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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri May 30, 2014 8:19 pm

Sturmtiger wrote:Isn't the KKK only active in America?

Yep, and on a rapid decline as Neo-Nazis have a larger net of hatred.
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Postby Seriong » Fri May 30, 2014 9:53 pm

Australian Republic wrote:http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/world-cup-2014-asda-attacked-over-wearable-england-flag-which-looks-like-kkk-hood-1450629
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... utfit.html
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/world- ... 41992.html
http://news.sky.com/story/1272141/asdas ... kk-costume

A supermarket in England has released an English flag hoodie for supporters to wear to the soccer. It includes a wearable flag with a hoodie for rain protection. The only issue with it is that it looks like the outfit of the notorious group of white supremacists-the KKK




Now, where I stand on this is here.
a) People should be encouraged to support their nation and show patriotism
b) Hoodies like this should be encouraged not criticised
c) However, at the same time, they should really check these things before releasing it, because it does look like a KKK outfit
d) There is nothing wrong with people supporting their nation and wanting rain protection. It's just an unfortunate coincidence that the English flag hoodie looks like the KKK outfit
Where do you stand on this?

It looks nothing like the KKK uniform, it's simply a white pancho, which is distance enough, however the red colors then separate it further.
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Postby Seriong » Fri May 30, 2014 9:55 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Sturmtiger wrote:Isn't the KKK only active in America?

Yep, and on a rapid decline as Neo-Nazis have a larger net of hatred.

I don't think so, if I recall correctly, Neo-Nazi's are cool with Catholics, something the KKK isn't.
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Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

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Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

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Postby Shie » Fri May 30, 2014 10:06 pm

Seriong wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Yep, and on a rapid decline as Neo-Nazis have a larger net of hatred.

I don't think so, if I recall correctly, Neo-Nazi's are cool with Catholics, something the KKK isn't.

If they're not ready to clean their house up, these fools shouldn't have a house.

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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Fri May 30, 2014 10:31 pm

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Keyboard Warriors wrote:So why was there considerable backlash against Asda then? You seem to be saying "The British won't care about this too much" after the story has already been broken, by British. To me it's apparent a lot of British know who the KKK is and what they wore.
Because it's the freaking Daily Mail. All they publish is sensationalist bullshit. Let's search on the BBC for this. What do you know? The story can't be found. How do I explain why the British are freaking out about this? Quite simply, they aren't.

The BBC is not a metric for what British citizens care about, that's just silly. Nor has anyone said that the British are freaking out about this. The Daily Mail is a tabloid whose sole aim is to sell newspapers. They covered it because there was decent mention of it on twitter and they evidently assumed most British would know who the KKK is. If it matters, you can also find it in the Telegraph and in the Guardian. I don't see why you think the Daily Mail covering it doesn't help to prove that most British know who the KKK is, to me it almost certainly does. If it wasn't going to sell newspapers or generate ad revenue, it simply wouldn't have been published.
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Postby Scholmeria » Fri May 30, 2014 10:58 pm

Australian Republic wrote:http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/world-cup-2014-asda-attacked-over-wearable-england-flag-which-looks-like-kkk-hood-1450629
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... utfit.html
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/world- ... 41992.html
http://news.sky.com/story/1272141/asdas ... kk-costume

A supermarket in England has released an English flag hoodie for supporters to wear to the soccer. It includes a wearable flag with a hoodie for rain protection. The only issue with it is that it looks like the outfit of the notorious group of white supremacists-the KKK




Now, where I stand on this is here.
a) People should be encouraged to support their nation and show patriotism
b) Hoodies like this should be encouraged not criticised
c) However, at the same time, they should really check these things before releasing it, because it does look like a KKK outfit
d) There is nothing wrong with people supporting their nation and wanting rain protection. It's just an unfortunate coincidence that the English flag hoodie looks like the KKK outfit
Where do you stand on this?

England/UK comite terrible thing to the world so it does not wonder if their Flag hoodie looks like the KKK outfit. The English flag represents evil.
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Postby Desmendura » Fri May 30, 2014 11:16 pm

Pretty much only the head part resembles the KKK outfit. Nothing else.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat May 31, 2014 1:28 am

That's hilarious.

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Postby Sdaeriji » Sat May 31, 2014 1:53 am

Not to get in the way of all the righteous English outrage in this thread, but a red cross on a white background is one of the more common KKK symbols, though the inversion is more prevalent. It's an explicit Knights Templar reference. They don't just roll out in white bedsheets.
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Postby Siedliva » Sat May 31, 2014 1:58 am

Sdaeriji wrote:Not to get in the way of all the righteous English outrage in this thread, but a red cross on a white background is one of the more common KKK symbols, though the inversion is more prevalent. It's an explicit Knights Templar reference. They don't just roll out in white bedsheets.

This is the St. George Flag, AKA the English flag :palm:
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Postby Sdaeriji » Sat May 31, 2014 2:00 am

Siedliva wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:Not to get in the way of all the righteous English outrage in this thread, but a red cross on a white background is one of the more common KKK symbols, though the inversion is more prevalent. It's an explicit Knights Templar reference. They don't just roll out in white bedsheets.

This is the St. George Flag, AKA the English flag :palm:


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Postby Siedliva » Sat May 31, 2014 2:03 am

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Siedliva wrote:This is the St. George Flag, AKA the English flag :palm:


First post from a nation founded today, and already using the facepalm smiley. I foresee great things from you.

