Only Want to Date White Girls, is this Racist?

[United Marxist Nations]

In that instance, it of course is racism, but I never mentioned anything like that though. However, it is ordinary for those with light skin to be attracted to others with light skin, simply because people find those that look similarly to them more attractive.

And again, I have never denied this, so I don't see how this in any way addresses my argument.

You did though, you said that "the societal belief that light skin=more attractive" was based in racism. It is not, it is simply that we live in a society where the majority have light skin. Also, it has something to do with class, as lighter skin indicated less exposure to the sun (i.e. that one worked outside doing menial labor less).

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Man, that's a name for them then, isn't it?

Wow, not that's embarrassing. Pale skin.

Idk, this whole debate between lightskin V. Darkskin in the black community seems strange to me, but it doesn't really effect those outside the community when we're talking about race issues in dating

You'd be surprised.

[Cupola]

I only want to date myself.

That's selfish. Dontcha know? Everyone belongs to everyone else!

[Mavorpen]

You did though, you said that "the societal belief that light skin=more attractive" was based in racism.

Yes it is.

It is not, it is simply that we live in a society where the majority have light skin.

Are you telling me that the majority of Nigerians have light skin?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I actually think the first is more attractive than the second; the complexion on the second one is a bit "off"; hard to explain what it is, but it just strikes me as a bit unattractive.

I said that it was one element, I did not say it was greater than other elements. The most important element is likely facial symmetry.

Well, that and the fact that the first one is probably photoshopped to some extent

True, argument remains though

One's a black woman, one's a white-complected woman. Their skin pigmentations do not have any bearing on me finding them attractive but that's because I come from a background where racial differences are negligible, and they don't bar me from dating other Hispanic women from different skin pigmentations.

[United Marxist Nations]

You did though, you said that "the societal belief that light skin=more attractive" was based in racism.

Yes it is.

It is not, it is simply that we live in a society where the majority have light skin.

Are you telling me that the majority of Nigerians have light skin?

Do you live in Nigeria?

[Mavorpen]

Yes it is.


Are you telling me that the majority of Nigerians have light skin?

Do you live in Nigeria?

Suppose that I do.

Now answer the question instead of dodging it.

[United Marxist Nations]

Well, that and the fact that the first one is probably photoshopped to some extent

True, argument remains though

One's a black woman, one's a white-complected woman. Their skin pigmentations do not have any bearing on me finding them attractive but that's because I come from a background where racial differences are negligible, and they don't bar me from dating other Hispanic women.

I think I've got the reason I think the second one's complexion gets a "ugh" reaction from me: it looks like she's on meth. She probably isn't, but for some reason I associate that complexion with those on meth.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

True, argument remains though

One's a black woman, one's a white-complected woman. Their skin pigmentations do not have any bearing on me finding them attractive but that's because I come from a background where racial differences are negligible, and they don't bar me from dating other Hispanic women.

I think I've got the reason I think the second one's complexion gets a "ugh" reaction from me: it looks like she's on meth. She probably isn't, but for some reason I associate that complexion with those on meth.

Probably isn't would be the right answer.

[United Marxist Nations]

Do you live in Nigeria?

Suppose that I do.

Now answer the question instead of dodging it.

Not until you've demonstrated that Nigeria has a societal belief that light skin=more attractive. If that is the case, then yeah, that is racist; however, there are also those in the African race that have lighter skin, and that an attraction dealing with skin pigmentation is more likely to have come from the perception that "lighter skin = less sun exposure = less menial labor" in a society that had subsistence farming not long ago.

[Mavorpen]

Suppose that I do.

Now answer the question instead of dodging it.

Not until you've demonstrated that Nigeria has a societal belief that light skin=more attractive.

Guess how many Nigerian women use skin lightening cream. 77%. 77 fucking percent. If that's not enough for you, here's an entire paper over the issue that also discusses it in India and Thailand. Now do tell me how this is simply about people liking those that look like them.

This should be entertaining.

[Geilinor]

Suppose that I do.

Now answer the question instead of dodging it.

Not until you've demonstrated that Nigeria has a societal belief that light skin=more attractive. If that is the case, then yeah, that is racist; however, there are also those in the African race that have lighter skin, and that an attraction dealing with skin pigmentation is more likely to have come from the perception that "lighter skin = less sun exposure = less menial labor" in a society that had subsistence farming not long ago.

Here. Whatever the reason is, it's still light skin = more attractive.

[Mallorea and Riva]

It's a good thing I never said it does.

No, it means you hate, disgust, dislike, etc. apples. Take your pick of what word to use, the general feeling remains the same.

Ok then. Enough said. Really. Try again when you have some reason, or at least learn to lie better like the kind of politicians you certainly like do. BTW, HURRRR PROGRESSIVE and HURRRRR MANGA RETARD.

Unofficial Warning for the flame. You seem to be new here, I'd suggest you take the time to read the rules.

[Mavorpen]

Not until you've demonstrated that Nigeria has a societal belief that light skin=more attractive. If that is the case, then yeah, that is racist; however, there are also those in the African race that have lighter skin, and that an attraction dealing with skin pigmentation is more likely to have come from the perception that "lighter skin = less sun exposure = less menial labor" in a society that had subsistence farming not long ago.

Here. Whatever the reason is, it's still light skin = more attractive.

