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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Wed May 28, 2014 2:34 am

This One Weird Tip From A Quiverful Mom Might Just Save The US Economy! Liberals Hate Her!

(Everything is being replaced by computers, shitting up the planet with more people will not Save The Economy, it'll just create more busywork for people who would otherwise be unemployed)
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They tried their damnedest. If you look at the population of Ukraine, where men are still an obvious minority, three-four generations after the Second World War, it's one of those things.

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Postby Dakini » Wed May 28, 2014 3:00 am

Allet Klar Chefs wrote:This One Weird Tip From A Quiverful Mom Might Just Save The US Economy! Liberals Hate Her!

pft. Since when are they allowed on the internet without the explicit permission and supervision of their husbands?

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Allet Klar Chefs wrote:This One Weird Tip From A Quiverful Mom Might Just Save The US Economy! Liberals Hate Her!

pft. Since when are they allowed on the internet without the explicit permission and supervision of their husbands?

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Postby Dagnia » Wed May 28, 2014 3:30 am

Your argument seems to be based on the idea that they would have been productive members of society. Ask yourself what kind of kids get aborted. I have a cousin who works at a Planned Parenthood who tells us some stories about clients that are those kinds of things that are incredibly funny and sad at the same time. Nearly every one of the "clients" has kids who were not aborted and nearly all of those kids have a criminal record. In the end, abortion probably saves more money.

And I've often heard the argument that successful women are likely to have an abortion because they get in the way of their careers. It's probably just as good that they get aborted because there are less kids with complexes because of their mothers reminding them that mom could have been CEO if only the condom hadn't busted. Just think of how many of these high-profile shooters came from wealthy, successful families.
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Postby The Klishi Islands » Wed May 28, 2014 4:28 am

Shilya wrote:
Caninope wrote:There's actually not true; in fact, the SSA expects the Trust Fund to run out sometime between 2039 and 2041.


Let me rephrase that prediction.

"Gib monies plox."

No seriously, you really think they know what things will look like 25 years from now? Remember, 25 years ago, the soviet union was still a thing.


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Postby Benuty » Wed May 28, 2014 4:29 am

The Abortion ban [Romania under Ceausescu] would go on to Romania's economy even after the democratization and created an incredibly large class of orphans. Not to mention all the women that died in illegal abortions was frankly appalling.
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Postby Budhoshi » Wed May 28, 2014 4:42 am

HAHAHAHAHAHA "X caused Y"? Okay, OP is clearly not a student of history. Before you make proclamations that one thing led to another in the past, you need to examine every single detail about the time, not just issue blanket statements like the one you just made ;)

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Postby Romano-Germanic Empire » Wed May 28, 2014 4:43 am

The only things abortion does is make politicians waste time arguing about it instead of the big issues, and make ultra conservative Christians blindly vote for anyone who says they are pro-life.
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Stopped reading after the title.

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Postby Ashmoria » Wed May 28, 2014 5:57 am

Roski wrote:
Shilya wrote:I don't see abortions causing this.

If you want an explanation, look at birth control instead. Around that time, the pill as reliable birth control for women was introduced.

Still reasonably the same thing.

not the same thing at all.

americans stopped wanting bunches of children. its rather "un-American" to force people to have unwanted children. luckily we can still get the extra population from around the world without having to pay the costs of raising children to adulthood.
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Postby The Re-Frisivisiaing » Wed May 28, 2014 6:00 am

Pretty sure it's the other way 'round.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed May 28, 2014 6:02 am

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I'm pretty sure Hitler didn't have lots of babies after WW2, though.

Well... maybe Doktor Mengele cloned him!


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The Re-Frisivisiaing wrote:Pretty sure it's the other way 'round.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed May 28, 2014 6:34 am

No. It's not like the US's population is declining. Abortion took place even during the 40's-50's. The baby boom was a one time event that was both good and now, bad. We're going to beating the bill really soon.

