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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:43 pm

Gairvuu wrote:
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Was refers to the diagnose. Gates is indeed alive.

Still wrong tense, it should have been Bill gates HAS never BEEN diagnosed with Aspergers.


I don't think the tense was used erroneously.
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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:43 pm

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Gairvuu wrote:WAS? He's still alive.

I mean he was never diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder.

True. But isn't he suspected? Whatever, Bill Gates is generous. He will be funding our invasion of the inferior rats.

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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:44 pm

KASSRD wrote:We understand we are classified as a disorder we just dot like to be called that. I prefer "on the spectrum". I also think there should be a way to call you type of brain like race or gender. Neuro-type, anyone?


It's accurate. I have no interest in participating in this euphamism treadmill bullshit.
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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:44 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
KASSRD wrote:We understand we are classified as a disorder we just dot like to be called that. I prefer "on the spectrum". I also think there should be a way to call you type of brain like race or gender. Neuro-type, anyone?


It's accurate. I have no interest in participating in this euphamism treadmill bullshit.

I'm sorry, what was the last part?

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Postby Geilinor » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:44 pm

Gairvuu wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Was refers to the diagnose. Gates is indeed alive.

Still wrong tense, it should have been Bill gates HAS never BEEN diagnosed with Aspergers.

I didn't say "was never been", I said "was never diagnosed". "Has never diagnosed" is certainly incorrect.
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Postby Gairvuu » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:45 pm

I still believe my diagonosis was wrong, but eh, fighting for your rights wrongly benefits me, and I have no real morales anyway.
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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:46 pm

Gairvuu wrote:I still believe my diagonosis was wrong, but eh, fighting for your rights wrongly benefits me, and u have no real morales anyway.

You don't think you are autistic?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:47 pm

Gairvuu wrote:I still believe my diagonosis was wrong, but eh, fighting for your rights wrongly benefits me, and I have no real morales anyway.


In what way do you consider your diagnose erroneous?
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Postby Gairvuu » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:47 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Gairvuu wrote:Still wrong tense, it should have been Bill gates HAS never BEEN diagnosed with Aspergers.

I didn't say "was never been", I said "was never diagnosed". "Has never diagnosed" is certainly incorrect.

Hence the addition of been.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:48 pm

KASSRD wrote:I'm sorry, what was the last part?


Word A is deemed offensive
Word B is used as a substitute
Word B enters common use
Word B is deemed offensive
Word C is used as a substitute

Repeat until the sun dies. Euphamism treadmill.
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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:49 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
KASSRD wrote:I'm sorry, what was the last part?


Word A is deemed offensive
Word B is used as a substitute
Word B enters common use
Word B is deemed offensive
Word C is used as a substitute

Repeat until the sun dies. Euphamism treadmill.

Oh, hats what you meant. I thought you were referring it the thread.

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Postby Betoni » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:49 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
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I wouldn't presume to define it. I'm not criticizing the spectrum thinking at all. I'm pointing out that people are't used to that kind of looseness in medical terms. Interestingly enough, according to wikipedia there is some controversy whether Aspergers should be included in the autism spectrum. I personally would prefer syndromal autism/non-syndromal autism to LFA/HFA.


you wouldnt presume to define it?
a few people have, and here it is.

http://www.autreat.com/dsm4-autism.html


I'm aware there is a definition. I was just pointing out that our understanding of the condition is so woefully inadequate that any definition is bound to evolve constantly as we learn to understand the condition more. As is apparent by the almost yearly changes in the definition and the diagnostic criteria.

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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:49 pm

I just realized the OP hasn't checked in on this thread once since she made it.

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Postby Gairvuu » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:49 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gairvuu wrote:I still believe my diagonosis was wrong, but eh, fighting for your rights wrongly benefits me, and I have no real morales anyway.


In what way do you consider your diagnose erroneous?

It was given at a time when doctors were diagnosing people left right and centre for normal things, I don't really fit most of the criteria now anyway, having grown up a bit (I believe this rules me out, not sure), mostly I would just like to get checked again.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:49 pm

Gairvuu wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I didn't say "was never been", I said "was never diagnosed". "Has never diagnosed" is certainly incorrect.