Oh why, thank you. Instead of answering to what I said, you make a totally irrelevant remark. You are so clever.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Sat May 31, 2014 2:04 am

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First post from a nation founded today, and already using the facepalm smiley. I foresee great things from you.

Oh why, thank you. Instead of answering to what I said, you make a totally irrelevant remark. You are so clever.


You didn't say anything.
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Postby Siedliva » Sat May 31, 2014 2:06 am

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Siedliva wrote:Oh why, thank you. Instead of answering to what I said, you make a totally irrelevant remark. You are so clever.


You didn't say anything.

I did. I said that what you think is a Templar Knights reference is nothing more than the English flag. And the English flag has nothing to do with the KKK.
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Postby Camelza » Sat May 31, 2014 2:08 am

Siedliva wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:Not to get in the way of all the righteous English outrage in this thread, but a red cross on a white background is one of the more common KKK symbols, though the inversion is more prevalent. It's an explicit Knights Templar reference. They don't just roll out in white bedsheets.

This is the St. George Flag, AKA the English flag :palm:

Also a national symbol of Milan, Genoa and Georgia(not the one in Dixie) centuries before the KKK used it.

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Postby Sdaeriji » Sat May 31, 2014 2:08 am

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You didn't say anything.

I did. I said that what you think is a Templar Knights reference is nothing more than the English flag. And the English flag has nothing to do with the KKK.


The KKK use of the red cross on a white background is a deliberate Knights Templar reference.
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Postby Siedliva » Sat May 31, 2014 2:11 am

Camelza wrote:
Siedliva wrote:This is the St. George Flag, AKA the English flag :palm:

Also a national symbol of Milan, Genoa and Georgia(not the one in Dixie) centuries before the KKK used it.

Georgia, the fine nation in the Caucasus. Soon to be provice of Russia anyway :p

I bet the St. George Flag, or the general design is a symbol of many differet provinces or states or whatever, worldwide. Which is what makes the whole hoodie+cross= KKK irrelevant for all people worldwide. Except in the US maybe.
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Postby Camelza » Sat May 31, 2014 2:11 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Siedliva wrote:I did. I said that what you think is a Templar Knights reference is nothing more than the English flag. And the English flag has nothing to do with the KKK.


The KKK use of the red cross on a white background is a deliberate Knights Templar reference.

That's true, it was a clever way to distinguish the Knights Templar(red cross in white background) from the Knights Hospitaller(white cross in red background).

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Postby San Isicio » Sat May 31, 2014 2:12 am

England, Ku Kluxing to Brazil 2014.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Sat May 31, 2014 2:12 am

Sdaeriji wrote:Not to get in the way of all the righteous English outrage in this thread, but a red cross on a white background is one of the more common KKK symbols, though the inversion is more prevalent. It's an explicit Knights Templar reference. They don't just roll out in white bedsheets.

So what?

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Postby Sdaeriji » Sat May 31, 2014 2:13 am

Camelza wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
The KKK use of the red cross on a white background is a deliberate Knights Templar reference.

That's true, it was a clever way to distinguish the Knights Templar(red cross in white background) from the Knights Hospitaller(white cross in red background).


And since the KKK sees themselves as a continuation of the tradition of Christian military orders, it's not surprising that they co-opt a lot of the same symbolism.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Sat May 31, 2014 2:14 am

Lemanrussland wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:Not to get in the way of all the righteous English outrage in this thread, but a red cross on a white background is one of the more common KKK symbols, though the inversion is more prevalent. It's an explicit Knights Templar reference. They don't just roll out in white bedsheets.

So what?


So, the people saying things like "It looks nothing like the KKK uniform, it's simply a white pancho, which is distance enough, however the red colors then separate it further," are wrong.
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Postby Camelza » Sat May 31, 2014 2:15 am

Siedliva wrote:
Camelza wrote:Also a national symbol of Milan, Genoa and Georgia(not the one in Dixie) centuries before the KKK used it.

Georgia, the fine nation in the Caucasus. Soon to be provice of Russia anyway :p

I bet the St. George Flag, or the general design is a symbol of many differet provinces or states or whatever, worldwide. Which is what makes the whole hoodie+cross= KKK irrelevant for all people worldwide. Except in the US maybe.

Georgia's and Milan's St George flags are the only ones not related to the crusades, though.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat May 31, 2014 2:16 am

Ashmoria wrote:that's funny.

id change the white to another color.

Then it wouldn't be depicting the English flag, defeating the point entirely.

The reason it "resembles" the KKK gown is because it's a cheap strip of cloth. So, it's a square and a triangle for a hood, to be cheap to produce in the hilarious numbers to sell to football supporters.
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Postby Camelza » Sat May 31, 2014 2:17 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Camelza wrote:That's true, it was a clever way to distinguish the Knights Templar(red cross in white background) from the Knights Hospitaller(white cross in red background).


And since the KKK sees themselves as a continuation of the tradition of Christian military orders, it's not surprising that they co-opt a lot of the same symbolism.

So, England should change its centuries' old flag, which is a renmant of its real crusading kings, because a bunch of butthurt southerners formed a racist hate group and capitulated templar symbols and history? I don't think so...

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