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Postby Kelinfort » Wed May 28, 2014 6:37 am

New Holy Germania wrote:Abortion disn't cause this economic collapse but it contributes. People allow abortions and are against/ignore/for it but it causes a psychological factor. We realize we kill the closest thing to a baby, if not a baby-for it feels pain and thinks. Science even backs this up. Biologically they are human. We say they aren't a person. Jews were once not people. Blacks were once not people. We realize or don't realize the hypocrisy of our situation as it being equal rights yet killing nannies to appease whores and monsters. We realize this that we murder millions upon millions and nothing happens. It causes a tick tock in society. People move away from sanity. We don't care as much and the corrupt seize power. Corruption causes more chaos and crime. There are no legitimate exercises for abortions except to save the mother's life and most if not all of the time she chooses her baby's life in place of her own. You may be for abortion but ask yourself this, what if your parents wanted you to be aborted? Hmm? Also as an Israeli who has relatives die fir the French Resistance, U.S. Army and Marines, and had members killed in the German Army because they weren't considered people is different from aborted fetuses, but it's pretty darn fucking close.Just think that my relatives died fighting for Hitler's dream by Hitler himself because they weren't PEOPLE! Tells you who's on your side, huh. When the day comes unroll the next PEOPLE aren't considered PEOPLE I don't know. So, is a fetus not being a "person" a valid excuse to painfully slaughter it you brood of voters! You hypocritical fools! You have doomed us all to hell!

You start by addressing the topic and then go Gish galloping to god knows where. This isn't the question. Also, since you seem to believe in hell...I have a question for you: if a foetus has the choice between a life that may or may not condemn it to hell and instant paradise, what should it choose?
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Postby Ashmoria » Wed May 28, 2014 6:43 am

Kelinfort wrote:
New Holy Germania wrote:Abortion disn't cause this economic collapse but it contributes. People allow abortions and are against/ignore/for it but it causes a psychological factor. We realize we kill the closest thing to a baby, if not a baby-for it feels pain and thinks. Science even backs this up. Biologically they are human. We say they aren't a person. Jews were once not people. Blacks were once not people. We realize or don't realize the hypocrisy of our situation as it being equal rights yet killing nannies to appease whores and monsters. We realize this that we murder millions upon millions and nothing happens. It causes a tick tock in society. People move away from sanity. We don't care as much and the corrupt seize power. Corruption causes more chaos and crime. There are no legitimate exercises for abortions except to save the mother's life and most if not all of the time she chooses her baby's life in place of her own. You may be for abortion but ask yourself this, what if your parents wanted you to be aborted? Hmm? Also as an Israeli who has relatives die fir the French Resistance, U.S. Army and Marines, and had members killed in the German Army because they weren't considered people is different from aborted fetuses, but it's pretty darn fucking close.Just think that my relatives died fighting for Hitler's dream by Hitler himself because they weren't PEOPLE! Tells you who's on your side, huh. When the day comes unroll the next PEOPLE aren't considered PEOPLE I don't know. So, is a fetus not being a "person" a valid excuse to painfully slaughter it you brood of voters! You hypocritical fools! You have doomed us all to hell!

You start by addressing the topic and then go Gish galloping to god knows where. This isn't the question. Also, since you seem to believe in hell...I have a question for you: if a foetus has the choice between a life that may or may not condemn it to hell and instant paradise, what should it choose?


im pretty sure he is suggesting that god will punish everyone for the sins of a few. YOU will go to hell because women are allowed to abort unwanted pregnancies.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed May 28, 2014 6:47 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You start by addressing the topic and then go Gish galloping to god knows where. This isn't the question. Also, since you seem to believe in hell...I have a question for you: if a foetus has the choice between a life that may or may not condemn it to hell and instant paradise, what should it choose?


im pretty sure he is suggesting that god will punish everyone for the sins of a few. YOU will go to hell because women are allowed to abort unwanted pregnancies.

And if it's illegal only women having illegal abortions will go to hell?

Also, why would a deity consign a woman to eternal torment if the foetus, if born, chose a life of crime and sin? It's completely contradictory.

