Only Want to Date White Girls, is this Racist?

[Conserative Morality]

Is it sexist to only want to date women?

Are you really comparing sex and race?

Really?

Are we going there? Of all the dark alleys to go down?

[MERIZoC]

No because it's not sexist to exclude sexes because of your sexual orientation?

On the other hand, if you meet the perfect girl/man and you can't date him/her because they're black or they're not the race you want them to be...that's racist.

If you're not attracted to a certain race then there's no problem. Same as if you're not attracted to a certain gender.

Exactly. Unless your reason for not dating someone of a different race is "purity of bloodline" or some shit like that, you're fine.

[Mavorpen]

If you're not attracted to a certain race then there's no problem. Same as if you're not attracted to a certain gender.

Exactly. Unless your reason for not dating someone of a different race is "purity of bloodline" or some shit like that, you're fine.

No.

Is it sexist for gay guys to only want to date guys?

No?

Same basic principle. You don't exactly get to pick and chose who you're sexually attracted to. You just don't.

The principles aren't the same. Not even remotely. See, it's true you can't pick and choose who you're sexually attracted to, but this doesn't in any way shape or form automatically rule out racism. After all, it's not like racists choose to be that way. It typically happens because they were brought up to be that way.

And the same is largely true for people who ONLY date people of a certain race. We know that in many places there is a cultural perception of beauty that is ground in racism. Lighter skin=prettier being one of them. It's reached the point where even a lot of blacks have subscribed to this belief. It's gotten to the point where in Nigeria, 77% of black women use bleaching products.

This kind of shit doesn't influence your sexual orientation. You don't become gay by looking at gay porn all day. You can, however, be coaxed into the belief that certain characteristics that are perceived to belong to certain races are inherently better than others.

[Kiruri]

Exactly. Unless your reason for not dating someone of a different race is "purity of bloodline" or some shit like that, you're fine.

No.

The principles aren't the same. Not even remotely. See, it's true you can't pick and choose who you're sexually attracted to, but this doesn't in any way shape or form automatically rule out racism. After all, it's not like racists choose to be that way. It typically happens because they were brought up to be that way.

And the same is largely true for people who ONLY date people of a certain race. We know that in many places there is a cultural perception of beauty that is ground in racism. Lighter skin=prettier being one of them. It's reached the point where even a lot of blacks have subscribed to this belief. It's gotten to the point where in Nigeria, 77% of black women use bleaching products.

This kind of shit doesn't influence your sexual orientation. You don't become gay by looking at gay porn all day. You can, however, be coaxed into the belief that certain characteristics that are perceived to belong to certain races are inherently better than others.

Okay, sure.. it technically is racist. Not that it matters. If I don't feel attraction toward certain characteristics (whatever they may be), then so be it. It's not wrong or anything. It shouldn't be condemned.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No.

Okay, sure.. it technically is racist. Not that it matters. If I don't feel attraction toward certain characteristics (whatever they may be), then so be it. It's not wrong or anything. It shouldn't be condemned.

Well, it's not so much about THAT though.

See, I agree with you on not being attracted. However, if you want to date someone, AND THE ONLY REASON YOU HAVE is "she's black, I can't date her" then there's some racism behind your thoughts.

Notice how it's phrased. One thing is "I don't feel attracted to her" and another is "I will never touch a woman of X skin color"

[Kiruri]

Okay, sure.. it technically is racist. Not that it matters. If I don't feel attraction toward certain characteristics (whatever they may be), then so be it. It's not wrong or anything. It shouldn't be condemned.

Well, it's not so much about THAT though.

See, I agree with you on not being attracted. However, if you want to date someone, AND THE ONLY REASON YOU HAVE is "she's black, I can't date her" then there's some racism behind your thoughts.

Notice how it's phrased. One thing is "I don't feel attracted to her" and another is "I will never touch a woman of X skin color"

Oh, okay.. well, in that case I do agree with you. Although, there is nothing wrong in saying "I am generally not attracted to X characteristic". In my case, it's true. I am generally not attracted to some outward characteristics, but that's not to say that that one thing I don't feel attraction toward will be a complete deal-breaker.

