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Postby Zaldakki » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:59 am

I think a lot of it has to do with exposure to certain races. Most of my life I've been going to private school with mainly white people. But sophomore year, I went to public school where there were tons of minorities. I didn't really fit in at all there, because I was really culture shocked because it was really ghetto. But despite my quietness and weirdness, girls kept hitting on me and I almost had sex with a few. That hasn't happened at the private school I'm at right now, even though I actually fit in socially and culturally (but not racially it seems).

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:02 am

Zaldakki wrote:I think a lot of it has to do with exposure to certain races. Most of my life I've been going to private school with mainly white people. But sophomore year, I went to public school where there were tons of minorities. I didn't really fit in at all there, because I was really culture shocked because it was really ghetto. But despite my quietness and weirdness, girls kept hitting on me and I almost had sex with a few. That hasn't happened at the private school I'm at right now, even though I actually fit in socially and culturally (but not racially it seems).


I had the same issue at my school.

I was a private school kid, but got used to dealing with public school peers. It did help me out because I can deal with different cultures.
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Postby The Re-Frisivisiaing » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:05 am

It's certainly a really strange box to put yourself in, surely one you won't stay in.
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Postby Wikipedia and Universe » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:55 am

Infected Mushroom, you are right, I jumped the gun by attacking the entire OP on the basis of the thread title. Still, people in this thread can't seem to agree on what exactly it is they're arguing for or against, and my point still holds regarding the difference between what the OP meant and what the title implies.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:58 am

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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:17 am

The Re-Frisivisiaing wrote:It's certainly a really strange box to put yourself in, surely one you won't stay in.

So to speak, given the thread's subject. ;)
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Postby Vissegaard » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:49 am

I don´t recognize races nor racism, so it is perfectly OK.
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Postby Viritica » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:50 am

Vissegaard wrote:I don´t recognize races nor racism, so it is perfectly OK.

Uh, what do you mean you don't recognize racism?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:09 pm

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Vissegaard wrote:I don´t recognize races nor racism, so it is perfectly OK.

Uh, what do you mean you don't recognize racism?

Or even race, for that matter? Even if you think it's purely a social construct, social constructs are still very much a reality.
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Postby Vissegaard » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:13 pm

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Viritica wrote:Uh, what do you mean you don't recognize racism?

Or even race, for that matter? Even if you think it's purely a social construct, social constructs are still very much a reality.

I mean that I segregate people not by race, but more by if I like them or not. And racism is really just like that, only the so-called racists are somehow liking white/yellow/purple-with-green-dots skin. Thus, racism is just the matter of preference and is completely normal, at last on the level of sexual affection. But would be also okay anywhere else, ´till it becomes counterproductive and destructive.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:11 pm

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Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Sometimes gringos make me feel much worse about being white than fellow white Brazilians who e.g. complain of our new black woman day as racist.

This is a fucking score.

That's an interesting debate. I don't think Argentines and White brazilians complain about people being black, but about the darker skinned people being much more involved in criminal activities. I mean, it isn't racist to say: I want less Paraguayans and Bolivians in Argentina.


I could not resist to comment.

When it comes to Argentina or Brazil those what you call darker criminals are usually small time crooks while the so called non-dark people are the ones raiding the national treasury . :o :lol:
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Postby Calimera II » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:12 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Calimera II wrote:That's an interesting debate. I don't think Argentines and White brazilians complain about people being black, but about the darker skinned people being much more involved in criminal activities. I mean, it isn't racist to say: I want less Paraguayans and Bolivians in Argentina.


I could not resist to comment.

When it comes to Argentina or Brazil those what you call darker criminals are usually small time crooks while the so called non-dark people are the ones raiding the national treasury . :o :lol:

Did I raid tbe national treasury then? :p

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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:33 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Zaldakki wrote:So I was defending this one innocent girl, and look what this guy on there said about me.

Sometimes gringos make me feel much worse about being white than fellow white Brazilians who e.g. complain of our new black woman day as racist.

This is a fucking score.