That's what gets me. Why would the reason EVER matter? In fact, the reason is INHERENTLY racist. In America, it took the form of lighter skinned blacks becoming "house slaves" while darker skinned blacks were forced to work in the fields. The fact that this is a factor of the problem should NOT be a valid excuse for it not being racist.

[United Marxist Nations]

Not until you've demonstrated that Nigeria has a societal belief that light skin=more attractive.

Guess how many Nigerian women use skin lightening cream. 77%. 77 fucking percent. If that's not enough for you, here's an entire paper over the issue that also discusses it in India and Thailand. Now do tell me how this is simply about people liking those that look like them.

This should be entertaining.

Then we must then examine causes unrelated to looking similar. Foremost among these would be class-related ones, of which two would be the most relevant: 1) light skin being related to those who conduct less menial labor and thus spend less time in the sun, and 2) the colonial (British?) ruling class being white.

[Mavorpen]

Guess how many Nigerian women use skin lightening cream. 77%. 77 fucking percent. If that's not enough for you, here's an entire paper over the issue that also discusses it in India and Thailand. Now do tell me how this is simply about people liking those that look like them.

This should be entertaining.

Then we must then examine causes unrelated to looking similar. Foremost among these would be class-related ones, of which two would be the most relevant: 1) light skin being related to those who conduct less menial labor and thus spend less time in the sun, and 2) the colonial (British?) ruling class being white.

Both of which are, you guessed it, ground in racism! The fact that darker individuals were treated as inferior and that this belief persists today is, in fact, racism.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Here. Whatever the reason is, it's still light skin = more attractive.

That's what gets me. Why would the reason EVER matter? In fact, the reason is INHERENTLY racist. In America, it took the form of lighter skinned blacks becoming "house slaves" while darker skinned blacks were forced to work in the fields. The fact that this is a factor of the problem should NOT be a valid excuse for it not being racist.

Well, the reason does matter when talking about this.

You can find someone not attractive, however, the reason behind finding someone not attractive matters when it comes to things like these because the end result isn't necessarily the cause in and of itself, at least in this subject.

[Mavorpen]

That's what gets me. Why would the reason EVER matter? In fact, the reason is INHERENTLY racist. In America, it took the form of lighter skinned blacks becoming "house slaves" while darker skinned blacks were forced to work in the fields. The fact that this is a factor of the problem should NOT be a valid excuse for it not being racist.

Well, the reason does matter when talking about this.

You can find someone not attractive, however, the reason behind finding someone not attractive matters when it comes to things like these because the end result isn't necessarily the cause in and of itself, at least in this subject.

Again, I've never disagreed with this.

[United Marxist Nations]

Then we must then examine causes unrelated to looking similar. Foremost among these would be class-related ones, of which two would be the most relevant: 1) light skin being related to those who conduct less menial labor and thus spend less time in the sun, and 2) the colonial (British?) ruling class being white.

Both of which are, you guessed it, ground in racism! The fact that darker individuals were treated as inferior and that this belief persists today is, in fact, racism.

1) is not racist, because 1) is simply related to lighter skin being related to sun-exposure, which happened in Africa as well as other societies. The African ruling class likely had lighter skin before the Imperialists took over.

[Canovia]

No it's not racist people just don't know what racism is. If you were stereotyping then yea

[Mavorpen]

Both of which are, you guessed it, ground in racism! The fact that darker individuals were treated as inferior and that this belief persists today is, in fact, racism.

1) is not racist, because 1) is simply related to lighter skin being related to sun-exposure, which happened in Africa as well as other societies. The African ruling class likely had lighter skin before the Imperialists took over.

I'll just go ahead and wait for your source on this. So far I've been the one doing the work of actually citing my claims.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Then we must then examine causes unrelated to looking similar. Foremost among these would be class-related ones, of which two would be the most relevant: 1) light skin being related to those who conduct less menial labor and thus spend less time in the sun, and 2) the colonial (British?) ruling class being white.

Both of which are, you guessed it, ground in racism! The fact that darker individuals were treated as inferior and that this belief persists today is, in fact, racism.

In Latin America it took a more sinister turn into eugenics with the mestizaje ideology: that we lighter-skinned people could bring darker skinned people into equality if we married them and had mestizo children with them.

The idea, as you guessed it, failed; but the practice had an unintended consequence: it gave us a national identity instead of a racial identity. Race isn't an issue in Mexico and Central America, but that's because we've been more or less integrated into accepting we are of a national identity, not a racial identity.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No it's not racist people just don't know what racism is. If you were stereotyping then yea

Well, dating out of your own race is a social taboo in certain parts of America. I'd say racism in terms of dating is far from over.

[United Marxist Nations]

1) is not racist, because 1) is simply related to lighter skin being related to sun-exposure, which happened in Africa as well as other societies. The African ruling class likely had lighter skin before the Imperialists took over.

I'll just go ahead and wait for your source on this. So far I've been the one doing the work of actually citing my claims.

You need a source that those with less sun-exposure have lighter skin?

Okay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin ... ure_to_sun

[Mavorpen]

I'll just go ahead and wait for your source on this. So far I've been the one doing the work of actually citing my claims.

You need a source that those with less sun-exposure have lighter skin?

Okay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin ... ure_to_sun

Alright, I'll just go ahead and conclude you were making shit up when you said that the issue simply reduces to sun exposure and field work and nothing more since you refuse to actually source that specific claim.

The funny part is that your claim is SOMEWHAT correct. There is a correlation there. The problem? It's primarily in East Asia and does NOT explain Nigeria.