[Mavorpen]

No.

Okay, sure.. it technically is racist. Not that it matters. If I don't feel attraction toward certain characteristics (whatever they may be), then so be it. It's not wrong or anything. It shouldn't be condemned.

I don't care about what you, on a personal level, find attractive. I care about the general perception of beauty that has roots in racist beliefs that trace back to slavery and periods of mass colonialism.

[Esternial]

Sort of, perhaps. It's a different kind of racism when you compare it to actively hating a certain race.

It's passive, based on what physical characteristics you feel most attracted to. One's skin color would be subjected to your preferences as much as any other physical attribute.

Only because there's so much history regarding discrimination based on skin color does the subject get a hint of controversy. Feeling a greater attraction towards white women is on the same level as feeling a greater attraction towards blondes. Only due to the historical and societal baggage does the aspect of one's skin color become more loaded.

It follows a different pattern of thought than racism. That being said, it's possible that some DO actually base their preferences on actual racism.

I personally feel a greater attraction to white women, more precisely the type of skin tone redheads often have.

Why? Fuck would I know. I dig redheads.

[Kiruri]

Okay, sure.. it technically is racist. Not that it matters. If I don't feel attraction toward certain characteristics (whatever they may be), then so be it. It's not wrong or anything. It shouldn't be condemned.

I don't care about what you, on a personal level, find attractive. I care about the general perception of beauty that has roots in racist beliefs that trace back to slavery and periods of mass colonialism.

Oh, okay.. well, in that case I do agree with you. Although, there is nothing wrong in saying "I am generally not attracted to X characteristic". In my case, it's true. I am generally not attracted to some outward characteristics, but that's not to say that that one thing I don't feel attraction toward will be a complete deal-breaker.

[Dakini]

No because it's not sexist to exclude sexes because of your sexual orientation?

On the other hand, if you meet the perfect girl/man and you can't date him/her because they're black or they're not the race you want them to be...that's racist.

If you're not attracted to a certain race then there's no problem. Same as if you're not attracted to a certain gender.

No it's not. Race is a social construct and gender is an inherent part of a person.

[Norstal]

No because it's not sexist to exclude sexes because of your sexual orientation?

On the other hand, if you meet the perfect girl/man and you can't date him/her because they're black or they're not the race you want them to be...that's racist.

If you're not attracted to a certain race then there's no problem. Same as if you're not attracted to a certain gender.

Non-attraction != never ever date. I know the majority of NSG don't go outside, but shit, people do go on dates with people they don't find attractive at first glance. Because that's the point of dates. To get to know more about them.

I'm not attracted to black girls. But if there's a black girl out there who has the same interests as I do and matches me perfectly, why would my non-attraction to her skin stop me? There's a lot of other things that makes a person attractive.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If you're not attracted to a certain race then there's no problem. Same as if you're not attracted to a certain gender.

Non-attraction != never ever date. I know the majority of NSG don't go outside, but shit, people do go on dates with people they don't find attractive at first glance. Because that's the point of dates. To get to know more about them.

I'm not attracted to black girls. But if there's a black girl out there who has the same interests as I do and matches me perfectly, why would my non-attraction to her skin stop me? There's a lot of other things that makes a person attractive.

I certainly haven't let race stop me from dating women. I prefer girls with similar socio-cultural backgrounds from my own; but race is something I don't see as relevant in the slightest to be honest.

[Aurora Novus]

It's only racist in the most inane, nonsensical "It's discriminatory" sense. No different than only being attracted to people of a certain sex, or people of a certain age range. By any realistic sense, by any sense that actually maters, no, it's not racist.

[Aurora Novus]

If you're not attracted to a certain race then there's no problem. Same as if you're not attracted to a certain gender.

No it's not. Race is a social construct and gender is an inherent part of a person.

