Why Abortion may have destroyed the US Economy

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

No, no, his argument is sound, because it was made by him. If you say the exact same thing, it's wrong because you said it.

You are far more arrogant than I am.

I ought to be. When you are trying to tell me that I am nothing but a brood mare, I am going to be arrogant and hateful. You don't get to tell me I don't have a right to my own body and expect me to be sweet and loving.

[Vindex Nation]

You are far more arrogant than I am.

I ought to be. When you are trying to tell me that I am nothing but a brood mare, I am going to be arrogant and hateful. You don't get to tell me I don't have a right to my own body and expect me to be sweet and loving.

Your telling me that you want to have the right to go and kill thousands of defenseless babies? """And expect me to be sweet and loving"""

[Mavorpen]

I ought to be. When you are trying to tell me that I am nothing but a brood mare, I am going to be arrogant and hateful. You don't get to tell me I don't have a right to my own body and expect me to be sweet and loving.

Your telling me that you want to have the right to go and kill thousands of defenseless babies? """And expect me to be sweet and loving"""

Why would she do that? Abortion doesn't involve killing babies.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I ought to be. When you are trying to tell me that I am nothing but a brood mare, I am going to be arrogant and hateful. You don't get to tell me I don't have a right to my own body and expect me to be sweet and loving.

Your telling me that you want to have the right to go and kill thousands of defenseless babies? """And expect me to be sweet and loving"""

A human baby is an organism.

Tell me how does a 2 month old fetus or even a 4 month old fetus fits the organism criteria.

[Vindex Nation]

Your telling me that you want to have the right to go and kill thousands of defenseless babies? """And expect me to be sweet and loving"""

Why would she do that? Abortion doesn't involve killing babies.

Yes it does. A fetus is a baby. And why should I listen to you? You are the one who said killing people is "natural" so apparently by your definition I can go a shoot people for fun and it is just "natural"

[Vindex Nation]

Your telling me that you want to have the right to go and kill thousands of defenseless babies? """And expect me to be sweet and loving"""

A human baby is an organism.

Tell me how does a 2 month old fetus or even a 4 month old fetus fits the organism criteria.

You don't make the rules for defining life

[Mavorpen]

Yes it does. A fetus is a baby.

No it isn't. A baby is a human organism from birth to roughly 2 years of age.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

A human baby is an organism.

Tell me how does a 2 month old fetus or even a 4 month old fetus fits the organism criteria.

You don't make the rules for defining life

Life of a cell doesn't equal the life of a human being.

The question is how is a clump of cells an organism?

[Mavorpen]

A human baby is an organism.

Tell me how does a 2 month old fetus or even a 4 month old fetus fits the organism criteria.

You don't make the rules for defining life

And since neither do you, you're pissing at the wind.

[Vindex Nation]

Yes it does. A fetus is a baby.

No it isn't. A baby is a human organism from birth to roughly 2 years of age.

*conception not birth

[Mavorpen]

*conception not birth

Nope.

An infant (from the Latin word infans, meaning "unable to speak" or "speechless") is the very young offspring of a human or animal. When applied to humans, the term is usually considered synonymous with baby or bairn (Scotland), but the latter is commonly applied to the young of any animal. When a human child learns to walk, the term toddler may be used instead.

The term infant is typically applied to young children between the ages of 1 month and 12 months; however, definitions may vary between birth and 1 year of age, or even between birth and 2 years of age. A newborn is an infant who is only hours, days, or up to a few weeks old. In medical contexts, newborn or neonate (from Latin, neonatus, newborn) refers to an infant in the first 28 days after birth;[1] the term applies to premature infants, postmature infants, and full term infants. Before birth, the term fetus is used.

[Vindex Nation]

You don't make the rules for defining life

Life of a cell doesn't equal the life of a human being.

The question is how is a clump of cells an organism?

1.) you keep saying "a" cell, it is more than just one cells.

2.) it is not a "clump" it is a developing human

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

I ought to be. When you are trying to tell me that I am nothing but a brood mare, I am going to be arrogant and hateful. You don't get to tell me I don't have a right to my own body and expect me to be sweet and loving.

Your telling me that you want to have the right to go and kill thousands of defenseless babies? """And expect me to be sweet and loving"""

Assuming that I could get pregnant every month, which isn't possible, to have even 1000 abortions would take more than 1000 months, considering that you have to be able to test positive for pregnancy before you can have an abortion. Let's round this up to one pregnancy every 7 weeks. That's 7000 weeks. Over 134 years. And you are suggesting multiple thousands.

[Vindex Nation]

*conception not birth

Nope.

An infant (from the Latin word infans, meaning "unable to speak" or "speechless") is the very young offspring of a human or animal. When applied to humans, the term is usually considered synonymous with baby or bairn (Scotland), but the latter is commonly applied to the young of any animal. When a human child learns to walk, the term toddler may be used instead.

The term infant is typically applied to young children between the ages of 1 month and 12 months; however, definitions may vary between birth and 1 year of age, or even between birth and 2 years of age. A newborn is an infant who is only hours, days, or up to a few weeks old. In medical contexts, newborn or neonate (from Latin, neonatus, newborn) refers to an infant in the first 28 days after birth;[1] the term applies to premature infants, postmature infants, and full term infants. Before birth, the term fetus is used.

You just gave me the definition of infant. That means nothing to me, I am talking about when they are human not when they are classified as an infant. Stay on topic Kim Jong un

[Mavorpen]

Nope.

You just gave me the definition of infant. That means nothing to me, I am talking about when they are human not when they are classified as an infant. Stay on topic Kim Jong un

An infant (from the Latin word infans, meaning "unable to speak" or "speechless") is the very young offspring of a human or animal. When applied to humans, the term is usually considered synonymous with baby or bairn (Scotland), but the latter is commonly applied to the young of any animal. When a human child learns to walk, the term toddler may be used instead.

