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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:17 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:Your life, but you are in the minority, not to mention if you consider all of human history or life itself, mostly suffering.

Well again I'm sorry you have such a negative world view. It seems to me that much of human history has been positive with a few seemingly monumental negative periods.

Our history progresswise, but counting every single living things existence adds up to a lot of suffering a lot less fullfillment
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Postby Olthar » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:17 pm

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Vazdania wrote:Yes, certain 'disasters' can be attributed to God.

The 1998 Godzilla movie, for instance.

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Postby Vazdania » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:17 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Yes, certain 'disasters' can be attributed to God.


So then god not only permits evil, god perpetrates it.

Yes. I mean, Torah even states God creates both good and evil.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:18 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:The 1998 Godzilla movie, for instance.

The 2014 Godzilla movie

It was the best Godzilla since the first Godzilla.

...But that's not really a complement.
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Postby Lingang » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:18 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
So then god not only permits evil, god perpetrates it.


Well, he created me. I am evil incarnate when it comes to Christian morality.

So you believe in God? I thought you didn't?
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Postby -Arabiyyah- » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:18 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
-Arabiyyah- wrote:The topic is invalid because there is whith out a question a god.


Except for the fact that their is no god, never has been, and never will be unless retirees continue to deify Fox News. Then we'd have a pantheon of neocons.

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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:18 pm

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Verdo-Releignia wrote:Oh you know, that one where we were enjoying ourselves too much and he flooded the earth.

If that flood happened, there would be geological evidence of it.


A lot of people think it was based on the collapse of a strip of land around the Bosporus strait that flooded the black sea basin
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:18 pm

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Verdo-Releignia wrote:Oh you know, that one where we were enjoying ourselves too much and he flooded the earth.

If that flood happened, there would be geological evidence of it.


Well, you know, maybe it happened and cover the "world", considering that basically meant little more than the area around Canaan to them.
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Postby Verdo-Releignia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:18 pm

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Verdo-Releignia wrote:Oh you know, that one where we were enjoying ourselves too much and he flooded the earth.

If that flood happened, there would be geological evidence of it.

I really need a sarcasm font.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:19 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
So then god not only permits evil, god perpetrates it.

Yes. I mean, Torah even states God creates both good and evil.


So go dperpetrates evils in which people cannot grow from it. In which people are unable to grow from it. So then what's the point.
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:19 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Well again I'm sorry you have such a negative world view. It seems to me that much of human history has been positive with a few seemingly monumental negative periods.

Our history progresswise, but counting every single living things existence adds up to a lot of suffering a lot less fullfillment

Yet again I'm sorry you have such a negative view of things, but life is mostly positive with a few negative things.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:19 pm

-Arabiyyah- wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Except for the fact that their is no god, never has been, and never will be unless retirees continue to deify Fox News. Then we'd have a pantheon of neocons.

All Media Time Warner Fox Walt Disney are doing the bidding of Shaitan.


.....and Bill O'Reilly is their prophet! With his trust sidekick, Hannity!
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:19 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Verdo-Releignia wrote:Oh you know, that one where we were enjoying ourselves too much and he flooded the earth.

If that flood happened, there would be geological evidence of it.

God could have hid or removed the evidence.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:20 pm

Olthar wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:The 1998 Godzilla movie, for instance.

THAT BASTARD! >:O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mFtG8SSHto
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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:20 pm

-Arabiyyah- wrote:The topic is invalid because there is whith out a question a god.


Ah, but now we need to discuss which one? I'm personally hoping for an Aphrodite.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:20 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:Our history progresswise, but counting every single living things existence adds up to a lot of suffering a lot less fullfillment

Yet again I'm sorry you have such a negative view of things, but life is mostly positive with a few negative things.


That is unrealistic. More bad happens then good. More people fail than succeed, naturally. 99% of all species are extinct, for example.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:20 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:Our history progresswise, but counting every single living things existence adds up to a lot of suffering a lot less fullfillment

Yet again I'm sorry you have such a negative view of things, but life is mostly positive with a few negative things.

I'm sure everything is rainbows and unicorns for you, because of the glorious love God bathes you in. :p
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Postby Verdo-Releignia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:20 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Geilinor wrote:If that flood happened, there would be geological evidence of it.

God could have hid or removed the evidence.

Once again, I forgot Sarcasm just doesn't translate through the computer. My apologies.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:20 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:Our history progresswise, but counting every single living things existence adds up to a lot of suffering a lot less fullfillment

Yet again I'm sorry you have such a negative view of things, but life is mostly positive with a few negative things.


You don't seem to understand, It is now for some people. But for the vast majority of human history people's lives were miserable and short. Keep in mind how long humanity existed as hunter gatherers.
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Postby -Arabiyyah- » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:20 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
-Arabiyyah- wrote:All Media Time Warner Fox Walt Disney are doing the bidding of Shaitan.


.....and Bill O'Reilly is their prophet! With his trust sidekick, Hannity!


What ever there all going to Hell. But any one who says there is no god is ignorant and if they say there is no god they should say but Allah.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:21 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Geilinor wrote:If that flood happened, there would be geological evidence of it.

God could have hid or removed the evidence.

How and why?
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:21 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Geilinor wrote:If that flood happened, there would be geological evidence of it.

God could have hid or removed the evidence.


If god didn't like what humans were doing, why didn't he just kill the people doing the "evil" instead of killing the innocent. Unless babies and other animals are somehow doing evil.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:21 pm

-Arabiyyah- wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Except for the fact that their is no god, never has been, and never will be unless retirees continue to deify Fox News. Then we'd have a pantheon of neocons.

All Media Time Warner Fox Walt Disney are doing the bidding of Shaitan.

But Rand Al'Thor killed him in the first book...
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:21 pm

-Arabiyyah- wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
.....and Bill O'Reilly is their prophet! With his trust sidekick, Hannity!


What ever there all going to Hell. But any one who says there is no god is ignorant and if they say there is no god they should say but Allah.

There is no God... but ME! :p
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Postby Verdo-Releignia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:22 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:God could have hid or removed the evidence.


If god didn't like what humans were doing, why didn't he just kill the people doing the "evil" instead of killing the innocent. Unless babies and other animals are somehow doing evil.

Because fuck it everyone within a planetary radius has been infected with Satanism.
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