And skin colour/body structure is an inherent part of a person to. And under these circumstances, that's what people mean when discussing race. They're discussing physical qualities of people that they do or do not find attractive.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's extremely petty to complain that someone not being attracted to you because of your "race" is racist.

[Geilinor]

No it's not. Race is a social construct and gender is an inherent part of a person.

And skin colour/body structure is an inherent part of a person to. And under these circumstances, that's what people mean when discussing race. They're discussing physical qualities of people that they do or do not find attractive.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's extremely petty to complain that someone not being attracted to you because of your "race" is racist.

"I prefer to date X race" is very different from "I'll never date a member of X race".

[Aurora Novus]

And skin colour/body structure is an inherent part of a person to. And under these circumstances, that's what people mean when discussing race. They're discussing physical qualities of people that they do or do not find attractive.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's extremely petty to complain that someone not being attracted to you because of your "race" is racist.

"I prefer to date X race" is very different from "I'll never date a member of X race".

I see no problem with either. The latter you could say is naive and inane, but it's no worse than saying "I'll never date someone who doesn't meet X criteria." Which people do...all the time, especially with physical appearance.

[Geilinor]

"I prefer to date X race" is very different from "I'll never date a member of X race".

I see no problem with either. The latter you could say is naive and inane, but it's no worse than saying "I'll never date someone who doesn't meet X criteria." Which people do...all the time, especially with physical appearance.

People doing it all the time doesn't make it less racist.

[Aurora Novus]

I see no problem with either. The latter you could say is naive and inane, but it's no worse than saying "I'll never date someone who doesn't meet X criteria." Which people do...all the time, especially with physical appearance.

People doing it all the time doesn't make it less racist.

It's only racist, as I said, by the most inane definitions. In the same way that "I'll never date someone of the same sex" is sexist. Complaining about that is an indictment of yourself, not of those making such statements. It makes you seem petty and, honestly, that you have a distorted sense of entitlement that people ought to be willing to date you, regardless of your phsyical appearance. Get real.

By any reasonable definition of racism, no, it's not racist.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's only racist in the most inane, nonsensical "It's discriminatory" sense. No different than only being attracted to people of a certain sex, or people of a certain age range. By any realistic sense, by any sense that actually maters, no, it's not racist.

Well, let's analyze this with you, given you have a penchant to say the most inane things (not sure if it is because you're a teenager or because you're immature).

Not liking someone isn't the same as saying you will never date someone of X categories that have nothing to do with livability such as skin color. WHen you say you will NEVER date someone of X color you are excluding every other skin color in existence except for that one; why? It's not a preference, and if it is is grounded in racism because you think all X women are Y.

To have a preference isn't racist, it's simply a preference, it doesn't exclude anyone. To exclude a particular group of women out of your dating options can be discriminatory, but it doesn't need to be if you just happen to chase more those who attract you. To actively exclude a pool of women however is discriminatory, and if it is by skin color is racist.

In Spanish we say "never say 'I will never drink out of that water'" and it rings a bell on this situation.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

People doing it all the time doesn't make it less racist.

It's only racist, as I said, by the most inane definitions. In the same way that "I'll never date someone of the same sex" is sexist. Complaining about that is an indictment of yourself, not of those making such statements. It makes you seem petty and, honestly, that you have a distorted sense of entitlement that people ought to be willing to date you, regardless of your phsyical appearance. Get real.

By any reasonable definition of racism, no, it's not racist.

Difference: sexual orientation determines who you fuck universally (men or women). It doesn't determine who you find attractive.

As a heterosexual who doesn't give a fuck about race I only care about two things when looking/chasing for a woman to have sex with:

- Are they female?
- Can they fuck?

Their race, background, and so on is irrelevant. I am looking to have sex, not to have my preferences catered to. Now, if it was for a relationship I'd see more things like background, family, and so forth, but even then race is irrelevant in my opinion, and if someone says "I can't date you because you're X" then that's racist, is not "I don't like you" is "I can't date you".

