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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:18 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:Ok, so the current sleepover at Kobol's place is:

NST
kobol
Blasveck
Rio de Fuego
Gon
Voltaire
Hitler
Charlie Sheen
Whoever wrote the bible


Yeah, we should probably get back on track, don't want to be accused of thread jacking
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:18 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Those weren't the conditions of thou shalt not kill, those were the hypocritical actions.


It is more of "Thou shalt not kill unless..."


After all, God did order the Israelites to kill all Canaanite men, women, and chilren in that delightful bit that every good Christians should read to their bairns at night.


Then why include the thou shalt not kill, since apparently everyone is fair game.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:19 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Ok, so the current sleepover at Kobol's place is:

NST
kobol
Blasveck
Rio de Fuego
Gon
Voltaire
Hitler
Charlie Sheen
Whoever wrote the bible


Yeah, we should probably get back on track, don't want to be accused of thread jacking


We are not thread jacking. This is very reasonable...
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Postby Blasveck » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:19 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:Ok, so the current sleepover at Kobol's place is:

NST
kobol
Blasveck
Rio de Fuego
Gon
Voltaire
Hitler
Charlie Sheen
Whoever wrote the bible

We need a US President in there somewhere.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:19 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
It is more of "Thou shalt not kill unless..."


After all, God did order the Israelites to kill all Canaanite men, women, and chilren in that delightful bit that every good Christians should read to their bairns at night.


Then why include the thou shalt not kill, since apparently everyone is fair game.


Not everyone, it should read, as many interpret it, "thou shalt not kill thy fellow Israelite lest they offend God, giving thee an overwhelming reason to murder them".

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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:20 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:
Yeah, we should probably get back on track, don't want to be accused of thread jacking



We are not thread jacking. This is very reasonable...

Ah, but I bet the mods would disagree
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:20 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Ok, so the current sleepover at Kobol's place is:

NST
kobol
Blasveck
Rio de Fuego
Gon
Voltaire
Hitler
Charlie Sheen
Whoever wrote the bible

We need a US President in there somewhere.


I'm invited Nixon. He's gullible and likes fine wine.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:20 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Ok, so the current sleepover at Kobol's place is:

NST
kobol
Blasveck
Rio de Fuego
Gon
Voltaire
Hitler
Charlie Sheen
Whoever wrote the bible

We need a US President in there somewhere.

Why not Nixon?
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:20 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:

We are not thread jacking. This is very reasonable...

Ah, but I bet the mods would disagree


How about we go make an F7 thread and do this?
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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:21 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:Ok, so the current sleepover at Kobol's place is:

NST
kobol
Blasveck
Rio de Fuego
Gon
Voltaire
Hitler
Charlie Sheen
Whoever wrote the bible


Better add: random hot people (LBGT&straight), Stephen Hawking, and Satan. I mean, who could have a party be worthwhile without the big man himself?
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:21 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:Ah, but I bet the mods would disagree


How about we go make an F7 thread and do this?


Plan the perfect hell party? of course we should
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:21 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Then why include the thou shalt not kill, since apparently everyone is fair game.


Not everyone, it should read, as many interpret it, "thou shalt not kill thy fellow Israelite lest they offend God, giving thee an overwhelming reason to murder them".


Disrespecting mom and dad is apparently overwhelming reason...
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Postby Blasveck » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:21 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:Ah, but I bet the mods would disagree


How about we go make an F7 thread and do this?

Do it. I want a party in hell, dammit.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:21 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
How about we go make an F7 thread and do this?


Plan the perfect hell party? of course we should


Let me get it up!
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:22 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Not everyone, it should read, as many interpret it, "thou shalt not kill thy fellow Israelite lest they offend God, giving thee an overwhelming reason to murder them".


Disrespecting mom and dad is apparently overwhelming reason...


An extreme version of filial piety is shared by many culture during this period.

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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:22 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:
Plan the perfect hell party? of course we should


Let me get it up!

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Postby Llamalandia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:23 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Llamalandia wrote:Without a God, all morality ultimately becomes entirely relative, so it depends on specific circumstances desires and motivations. But yeah, pretty much. Plus what does permissibility even mean? I mean, technically we can do whatever now, it's just that God's gonna have a word with us in the afterlife.


There is no God
, proving your point.


Which would be an excellent way to end the thread, so let me just ask for proof of this:

Source please.

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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:23 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Disrespecting mom and dad is apparently overwhelming reason...


An extreme version of filial piety is shared by many culture during this period.


And? apparently it is still overwhelming reason, as is some other very minor infractions.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:23 pm

Llamalandia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
There is no God
, proving your point.


Which would be an excellent way to end the thread, so let me just ask for proof of this:

Source please.


We're all sort of past the point of this thread now
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:24 pm

Llamalandia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
There is no God
, proving your point.


Which would be an excellent way to end the thread, so let me just ask for proof of this:

Source please.


Source for what, there being a god or there not being a god?
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:25 pm

Llamalandia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
There is no God
, proving your point.


Which would be an excellent way to end the thread, so let me just ask for proof of this:

Source please.


Source that morality cannot exist without God? Or is the Euthyphro Dilemma completely irrelevent?

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:25 pm

There is no god because god says their is no god, plot twist

Also:
Party in Hell
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of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:25 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Not everyone, it should read, as many interpret it, "thou shalt not kill thy fellow Israelite lest they offend God, giving thee an overwhelming reason to murder them".


Disrespecting mom and dad is apparently overwhelming reason...


Or a woman speaking out of turn to a man.
Edit: Or is that just an Old Testament thing? I've really forgotten everything they taught me at Sunday School...
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Never forget the USG
The USGP
Army: 35,856,000 Infantry Available for Homeworlds Defense (6,754,000 active)
Navy: 4 Strikestar Heavy Capital Warships, 54 Battlestars (Classes: 18 Mercury, 15 Jupiter, 21 Odin), 91 Gunstars
Marine Corps: 936,265 Marines
Expeditionary Forces: 2,573,958 explorers and settlers. 5 Jupiter Class Battlestars to support a fleet of transport and explorer ships.
Special Operations Command: ~12,000 Special Operations Personnel
Every able bodied/minded citizen between the ages of 18 and 35 is a member of the military, militia style. Ship numbers are less than the US Navy and spread over 13 planets.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:26 pm

We should have ended this thread when we reached post 666
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:26 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
An extreme version of filial piety is shared by many culture during this period.


And? apparently it is still overwhelming reason, as is some other very minor infractions.


The Lord is, apperantly, a God of Laws, even if those laws are unreasonable and silly.

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