Hence the addition of been.

The sentence worked just fine the way I wrote it. Let's get back to the topic now, please.
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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:50 pm

Gairvuu wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
In what way do you consider your diagnose erroneous?

It was given at a time when doctors were diagnosing people left right and centre for normal things, I don't really fit most of the criteria now anyway, having grown up a bit (I believe this rules me out, not sure), mostly I would just like to get checked again.

Well I am kidding about the whole take over the world part.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:51 pm

Gairvuu wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
In what way do you consider your diagnose erroneous?

It was given at a time when doctors were diagnosing people left right and centre for normal things, I don't really fit most of the criteria now anyway, having grown up a bit (I believe this rules me out, not sure), mostly I would just like to get checked again.


Perhaps you should get a checkup and have a doctor tell you for sure. If you're ASD, it's probably high functioning and high functioning autism manifests differently in people.
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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:51 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Gairvuu wrote:Hence the addition of been.

The sentence worked just fine the way I wrote it. Let's get back to the topic now, please.

I think we are mostly agreed on the main topic. Autistics should choose the choice. The parents should fill in for those who can't make choices.

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Postby Gairvuu » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:51 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Gairvuu wrote:Hence the addition of been.

The sentence worked just fine the way I wrote it. Let's get back to the topic now, please.

But but... it implied that bill gates was dead! Anyway...
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:52 pm

KASSRD wrote:
Gairvuu wrote:It was given at a time when doctors were diagnosing people left right and centre for normal things, I don't really fit most of the criteria now anyway, having grown up a bit (I believe this rules me out, not sure), mostly I would just like to get checked again.

Well I am kidding about the whole take over the world part.


But but, the webcomic! I even had a name for the hero.
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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:53 pm

Is there anyone who thinks a "cure" should be mandatory, or that no "cure" should be given to anyone?

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Postby Pandect » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:53 pm

Autism is about your mind being wired in a different way to other people. Who are you to decide which is right or wrong? And how dare any of you without it expect that those with it have some need to be cured.

Yes it might impact their sociability, or their ability to function within a so-called 'standard' society, but that doesn't mean that people with autism have anything less to contribute than anyone else. I would imagine that if it were possible to remove the causes of autism, this world would be missing many of its great artists, inventors, mathematicians and scientists.

Perhaps we should cure creativity, along with compassion and any other abhorrent weakness that seems to plague these lesser beings in the eyes of you, the 'normal' man. How very dare you.
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Postby Gairvuu » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:53 pm

KASSRD wrote:
Gairvuu wrote:It was given at a time when doctors were diagnosing people left right and centre for normal things, I don't really fit most of the criteria now anyway, having grown up a bit (I believe this rules me out, not sure), mostly I would just like to get checked again.

Well I am kidding about the whole take over the world part.

I do detect satire you know.. Common misconception that all HFA and Aspergers people can't and that it's a defining trait, some can.
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Postby KASSRD » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
KASSRD wrote:Well I am kidding about the whole take over the world part.


But but, the webcomic! I even had a name for the hero.

Well we autistics wouldn't take over the owrld through war. If we ever take it over, we will mostly likely do it be taking per the government, science people, and economy. Then we make armies or robots and enslave the non autistics.

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Postby Geilinor » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:54 pm

Pandect wrote:Autism is about your mind being wired in a different way to other people. Who are you to decide which is right or wrong? And how dare any of you without it expect that those with it have some need to be cured.

Yes it might impact their sociability, or their ability to function within a so-called 'standard' society, but that doesn't mean that people with autism have anything less to contribute than anyone else. I would imagine that if it were possible to remove the causes of autism, this world would be missing many of its great artists, inventors, mathematicians and scientists.

Perhaps we should cure creativity, along with compassion and any other abhorrent weakness that seems to plague these lesser beings in the eyes of you, the 'normal' man. How very dare you.

No artists, inventors, mathematicians, or scientists would be made to take such a cure.
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