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Postby Monkeykind » Wed May 28, 2014 6:48 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
im pretty sure he is suggesting that god will punish everyone for the sins of a few. YOU will go to hell because women are allowed to abort unwanted pregnancies.

And if it's illegal only women having illegal abortions will go to hell?

Also, why would a deity consign a woman to eternal torment if the foetus, if born, chose a life of crime and sin? It's completely contradictory.

Those crimes needed to happen.

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Postby Caninope » Wed May 28, 2014 6:50 am

Shilya wrote:
Caninope wrote:There's actually not true; in fact, the SSA expects the Trust Fund to run out sometime between 2039 and 2041.


Let me rephrase that prediction.

"Gib monies plox."

No seriously, you really think they know what things will look like 25 years from now? Remember, 25 years ago, the soviet union was still a thing.

No, but in the case of actuarial sciences and finance, we've gotten rather good at the types of forecast that the Social Security Trust Fund requires.
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New Holy Germania wrote:Abortion disn't cause this economic collapse but it contributes. People allow abortions and are against/ignore/for it but it causes a psychological factor. We realize we kill the closest thing to a baby, if not a baby-for it feels pain and thinks. Science even backs this up. Biologically they are human. We say they aren't a person. Jews were once not people. Blacks were once not people. We realize or don't realize the hypocrisy of our situation as it being equal rights yet killing nannies to appease whores and monsters. We realize this that we murder millions upon millions and nothing happens. It causes a tick tock in society. People move away from sanity. We don't care as much and the corrupt seize power. Corruption causes more chaos and crime. There are no legitimate exercises for abortions except to save the mother's life and most if not all of the time she chooses her baby's life in place of her own. You may be for abortion but ask yourself this, what if your parents wanted you to be aborted? Hmm? Also as an Israeli who has relatives die fir the French Resistance, U.S. Army and Marines, and had members killed in the German Army because they weren't considered people is different from aborted fetuses, but it's pretty darn fucking close.Just think that my relatives died fighting for Hitler's dream by Hitler himself because they weren't PEOPLE! Tells you who's on your side, huh. When the day comes unroll the next PEOPLE aren't considered PEOPLE I don't know. So, is a fetus not being a "person" a valid excuse to painfully slaughter it you brood of voters! You hypocritical fools! You have doomed us all to hell!



While that last part, the thread isn't an argument for or against abortion. Its an argument on how it may have effected the government negatively.

Moreover, "Why Abortion may have had some sort of negative impact on the US Economy, as well as a lot of other things" doesn't fit the title limit.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed May 28, 2014 6:51 am

Monkeykind wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:And if it's illegal only women having illegal abortions will go to hell?

Also, why would a deity consign a woman to eternal torment if the foetus, if born, chose a life of crime and sin? It's completely contradictory.

Those crimes needed to happen.

I thought god was all knowing. Also, wouldn't it already know the foetus's potential, future, and such? As I asked earlier, would it be better that a foetus receive eternal life or live a life of crime and depression?

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Postby Thafoo » Wed May 28, 2014 6:52 am

"Why Abortion may have destroyed the US Economy."
I'm sure they'd absolutely adore you on Fox News.

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Postby Monkeykind » Wed May 28, 2014 6:54 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:Those crimes needed to happen.

I thought god was all knowing. Also, wouldn't it already know the foetus's potential, future, and such? As I asked earlier, would it be better that a foetus receive eternal life or live a life of crime and depression?

He is. He would. And the foetus; what makes you think it would get eternal life if it wasn't born?

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Postby Norstal » Wed May 28, 2014 6:54 am

Thafoo wrote:"Why Abortion may have destroyed the US Economy."
I'm sure they'd absolutely adore you on Fox News.

You know what else destroys the economy? The CIA. They make otherwise healthy governments collapse.

Now the NSA. You should be rooting for the NSA instead of those CIA guys.
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Postby Roski » Wed May 28, 2014 6:55 am

Thafoo wrote:"Why Abortion may have destroyed the US Economy."
I'm sure they'd absolutely adore you on Fox News.


Ugh no, because I am all for abortion. I just thought about something.
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