[Aurora Novus]

Well, let's analyze this with you, given you have a penchant to say the most inane things (not sure if it is because you're a teenager or because you're immature).

Not liking someone isn't the same as saying you will never date someone of X categories that have nothing to do with livability such as skin color. WHen you say you will NEVER date someone of X color you are excluding every other skin color in existence except for that one; why? It's not a preference, and if it is is grounded in racism because you think all X women are Y.

No, it's literally preference, and nothing to do with racism. It's saying "I'm not attracted to X features, therefore, I will never date someone with X features, because I only want to date people I find attractive." I don't like large breasts. In fact, I find them very unnatractive. They are distinctly a turn off to me. Now as a matter of habit I don't like to say "never", as I don't know what the future will hold, but for all intents and purposes, I will never date a woman with large breats. Skin colour is no different in this regard. It's a matter of identifying your attractions, and choosing to not date outside of those attractions.

To have a preference isn't racist, it's simply a preference, it doesn't exclude anyone. To exclude a particular group of women out of your dating options can be discriminatory, but it doesn't need to be if you just happen to chase more those who attract you. To actively exclude a pool of women however is discriminatory, and if it is by skin color is racist.

Again, only by the most inane definitions of racism. "It's discriminatory" is a ridiculous way to define racism, and this context is an exact reason for why that is. You are not entitled to be dated by me. I am free to choose whom I will and will not date, and you are only deserving of dating me if I so choose. What you're doing is complaining that certain people exclude certain other people from their potential dating pool. It is the most childish and self-absorbed complaint you could make, good lord.

[Aurora Novus]

Difference: sexual orientation determines who you fuck universally (men or women). It doesn't determine who you find attractive.

And this is relevant to my point...how?

As a heterosexual who doesn't give a fuck about race I only care about two things when looking/chasing for a woman to have sex with:

- Are they female?
- Can they fuck?

Their race, background, and so on is irrelevant. I am looking to have sex, not to have my preferences catered to. Now, if it was for a relationship I'd see more things like background, family, and so forth, but even then race is irrelevant in my opinion, and if someone says "I can't date you because you're X" then that's racist, is not "I don't like you" is "I can't date you".

No, it's "I refuse to date you, because I don't like X." Which there is, again, nothing wrong with that (outside of it perhaps being a petty reason). It's nice that you have certain standards you look for when wanting to date someone, or sleep with them, but not everyone shares your desires and standards. And there's nothing wrong with that. To complain about that is a sign of an entitlement complex. It's ridiculous. It's like the equivalent of "nice guys" complaining about women not wanting to date them. "What? You don't find certain qualities I possess attractive, and don't want to date me as a result? Fuck you, you're scum for not wanting to date me! There's something wrong with you!" Grow up.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well, let's analyze this with you, given you have a penchant to say the most inane things (not sure if it is because you're a teenager or because you're immature).

Not liking someone isn't the same as saying you will never date someone of X categories that have nothing to do with livability such as skin color. WHen you say you will NEVER date someone of X color you are excluding every other skin color in existence except for that one; why? It's not a preference, and if it is is grounded in racism because you think all X women are Y.

1. No, it's literally preference, and nothing to do with racism. It's saying "I'm not attracted to X features, therefore, I will never date someone with X features, because I only want to date people I find attractive." I don't like large breasts. In fact, I find them very unnatractive. They are distinctly a turn off to me. Now as a matter of habit I don't like to say "never", as I don't know what the future will hold, but for all intents and purposes, I will never date a woman with large breats. Skin colour is no different in this regard. It's a matter of identifying your attractions, and choosing to not date outside of those attractions.

To have a preference isn't racist, it's simply a preference, it doesn't exclude anyone. To exclude a particular group of women out of your dating options can be discriminatory, but it doesn't need to be if you just happen to chase more those who attract you. To actively exclude a pool of women however is discriminatory, and if it is by skin color is racist.

