Only Want to Date White Girls, is this Racist?

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Americans also have smaller penisses than average. Are they smaller?

It's probably a dumb count.

And no, being a 14-15cm in a 1.75m body is by no means small. It's human normal.

"That's so racist, it's just that they have other genes. Stop bei g so phallocentric".

Phallocentric = only cares about penis, people who have penises, and/or stuff that involve, include or are related to penises

[Mavorpen]

Portuguese, Russians, Asians, etc. etc. have smaller bodies than some African and European phenotypes people recognize as the aesthetic standard, but include a very thin minority of humans.

What's the point of being this phallocentric?

Americans also have smaller penisses than average. Are they smaller?

The point is that saying a fact isn't racist.
"Kenyans are black"
"That's so racist, it's just that they have other genes. Stop bei g so phallocentric".

That's not a fact. Kenyans don't have "other genes."

[Calimera II]

And as I said: they don't.

no need for the broard strokes, only a minority don't.

No. In general, they don't. They are way poorer, have a different culture, speak differently and are over represented in criminal activies. And I am not saying they are not nice, I am saying I see it as a problem.

I want an Argentinian Argentina. I think it's a total shame the number of Paraguayans and Bolivians increased in triple digits. Without counthing the illegal ones. The worst thing is that Kirchner gives them the Argentinian nationality to gain votes. I find it really disgraceful.

We should help them in their own countries, it doesn't make any sense to fill a middle-high-income country with poor foreigners.

[Calimera II]

Americans also have smaller penisses than average. Are they smaller?

It's probably a dumb count.

And no, being a 14-15cm in a 1.75m body is by no means small. It's human normal.

"That's so racist, it's just that they have other genes. Stop bei g so phallocentric".

Phallocentric = only cares about penis, people who have penises, and/or stuff that involve, include or are related to penises

Oww I get it. You are to shy to talk about that talking about fucking penis-lengths isn't racist.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

No. In general, they don't. They are way poorer, have a different culture, speak differently and are over represented in criminal activies. And I am not saying they are not nice, I am saying I see it as a problem.

I want an Argentinian Argentina. I think it's a total shame the number of Paraguayans and Bolivians increased in triple digits. Without counthing the illegal ones. The worst thing is that Kirchner gives them the Argentinian nationality to gain votes. I find it really disgraceful.

We should help them in their own countries, it doesn't make any sense to fill a middle-high-income country with poor foreigners.

'-'

We're South American. We're hungry dirty arses somewhere around the world, too.

[Calimera II]

No. In general, they don't. They are way poorer, have a different culture, speak differently and are over represented in criminal activies. And I am not saying they are not nice, I am saying I see it as a problem.

I want an Argentinian Argentina. I think it's a total shame the number of Paraguayans and Bolivians increased in triple digits. Without counthing the illegal ones. The worst thing is that Kirchner gives them the Argentinian nationality to gain votes. I find it really disgraceful.

We should help them in their own countries, it doesn't make any sense to fill a middle-high-income country with poor foreigners.

'-'

We're South American. We're hungry dirty arses somewhere around the world, too.

I am an Argentinian. And Argentina is located in South America.
You are Brazilian. And Brazil is located in South America.

Culturally, socially and ethnically there are big differences.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Oww I get it. You are to shy to talk about that talking about fucking penis-lengths isn't racist.

It's not racist because it isn't a racial trait (I won't even say height is racial as humans get smarter, healthier, taller and with more stable DNA, among some other traits, according to life quality increases in their past generations; Europeans were 1.5m in average not many centuries ago), but then it can become racist when people start to insist that it is racial in spite of lack of research in such direction.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I am an Argentinian. And Argentina is located in South America.
You are Brazilian. And Brazil is located in South America.

Culturally, socially and ethnically there are big differences.

-__- You're still third world too

[Calimera II]

I am an Argentinian. And Argentina is located in South America.
You are Brazilian. And Brazil is located in South America.

Culturally, socially and ethnically there are big differences.

-__- You're still third world too

We are way richer than Paraguayans and Bolivians. There are big differences within South America.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

-__- You're still third world too

We are way richer than Paraguayans and Bolivians. There are big differences within South America.