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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:37 pm

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Dakini wrote:Just fyi, you don't need to put up with the racist assholes on ask.fm.

So I was defending this one innocent girl, and look what this guy on there said about me.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:08 pm

Mavorpen wrote:I haven't read anything concerning that. Personally, I would say that with women, it's more than likely the ones who are famous that influences it. For example, the singer Dencia that sells a skin cream:

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Frankly, I think she looks better with darker skin.

Yeah, it's not like she was "more hardly" beautiful or sexy. In my opinion she was.

I don't think the lighter color is off, though. But it's bad because it's sure as fuck hell unhealthy.
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Postby Kiruri » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:36 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I haven't read anything concerning that. Personally, I would say that with women, it's more than likely the ones who are famous that influences it. For example, the singer Dencia that sells a skin cream:

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Frankly, I think she looks better with darker skin.

Yeah, it's not like she was "more hardly" beautiful or sexy. In my opinion she was.

I don't think the lighter color is off, though. But it's bad because it's sure as fuck hell unhealthy.
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Hmm... this has got me thinking... what skin color am I? Would anyone like to comment? I consider myself white, but IDK. I'm the guy in my flag. Just curious
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Postby Margno » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:43 pm

Lots of people do that OP, I wouldn't freak out about it. At some level, I'm sure it's a consequence of racism (a racist society that gets in everyone's heads and makes them see everything in terms of race,) but that it's not like it's an act of personal racism on your part.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:58 pm

Kiruri wrote:Hmm... this has got me thinking... what skin color am I? Would anyone like to comment? I consider myself white, but IDK. I'm the guy in my flag. Just curious

I think I'm about one to two shades lighter than you depending on season...

In my region, you are comfortably branco claro (lighter though still a bit "seasoned" white), while I am very near outright branquelo (whitey), only not branco pálido (pale) because I actually seem to have a skin tone that is not too light, though it is because of the skin's blood vessel distribution rather than the melanin itself (for you to be brown speaking of skin color terms, imho, you need to press your skin hard in a point and when it returns to normal it isn't an extremely pale color there; mine is the slightest yellow, brown skin is more like weak milk coffee by the very least). xP

We're both surely white in Latin American standards and I'd guess so in European ones too (don't really know how people react to race in these parts where people get surprised when they see somebody very dark-haired around), and the lightest shade of brown in North American standards. The last one just because we're from mixed-race third world countries, because if we were southern Europeans with the exact same looks they'd call us white ethnics. :P
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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:14 pm

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Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Yeah, it's not like she was "more hardly" beautiful or sexy. In my opinion she was.

I don't think the lighter color is off, though. But it's bad because it's sure as fuck hell unhealthy.

I'm sure as fuck that of all Indigenous populations of the originally inhabited continents (count how many America[s] you want, to me it's either 1 or 3), only the Indigenous peoples of Europe have pink cheeks and reddish lips until they're like 7-10, or their men have beards with a third of hair in there colored ginger. Also, my skin is not brown (brown to me means at least a "nutty" color). I'm darker than a lot of Japanese people, but lighter than a lot of southern Europeans.


Hmm... this has got me thinking... what skin color am I? Would anyone like to comment? I consider myself white, but IDK. I'm the guy in my flag. Just curious


Honestly, at a glance, I would say that you aren't white. But given what you've shared with me about your ancestry (I believe you said white Hispanic ancestry), you could probably pass as an Italian or Portuguese.
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Postby Tahar Joblis » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:51 pm

Margno wrote:Lots of people do that OP, I wouldn't freak out about it. At some level, I'm sure it's a consequence of racism (a racist society that gets in everyone's heads and makes them see everything in terms of race,) but that it's not like it's an act of personal racism on your part.

I think it's a very personal form of racism.

And what you really should do is give yourself a fair chance to become attracted to someone who isn't the right race. Try keeping an open mind. If you never find someone who's attractive who isn't [INSERT PHENOTYPE HERE], well, those are the breaks. One thing to help frame your perspective is to think about the least attractive person of your preferred race that you've dated. Or were willing to date. And compare people of other races to that person.

