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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:11 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
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So then god gave the command thou shalt not kill. Now consider the number of living things god has killed. SO again, hypocrite much.


I suppose that Thou Shalt Not Kill is simply condition, one would be allowed to kill in the event of say, self defence, or taking the land away from the aboriginals and claiming it as your own and murdering them en masse.


But said conditions are never stated.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:11 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
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Every hot lesbian is there, as well as probably a lot of hot heterosexual people.


Don't forget the forty-year old virgin who is 500 pounds and wanks off six times an hour.

But since vanity is a sin, anyone who thought they were attractive would be their
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:12 pm

The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
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Mind if I move in? I'll still be paying off my debts from all the sins I committed and will need a place to crash before I start frequenting the Golden Calf Nightclub, which I heard is slammed in the summers.


Dude, just crash in my beach house. Could I afford it? Nope. But hey, I've got eternity to pay off the mortgage.


Hey, thanks man. You know, the guy who wrote the bible is probably there. Considering he lied....wrote the bible about a "loving" god. Maybe, we could find him and see what drugs he did in his cave when he wrote that thing! And we could invite Hitler, Gon and Blasveck over and have a sleepover!
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Postby Blasveck » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:12 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Don't forget the forty-year old virgin who is 500 pounds and wanks off six times an hour.

But since vanity is a sin, anyone who thought they were attractive would be their

Dude, endless orgies.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:13 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Don't forget the forty-year old virgin who is 500 pounds and wanks off six times an hour.

But since vanity is a sin, anyone who thought they were attractive would be their


And since lust is a sin, anyone who thought others were attractive would be there!
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:13 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
Dude, just crash in my beach house. Could I afford it? Nope. But hey, I've got eternity to pay off the mortgage.


Hey, thanks man. You know, the guy who wrote the bible is probably there. Considering he lied....wrote the bible about a "loving" god. Maybe, we could find him and see what drugs he did in his cave when he wrote that thing! And we could invite Hitler, Gon and Blasveck over and have a sleepover!


You can get money easy, because banking is a sin
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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:13 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
Dude, just crash in my beach house. Could I afford it? Nope. But hey, I've got eternity to pay off the mortgage.


Hey, thanks man. You know, the guy who wrote the bible is probably there. Considering he lied....wrote the bible about a "loving" god. Maybe, we could find him and see what drugs he did in his cave when he wrote that thing! And we could invite Hitler, Gon and Blasveck over and have a sleepover!


I personally want to have tea with Voltaire. I'm a bit old fashioned in that sense.
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Marine Corps: 936,265 Marines
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Postby Blasveck » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:13 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
Dude, just crash in my beach house. Could I afford it? Nope. But hey, I've got eternity to pay off the mortgage.


Hey, thanks man. You know, the guy who wrote the bible is probably there. Considering he lied....wrote the bible about a "loving" god. Maybe, we could find him and see what drugs he did in his cave when he wrote that thing! And we could invite Hitler, Gon and Blasveck over and have a sleepover!

Wait, why Hitler? I hear the dude was a bit of a downer.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:13 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
I suppose that Thou Shalt Not Kill is simply condition, one would be allowed to kill in the event of say, self defence, or taking the land away from the aboriginals and claiming it as your own and murdering them en masse.


But said conditions are never stated.


They are, many times:

1. Caught worshipping another religion
2. Caught being a Canaanite
3. Caught committing acts which deserve capital penalty, such as homosexuality and fornication before marriage
4. Caught wearing clothing made of two different types of threads.
5. Caught pissing God off (which, admittedly, isn't very hard to do)
etc.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:14 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Hey, thanks man. You know, the guy who wrote the bible is probably there. Considering he lied....wrote the bible about a "loving" god. Maybe, we could find him and see what drugs he did in his cave when he wrote that thing! And we could invite Hitler, Gon and Blasveck over and have a sleepover!

Wait, why Hitler? I hear the dude was a bit of a downer.


He's actually a bit of a prude, no smoking, no drinking, no meat, etc.
Get out Nazi punks

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:15 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Hey, thanks man. You know, the guy who wrote the bible is probably there. Considering he lied....wrote the bible about a "loving" god. Maybe, we could find him and see what drugs he did in his cave when he wrote that thing! And we could invite Hitler, Gon and Blasveck over and have a sleepover!

Wait, why Hitler? I hear the dude was a bit of a downer.


He's falls asleep early! We could drawn stars of david on him when he falls asleep!
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Postby Blasveck » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:15 pm

The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Hey, thanks man. You know, the guy who wrote the bible is probably there. Considering he lied....wrote the bible about a "loving" god. Maybe, we could find him and see what drugs he did in his cave when he wrote that thing! And we could invite Hitler, Gon and Blasveck over and have a sleepover!


I personally want to have tea with Voltaire. I'm a bit old fashioned in that sense.

I hear Voltaire was quite the party animal in his day.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:15 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
But said conditions are never stated.


They are, many times:

1. Caught worshipping another religion
2. Caught being a Canaanite
3. Caught committing acts which deserve capital penalty, such as homosexuality and fornication before marriage
4. Caught wearing clothing made of two different types of threads.
5. Caught pissing God off (which, admittedly, isn't very hard to do)
etc.