Cariocas, paulistas, brasilienses and southern Brazilians are way richer than people from the Amazon or the Northeastern semi-arid Caatinga hinterland. Point?

[Calimera II]

We are way richer than Paraguayans and Bolivians. There are big differences within South America.

Cariocas, paulistas, brasilienses and southern Brazilians are way richer than people from the Amazon or the Northeastern semi-arid Caatinga hinterland. Point?

Other south American countries =/= Argentina.

Your statement rhat we are all South Americans thus the same doesn't make any sense. I mean, you cam clearly see and hear the difference between a Panamese and an Argentine.

[Eastern Equestria]

Cariocas, paulistas, brasilienses and southern Brazilians are way richer than people from the Amazon or the Northeastern semi-arid Caatinga hinterland. Point?

Other south American countries =/= Argentina.

Your statement rhat we are all South Americans thus the same doesn't make any sense. I mean, you cam clearly see and hear the difference between a Panamese and an Argentine.

You mean a Panamanian? Panama is in North America.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Other south American countries =/= Argentina.

Your statement rhat we are all South Americans thus the same doesn't make any sense. I mean, you cam clearly see and hear the difference between a Panamese and an Argentine.

It's normal that poor people immigrate when capitalism makes life unfair. All regions with significant workforce attraction like São Paulo attract a clusterfuck of immigrants that end up swallowing entire villages of people from harsh life regions. Paraguay doesn't even have ENOUGH PEOPLE to make Argentina stop. If you don't want life to be like that, don't support neoliberalism.

Otherwise, you blame the wrong people while being classist and xenophobic.

[Calimera II]

Other south American countries =/= Argentina.

Your statement rhat we are all South Americans thus the same doesn't make any sense. I mean, you cam clearly see and hear the difference between a Panamese and an Argentine.

You mean a Panamanian? Panama is in North America.

Colombian then.

[Euroslavia]

The last few pages have gotten pretty far off topic, let's please get the train back on the tracks. If you wish to discuss Argentina (or South America in general), do so in another thread.

[Kelinfort]

There is a lot of penis talk here in a thread about preferring people by skin colour. Anyway, I don't have a preference, but I think it's ok for people to have a preference, but if it's based around racist logic, that is absurd.

[Calimera II]

Other south American countries =/= Argentina.

Your statement rhat we are all South Americans thus the same doesn't make any sense. I mean, you cam clearly see and hear the difference between a Panamese and an Argentine.

It's normal that poor people immigrate when capitalism makes life unfair. All regions with significant workforce attraction like São Paulo attract a clusterfuck of immigrants that end up swallowing entire villages of people from harsh life regions. Paraguay doesn't even have ENOUGH PEOPLE to make Argentina stop. If you don't want life to be like that, don't support neoliberalism.

Otherwise, you blame the wrong people while being classist and xenophobic.

I don't blame capitalism whatsoever. I balme the shitty Paraguayan government and the mayority of Argentines are against immigration for Paraguay and Bolivia. Bur when you say something about it, people like you will call you "xenophobix" whatsoever, while I am not.
Triple Digits increases in immigration is unhealthy. Especially when they have a different culture and do most thinks differently. And immigration from poor people is bad for a middle-high income mation.

[Calimera II]

The last few pages have gotten pretty far off topic, let's please get the train back on the tracks. If you wish to discuss Argentina (or South America in general), do so in another thread.

Oops didn't see it. Sorry for my last post.

[NAROLA-II]

I would rather a society were we can be "racists" who date only people we like, for whatever the reason, than a society were we are FORCED to date people we don't like. Maybe we are better monkeys (white, asian or black) being "racist" than monkeys supporting RAPE.

It's pretty easy to settle the argument. Lets suppose dating people of only one color is racist no matter what.

Paradise would be people dating anyone, even if they don't like him or her. People who don't are either criminalized or marginalized. Except if we suppose the unrealistic scenario where everyone genuinely likes everyone, which is bullshit.

Does that seem good? No, except if you are a REAL racist that feels you would gain something on that (kind of going up in the social ladder) and is such an arse that would like people living this way to your benefit.

Then why the fuss over it? Why "address" it? This is as racist as it is IN FACT being homophobic for not dating same sex people. And we are "speciescist" for not dating animals. And all the arguments are EXACTLY the same. Sexuality can be socially constructed and can be based in prejudice just as well. Animals sometimes will breed with different species, not just different races. The argument is the same.