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Wikipedia and Universe wrote:Infected Mushroom, you are right, I jumped the gun by attacking the entire OP on the basis of the thread title. Still, people in this thread can't seem to agree on what exactly it is they're arguing for or against, and my point still holds regarding the difference between what the OP meant and what the title implies.


i see... yeah i guess...

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:24 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I'll pretty much date anyone that likes science and anime/manga.

I'm not particularly picky.


I wonder if another thing that drives people off of dating other races is the fact that racism is still alive and well in America?

I mean, I have heard women say "I won't date you because my parents/family/social circle wouldn't approve of it because they think you'd just be with me for my citizenship or something, given you're Latino".


It can be a factor. My parents don't actually have a problem with me dating black guys, but the few times I have tried dating black guys, they got excessively paranoid about it, and it was kind of annoying.

A more serious problem is the harassment from strangers if you happen to live in a racist area or walk through the wrong neighborhood. When I was in college, I had a black boyfriend, and he came to visit me in Des Moines. A black woman literally ran us off the road so she could yell at us through the window about how we didn't belong together. A white gas station attendant ran out of the gas station to write down our license plate number, and when my boyfriend said it was racist, the guy said black people had been stealing his gas. This was just within a week or two. I can understand if someone decides they don't want to put up with that crap the rest of their life.

And then there is the economic side of race issues... Middle class people usually don't want to date someone who is dirt poor, and if there is a correlation between race and economic status, that makes interracial relationships less common.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:35 am

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I wonder if another thing that drives people off of dating other races is the fact that racism is still alive and well in America?

I mean, I have heard women say "I won't date you because my parents/family/social circle wouldn't approve of it because they think you'd just be with me for my citizenship or something, given you're Latino".


It can be a factor. My parents don't actually have a problem with me dating black guys, but the few times I have tried dating black guys, they got excessively paranoid about it, and it was kind of annoying.

A more serious problem is the harassment from strangers if you happen to live in a racist area or walk through the wrong neighborhood. When I was in college, I had a black boyfriend, and he came to visit me in Des Moines. A black woman literally ran us off the road so she could yell at us through the window about how we didn't belong together. A white gas station attendant ran out of the gas station to write down our license plate number, and when my boyfriend said it was racist, the guy said black people had been stealing his gas. This was just within a week or two. I can understand if someone decides they don't want to put up with that crap the rest of their life.

And then there is the economic side of race issues... Middle class people usually don't want to date someone who is dirt poor, and if there is a correlation between race and economic status, that makes interracial relationships less common.


I've somewhat experienced that myself. The interracial dating thing with parents I mean. My parents say they're okay with me dating outside Latinas, but when I actually date someone out of my race they tell me that our backgrounds may be in conflict.

And oh yes, I've heard about the harassment. Honestly, there's so much that can be taken. Also, it's kind of odd that minorities also are into that wagon, to me, to say that two minorities or a white and a minority don't belong together.
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Soldati senza confini wrote:I've somewhat experienced that myself. The interracial dating thing with parents I mean. My parents say they're okay with me dating outside Latinas, but when I actually date someone out of my race they tell me that our backgrounds may be in conflict.

And oh yes, I've heard about the harassment. Honestly, there's so much that can be taken. Also, it's kind of odd that minorities also are into that wagon, to me, to say that two minorities or a white and a minority don't belong together.

These people are ridiculous. They lost their fight in the 1960s, the issue should be so removed and buried that it's now time for society to accept same-sex couples. Time for them to fucking move on.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:46 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:These people are ridiculous. They lost their fight in the 1960s, the issue should be so removed and buried that it's now time for society to accept same-sex couples. Time for them to fucking move on.


:meh:

I am not sure why same-sex couples came into the fray, but okay...

I mean, you may say that they lost their fight, but this isn't just white people determining who should minorities/white people should marry or even date, sometimes is straight up minorities.

I know even of Latinos who talk about someone "being a picky person" and worse simply because some of us are also comfortable with dating outside Latinos. Their logic is pretty much "what do X race has that we don't?"
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