in the name of Christianity as well but anyway....
It's not like Christian's don't shit talk Atheists or Muslims (in America) either, so let's not get all high and mighty.

I don't deny that I talk shit about atheists. I do so because all the atheists I know talk shit about Christianity.

OMG. That is so sad. I am so sorry. OMG. Because obviously your personal experiences are indicative of the entire population and you have a good enough sample size to generalize.

Just like I've had enough bad run-ins with people in my community making comments about how people of my color are ruining their city, decreasing their home values, are gangsters, hoodlums, and thugs, and how they don't want their kids sitting next to me in class. But of course, I don't go around assuming every white guy I meet is racist, and just won't like me because I'm black. But I guess we have different views on these sort of things.

[Threlizdun]

You may notice however that while many have criticized your beliefs, you have not been subject to attacks on your person. You did however state that sexual sadists and those belonging to the BDSM community are bad people, in which you did make a personal attack against me and others on this site. I'm afraid that you are the only one who has been arguing holding particular beliefs or interests makes you a terrible person.

I think that calling sexual sadists terrible people is pretty self explanatory......... They enjoy causing pain to others. Same goes for BDSM.

Engaging in consensual sexual activty with people that want to experience minor degrees of pain while ensuring the safety of all parties involved and never pushing anyone outside what they are okay with doing makes me a terrible person? And then letting them do the same thing to me makes me...what, complacent in them being a terrible person?

[Rebel America]

Are you fine with people viewing you in the same light? As if you're only 70% as valuable as you were before each time you've had sex.

So after your first partner, you'll have 70% of the attractiveness that you did when you were a virgin, 49% after the second time, 34.3%, 24%, and so on and so on. (And let's also assume your dating pool shrinks accordingly)


*- arbitrarily selected number

Rebel America never specified whether it was the sheer amount of sex, or the number of partners.

Someone with a long-term, steady partner, gets sex on the regular more than someone who isn't with such, generally. So the monogamous women are actually depreciating more, if it's the amount of sex.

Having a lot of sex with the same partner is fine, have at it.

Having a lot of sex with different people isn't okay. I don't say this meaning that if you do somebody at 18, but another person at 30 is bad, but if you have sex with two different people in the same week.

I guess you can have sex with two different people in the same week if you break up with the first one and have a good first date with the second?

[Vettrera]

No, I did say that you follow a worse book than them but I have not argued you are worse people. Christians, like most people, generally are good-natured and care for others. Nazis will always advocate horrendous things. I do not believe you are a monster, just your god.

Ah, so we're misguided people who follow a demon? Even better.

I think that anybody would find reasons to take offense in the Mein Kampf/Bible argument and though I have nothing against you, I do really take offense, whatever intellectual meaning can be found in it is void when you enter the nazis into the equation because they are so stigmatized (as they should be).

Well, at least you finally understand the argument.

[The Batorys]

You may notice however that while many have criticized your beliefs, you have not been subject to attacks on your person. You did however state that sexual sadists and those belonging to the BDSM community are bad people, in which you did make a personal attack against me and others on this site. I'm afraid that you are the only one who has been arguing holding particular beliefs or interests makes you a terrible person.

I think that calling sexual sadists terrible people is pretty self explanatory......... They enjoy causing pain to others. Same goes for BDSM.

I know a couple sexual sadists.

And a couple sexual masochists.

It's way more complicated than you make out.

And their sexual behavior is consensual. Meaning the people they hurt want to be hurt by them. But only in a specific situation.

It's kinda like if you have an itch, you want to scratch it, but if you bump something and get scratched unexpectedly, it's unwanted and unpleasant.

[Rebel America]

I think it is fine to have sex with others besides your partner (before/after you're with (in a relationship) with them, of course). Having sex with tons of people (by tons I mean 4+) in a small amount of time, in a relationship or not, is absolutely disgraceful.

Why is it disgraceful?

And why is it any of your business?

When did I say that it was my business?

I gave my opinion. I didn't ask for anyone else's.

[Vettrera]

I guess you can have sex with two different people in the same week if you break up with the first one and have a good first date with the second?

That's pretty fucking arbitrary.

[Vettrera]

Why is it disgraceful?

And why is it any of your business?

When did I say that it was my business?

I gave my opinion. I didn't ask for anyone else's.

You argued that shaming them was justified. This thread is about slut shaming.

[Jumalariik]

I think that calling sexual sadists terrible people is pretty self explanatory......... They enjoy causing pain to others. Same goes for BDSM.

Engaging in consensual sexual activty with people that want to experience minor degrees of pain while ensuring the safety of all parties involved and never pushing anyone outside what they are okay with doing makes me a terrible person? And then letting them do the same thing to me makes me...what, complacent in them being a terrible person?

It's literally called sadism, have we come to the point in this world where it's perfectly fine to be labeling oneself a sadist?
"Has the whole world gone crazy?"-Walter Sobchak

[Edward Richtofen]

Limits? Fuck slut shaming all together.