Now, who are we to say it can't be just a preference? Better yet, how can we know what would be EACH ONE'S decision if social construction or prejudice were nil? Some people would still be dating only some kinds of people, so what then? Those decisions can in fact be racist, no doubt. But they can be also about money, social position, revenge, fetish, anything. People aren't forbidden to be stupid, they must only not get in other people way. And to each charge, there needs to be proof first. A relationship can be based on racism or even fraud, first you have to prove. Someone who dates only certain people is not a crime by itself, nor morally wrong. Quite easy to accuse blindfolded, especially when it makes you look like the "liberator of the poor and the forsaken".

Unless you know the person actually likes some race, but won't date it because of prejudice, there is NO WAY to tell if it is racism or not. And there is more to it. You CAN'T accuse him or her of racism, as it's a crime to accuse someone of something they didn't. And you can't do ANYTHING about it, unless you go mad dictator route. In fact, doing anything about it is a civil rights offense. Everyone should should be in the relationships they want to, no matter what, if they aren't hurting anyone or anyone's right (and it's not your right to demand anyone to date you just because you are of a different race).

If you go that far into classifying things as racism, we are all racists in the end. We are all of one specific race after all and why not be any other race? Why not go Nigeria (lol, what a stupid thing) and bleach your skin, or paint yourself yellow? Preference? Well, preference on a race, so it's racism.

It can be also classicism or anything else. In such a context it's not wrong by itself and it's not getting into anyone's way or a law, therefore each to their own, respect and liberty. All the rest is bullshit. Let w*nkers call it racism, bigotry, ground racism or anything.

This sums up it nicely, if we are going to go as long as "ground racism":

The real question is not whether it's racist or not, because it obviously is, but whether it's wrong. I personally don't see it as wrong, even if it is racist.

If it isn't wrong, it doesn't matter. The same way couples of different races aren't wrong, so anyone's view on it irrelevant be it good or bad.

I know people who are Neo-Nazis.

I don't give a fuck.

Ultimately, THIS! It's personal life people. Being the interracial hero on the internet won't make anyone's life better at the end of the day. I dare say, even on real life.

[Mavorpen]

Then why the fuss over it? Why "address" it? This is as racist as it is IN FACT being homophobic for not dating same sex people. And we are "speciescist" for not dating animals. And all the arguments are EXACTLY the same. Sexuality can be socially constructed and can be based in prejudice just as well. Animals sometimes will breed with different species, not just different races. The argument is the same.

No. Already addressed this shitty argument.

In what way? Having a preference doesn't make one racist. I mean, there are no logical reasons behind preferences. We simply have them.

Okay, this is the problem. You keep using the word "preference" but not actually giving scenarios in which ONLY preferences are in play.

Being given the option between an apple and an orange and choosing an apple because you have a preference for them is just acting upon a preference. Being offered an orange and refusing it because they're disgusting and because you only eat apples is NOT. There's something else at play there that's more than just a simple preference.

Also, I've already addressed the whole "we don't choose who we are attracted to" response:

The principles aren't the same. Not even remotely. See, it's true you can't pick and choose who you're sexually attracted to, but this doesn't in any way shape or form automatically rule out racism. After all, it's not like racists choose to be that way. It typically happens because they were brought up to be that way.

And the same is largely true for people who ONLY date people of a certain race. We know that in many places there is a cultural perception of beauty that is ground in racism. Lighter skin=prettier being one of them. It's reached the point where even a lot of blacks have subscribed to this belief. It's gotten to the point where in Nigeria, 77% of black women use bleaching products.

This kind of shit doesn't influence your sexual orientation. You don't become gay by looking at gay porn all day. You can, however, be coaxed into the belief that certain characteristics that are perceived to belong to certain races are inherently better than others.

I'm aware you don't choose who you are attracted to. That does not, however, mean that we should not recognize that "I will ONLY date a person of X race" is grounded in racism. No one's saying this makes you the equivalent to a KKK member. It's just something that's honestly a real problem that should be addressed.

[Cupola]

I admit I can be a lot stubborn at times, but what indicated to you that I didn't want to discuss this topic?