The term infant is typically applied to young children between the ages of 1 month and 12 months; however, definitions may vary between birth and 1 year of age, or even between birth and 2 years of age. A newborn is an infant who is only hours, days, or up to a few weeks old. In medical contexts, newborn or neonate (from Latin, neonatus, newborn) refers to an infant in the first 28 days after birth;[1] the term applies to premature infants, postmature infants, and full term infants. Before birth, the term fetus is used.

You should probably actually read next time.

[Vindex Nation]

Your telling me that you want to have the right to go and kill thousands of defenseless babies? """And expect me to be sweet and loving"""

Assuming that I could get pregnant every month, which isn't possible, to have even 1000 abortions would take more than 1000 months, considering that you have to be able to test positive for pregnancy before you can have an abortion. Let's round this up to one pregnancy every 7 weeks. That's 7000 weeks. Over 134 years. And you are suggesting multiple thousands.

I am not talking about one person. I am talking about one country. In america there are thousands of abortions a year.

[Vindex Nation]

You just gave me the definition of infant. That means nothing to me, I am talking about when they are human not when they are classified as an infant. Stay on topic Kim Jong un

An infant (from the Latin word infans, meaning "unable to speak" or "speechless") is the very young offspring of a human or animal. When applied to humans, the term is usually considered synonymous with baby or bairn (Scotland), but the latter is commonly applied to the young of any animal. When a human child learns to walk, the term toddler may be used instead.

The term infant is typically applied to young children between the ages of 1 month and 12 months; however, definitions may vary between birth and 1 year of age, or even between birth and 2 years of age. A newborn is an infant who is only hours, days, or up to a few weeks old. In medical contexts, newborn or neonate (from Latin, neonatus, newborn) refers to an infant in the first 28 days after birth;[1] the term applies to premature infants, postmature infants, and full term infants. Before birth, the term fetus is used.

You should probably actually read next time.

This has nothing to do with a fetus nor pregnancy.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Assuming that I could get pregnant every month, which isn't possible, to have even 1000 abortions would take more than 1000 months, considering that you have to be able to test positive for pregnancy before you can have an abortion. Let's round this up to one pregnancy every 7 weeks. That's 7000 weeks. Over 134 years. And you are suggesting multiple thousands.

I am not talking about one person. I am talking about one country. In america there are thousands of abortions a year.

Thousands of women who wish not to give birth and instead decided, "hey, this is my body, and no one, not a growup or a fetus, gets to use it against my will."
I support those women.

[Mavorpen]

You should probably actually read next time.

This has nothing to do with a fetus nor pregnancy.

Great, then you admit that a fetus isn't a baby.

Glad that's over with.

[Vindex Nation]

Anyways I have got to go offline so my posts will stop here

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[Vindex Nation]

This has nothing to do with a fetus nor pregnancy.

Great, then you admit that a fetus isn't a baby.

Glad that's over with.

I fetus is a baby, I never said it wasn't, use your brain

[Mavorpen]

Great, then you admit that a fetus isn't a baby.

Glad that's over with.

I fetus is a baby, I never said it wasn't, use your brain

Then my link has everything to do with a fetus, since I just showed a fetus isn't a baby.

You're not very good at this, are you?

[Andersen Tribal States]

Hey everyone familiar with freakenomics? They make the case that shows before Roe v. Wade when abortion was illegal, when those kids who would otherwise be aborted were in their 20's, crime skyrocketed. This is because those kids were unwanted, or born into inadequate families, often getting into drugs, and violence. This costs us a lot of money, because this was also the start of our huge heroin and Aids epedemic. Many other attributes can be traced to before, during, and after Roe v. Wade. I'm not making the case for it or against it, just the studies that show these trends which are very conclusive. Now for the whole unemployment thing, first of all, baby boomers are still working, they also were the outsource generation because more jobs were sent oversees under their watch than any other time in US history. CEO's income quadrupled, minimum wage decreased, health care has been declining... My Generation Y or Z depending on who you talk to (1994) actually is equal in size to the baby boomers, I'm turning 20, so we are entering the workforce, but the thing is, we are working twice as hard to get balf as far. If we want to go deeper let's talk about other factors. Under Bush, the top 1% earned more in those 8 years than they had in all of US history, while the bottom 50% made 25% less on average. Quantitative easing under the Obama administration has now devalued the US dollar, and as countries move away from our currency as the trade standard, are debt will be called up, plus many nations are already backing out from bonds, and it will be a snowball effect. You wonder why are economy is bad? Poor fiscal policy, horrible international rations, misuse of funds, and government lies and cover ups.

[The Treorai]

This thread...

This thread deserves a fucking medal.

[Lemanrussland]

Access to birth control is part of the reason for the decline in birth rates, but there are lots of other factors.

The changing economic status of children is one of the biggest. In an agricultural society, children were actually probably a net economic benefit to a household, once they got out of the baby/toddler stage anyway. More hands around the farm to do hard manual work. Nowadays, they are mostly money sinks until they move out on their own in their late teens or early 20s, in most cases.

The economic and social empowerment of women is another.

A decline in birth rates combines with modern medicine/longer life spans to create population aging. In the long term this is definitely an issue, but the situation is not as bad for the US as it is for some other developed nations, like Japan and Germany. We're better able to cover losses with immigration and our birth rates haven't settled below the replacement rate.

The current economic situation also has nothing to do with population aging. The economy also isn't "collapsing". Population aging is more of a long term issue, the main consequence will be added stress on our social security/entitlements system.