2. Again, only by the most inane definitions of racism. "It's discriminatory" is a ridiculous way to define racism, and this context is an exact reason for why that is. You are not entitled to be dated by me. I am free to choose whom I will and will not date, and you are only deserving of dating me if I so choose. What you're doing is complaining that certain people exclude certain other people from their potential dating pool. It is the most childish and self-absorbed complaint you could make, good lord.

And like I said, attractions don't necessarily have to be racists. Also, how do you know if you won't end up falling in love with a woman who actually has big breasts?! Like you said, you have no clue what's going to happen. However, you can make statements that are grounded in racism, which is why "I can't date black women because..." any other given option as "opposed to X race" is racist because it is grounded in fucking racism.

2. First of all, stop the fucking aggressiveness. I can probably say worse than what you have said to me; but I won't because I have some decorum. Secondly, I am a man, how the fuck am I being self-absorbed when it has fuck all to do with me?! If you were paying attention you would stop making vapid assumptions yourself and realize that I'm not fucking talking about myself. Also, nobody ever said someone is ENTITLED to; that's the most ridiculous assumption I have heard you say so far to begin with. I am not saying you are entitled to date anyone, what I am saying is that the statement "I will never date X because Y" is ground in assumptions about someone's skin color when it comes to skin color and therefore is racist as fuck because the opinion of one skin color not being dateable is grounded in fucking racism. Good God I can't believe you can't process that.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, it's "I refuse to date you, because I don't like X." Which there is, again, nothing wrong with that (outside of it perhaps being a petty reason). It's nice that you have certain standards you look for when wanting to date someone, or sleep with them, but not everyone shares your desires and standards. And there's nothing wrong with that. To complain about that is a sign of an entitlement complex. It's ridiculous. It's like the equivalent of "nice guys" complaining about women not wanting to date them. "What? You don't find certain qualities I possess attractive, and don't want to date me as a result? Fuck you, you're scum for not wanting to date me! There's something wrong with you!" Grow up.

Okay, here's the thing (and you're pissing me off already with your "grow up"; we're discussing shit, you don't need to attack me, but I am keeping a shred of intellect to not rip you to pieces and get warned):

A refusal to date IS NOT, IN AND OF ITSELF racist. An INABILITY TO DATE, BECAUSE YOU THINK A PERSON WHO IS X COLOR OF SKIN IS ICKY AND SHITTY IS RACIST. Do you get it, do you need me to send smoke signals to your house, or do you need me to send you fucking morse code along with mathematical equations so you can get the fucking fact straight?!

Is not entitlement, it is a mentality ground in racism is what it is, and it doesn't make you a shitty individual for it for having a preference; but it is something that is to note when people come up with THAT kind of excuse to not date someone as to how other people will look at you. That if you say "black skin is icky!" your grounding is based on fucking racism.

Personally I just don't chase women who have an issue with me being Latino like any fucking regular person would; however, when I hear their reasons I can tell they're fucking racist. I never speak to them again because they're fucking racist. That's. The. Fucking. Point. That their logic is grounded in racism, not that they don't like me, I could give a fuck less if they like me or not because you know what? You may think "oh he's so self-entitled" but no, I just think about the issue but in reality it doesn't affect me and here's the reason why: for every woman I have ever not dated, I've been told by other women from different races (including their own) that they would. So no entitlement here, bud.

Perhaps is the fact that you can't recognize the fact that my thinking about an issue doesn't depend on my ability to fuck and you pretend to know me SO well that you think you can tell me how childish I am?! Or perhaps is the fact that you think you know about my sexual and dating life so much that you need to chirp in with your bullshit assumptions that I'm being childish, without knowing I have dated Latinas, White, Black, and I've chased Asian women and they have all said I'm pretty dateable or dated them altogether?! I don't know, but stop making bullshit assumptions about my character when you don't know who the fuck you're talking with.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

The real question is if I only want to date racists, am I racist?