Because if you did, you wouldn't be blabbing that it doesn't hurt anyone and therefore doesn't matter.

Because it fucking doesn't. People's fetishes don't hurt anyone as long as everything is consensual. No example has been shown in this thread where fetishes, racial or not, have hurt anyone in a consensual relationship.

Already explained this in my previous post.

You surely didn't forget it THAT quickly.

Oh yeah, that one. I don't know if any studies have been made of the subject that outside influences can sway people's sexual preference. Do you, by any chance and could you link to them, if possible? Might be an interesting read.

http://www.academia.edu/3591665/Changin ... Perception

I'll get you more once I get access to a computer.[/quote]
Mkay.

Wrong. They are undeniably being pushed just as EVERYONE is pushed to buy a product.

How?

...what do you mean how? That's how advertising WORKS. The sole purpose of advertisement is to push people to purchase a product.[/quote]
...people still have the choice to buy the product or not, so there's no problem.

[Mavorpen]

Because it fucking doesn't. People's fetishes don't hurt anyone as long as everything is consensual. No example has been shown in this thread where fetishes, racial or not, have hurt anyone in a consensual relationship.

See, there you go again arguing things no one has ever said. It's hard to take your claim seriously that you're interested in discussing when you refuse to actually talk about things being discussed.

Mkay.

If you like, you can also just read this section on a Wikipedia page about the subject. It's well cited.

...people still have the choice to buy the product or not, so there's no problem.

Again, stop with the straw men. I don't give a flying fuck if they have the choice to. There is DEMONSTRABLY a problem, as I ALREADY showed with a source that you didn't even TRY to address.

[Cupola]

Because it fucking doesn't. People's fetishes don't hurt anyone as long as everything is consensual. No example has been shown in this thread where fetishes, racial or not, have hurt anyone in a consensual relationship.

See, there you go again arguing things no one has ever said. It's hard to take your claim seriously that you're interested in discussing when you refuse to actually talk about things being discussed.

If I'm not interested in discussing, I don't post. Plain and simple.

Mkay.

If you like, you can also just read this section on a Wikipedia page about the subject. It's well cited.

Sure. I recognize your sources. They're tasty.

...people still have the choice to buy the product or not, so there's no problem.

Again, stop with the straw men. I don't give a flying fuck if they have the choice to. There is DEMONSTRABLY a problem, as I ALREADY showed with a source that you didn't even TRY to address.

Complaints need to be filed and the products pulled out, as with any toxic product that's not supposed to be toxic. It's good that these studies are made so that more individual become aware that an age-old issue is still present in modern world.

[NAROLA-II]

Okay, this is the problem. You keep using the word "preference" but not actually giving scenarios in which ONLY preferences are in play.

Being given the option between an apple and an orange and choosing an apple because you have a preference for them is just acting upon a preference. Being offered an orange and refusing it because they're disgusting and because you only eat apples is NOT. There's something else at play there that's more than just a simple preference.

Also, I've already addressed the whole "we don't choose who we are attracted to" response: more babble

You haven't addressed anything. In fact, people who think stuff as "I'm too intelligent to have preferences that come before politically correct theories" never address anything.

If you don't know the scenario YOU CAN'T MAKE ACCUSATIONS either. And no, just saying I won't date X people is not racist automatically. You would have to know why is that decision being taken. It can be just preference and preference is preference. There is as much manipulation, madness and personal bullshit in choosing a green car over a blue one as there is into this subject. If people are not guilty of doing that and are not charged with crimes or racism or colorism in that, they can't be charged of racism in a relationship.

It's in the end a personal decision and people preferences can be mad or good, it's not a crime and it's not necessarily racism. It CAN BE (again, CAN BE) racism, depending on WHY the person made that decision. Even then, it's for the best that so far there's nothing we can or should do about it. Last thing the humanity needs is some crazy f*ck determining marriages and relationships and saying who you should like.

[Mavorpen]

Complaints need to be filed and the products pulled out, as with any toxic product that's not supposed to be toxic. It's good that these studies are made so that more individual become aware that an age-old issue is still present in modern world.

That won't solve the problem. The UK, for example, faces the issue of illegal skin lightening creams STILL being supplied.

The best way to address this is to change public perception of minorities and beauty.