Those weren't the conditions of thou shalt not kill, those were the hypocritical actions.
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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:15 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Hey, thanks man. You know, the guy who wrote the bible is probably there. Considering he lied....wrote the bible about a "loving" god. Maybe, we could find him and see what drugs he did in his cave when he wrote that thing! And we could invite Hitler, Gon and Blasveck over and have a sleepover!

Wait, why Hitler? I hear the dude was a bit of a downer.


Yeah, he's an asshole. We need Charlie Sheen if you want a fun night.
Natum a bellum cinis.

Military Commander of the USGP
Never forget the USG
The USGP
Army: 35,856,000 Infantry Available for Homeworlds Defense (6,754,000 active)
Navy: 4 Strikestar Heavy Capital Warships, 54 Battlestars (Classes: 18 Mercury, 15 Jupiter, 21 Odin), 91 Gunstars
Marine Corps: 936,265 Marines
Expeditionary Forces: 2,573,958 explorers and settlers. 5 Jupiter Class Battlestars to support a fleet of transport and explorer ships.
Special Operations Command: ~12,000 Special Operations Personnel
Every able bodied/minded citizen between the ages of 18 and 35 is a member of the military, militia style. Ship numbers are less than the US Navy and spread over 13 planets.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:15 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
I personally want to have tea with Voltaire. I'm a bit old fashioned in that sense.

I hear Voltaire was quite the party animal in his day.

By Victorian standards
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Postby Schweigen » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:15 pm

It is not a logical assumption to say that morality could only exist with a super natural deity(s) that watches over all things. (i.e. God(s)) Morality is the result of compassion, benevolence, and societies need for a systematic governance. Of course, morality is interpreted in a myriad of ways, yet the logical ones, such as murder and stealing, are fundamental for the distinguishment between a human society, and one of apes. Morality is the result of human problem solving: allowing a cohesive and fast growing community resulting through morals; hence, allowing for a tradition of morality to develop via "natural selection" of human societies.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:16 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
I personally want to have tea with Voltaire. I'm a bit old fashioned in that sense.

I hear Voltaire was quite the party animal in his day.


I hope he's bi....hope he's bi......pleese nonexistent god lol. :p
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of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:16 pm

The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Wait, why Hitler? I hear the dude was a bit of a downer.


Yeah, he's an asshole. We need Charlie Sheen if you want a fun night.

Yeah, let's murder him so that we can chill in hell
Get out Nazi punks

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Postby Blasveck » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:16 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Wait, why Hitler? I hear the dude was a bit of a downer.


He's falls asleep early! We could drawn stars of david on him when he falls asleep!

Totally. Maybe Hitler has a secret acid stash for making up all that crazy shit for the Kampf.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:17 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
They are, many times:

1. Caught worshipping another religion
2. Caught being a Canaanite
3. Caught committing acts which deserve capital penalty, such as homosexuality and fornication before marriage
4. Caught wearing clothing made of two different types of threads.
5. Caught pissing God off (which, admittedly, isn't very hard to do)
etc.


Those weren't the conditions of thou shalt not kill, those were the hypocritical actions.


It is more of "Thou shalt not kill unless..."


After all, God did order the Israelites to kill all Canaanite men, women, and chilren in that delightful bit that every good Christian should read to their bairns at night.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:17 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
He's falls asleep early! We could drawn stars of david on him when he falls asleep!

Totally. Maybe Hitler has a secret acid stash for making up all that crazy shit for the Kampf.

He's actually a bit of a prude, no smoking, no drinking, no meat, etc.
Get out Nazi punks

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:17 pm

Ok, so the current sleepover at Kobol's place is:

NST
kobol
Blasveck
Rio de Fuego
Gon
Voltaire
Hitler
Charlie Sheen
Whoever wrote the bible
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:18 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The Remnants of Kobol wrote:
Yeah, he's an asshole. We need Charlie Sheen if you want a fun night.

Yeah, let's murder him so that we can chill in hell


Why make him wait? He'll get there before us anyway. Besides, I've got to work up my Sin List before I'd feel comfortable making a big presence on the scene.
Natum a bellum cinis.

Military Commander of the USGP
Never forget the USG
The USGP
Army: 35,856,000 Infantry Available for Homeworlds Defense (6,754,000 active)
Navy: 4 Strikestar Heavy Capital Warships, 54 Battlestars (Classes: 18 Mercury, 15 Jupiter, 21 Odin), 91 Gunstars
Marine Corps: 936,265 Marines
Expeditionary Forces: 2,573,958 explorers and settlers. 5 Jupiter Class Battlestars to support a fleet of transport and explorer ships.
Special Operations Command: ~12,000 Special Operations Personnel
Every able bodied/minded citizen between the ages of 18 and 35 is a member of the military, militia style. Ship numbers are less than the US Navy and spread over 13 planets.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:18 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:Ok, so the current sleepover at Kobol's place is:

NST
kobol
Blasveck
Rio de Fuego
Gon
Voltaire
Hitler
Charlie Sheen
Whoever wrote the bible


Also, bring your own beer!
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Postby Blasveck » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:18 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Totally. Maybe Hitler has a secret acid stash for making up all that crazy shit for the Kampf.

He's actually a bit of a prude, no smoking, no drinking, no meat, etc.

That's what he wanted you to think. I can totally see him doing LSD.
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