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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 am

Mavorpen wrote:
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You can't stop a natural death, however you can stop a doctor from murdering someone.

A doctor aborting a fetus is a natural death. Get over it and actually address the OP.


That is not at all natural, use a brain Kim Jong un.

If I kill you is that natural???

Because that is basically what you just said.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 am

Vindex Nation wrote:They are human cells that are growing and developing.

So are the cells making up my pinkie.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 am

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
Except a fetus doesn't make a person. Personhood isn't even achieved after delivery and the baby is crying. Then do we put value on his life as a person, otherwise a fetus is not a person, and a fetus isn't a human until they are around 5 months in development.


Yes a fetus is to a person. Since when do you get to decide what age I have to be in order to get your human rights approval? They are human cells that are growing and developing. It is infact a human

Okay, great, a fetus has every right that anyone else does.
Conveniently, however, they still don't get the right to use my body against my will.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:A doctor aborting a fetus is a natural death. Get over it and actually address the OP.


That is not at all natural, use a brain Kim Jong un.

If I kill you is that natural???

Because that is basically what you just said.

Yes, if you kill me, it's natural. People dying from being killed is a natural result. This isn't rocket science.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
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You are a human. Not a cow

I'm also not livestock and you can't force me to give birth.

Don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.
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"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:41 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:I'm also not livestock and you can't force me to give birth.

Don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.

Yes, women love to get pregnant so they can have an abortion. I mean, it surely can't be an accident that they got pregnant.
And no matter what happened that caused them to get pregnant, you don't get to force them to give birth.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:41 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:I'm also not livestock and you can't force me to give birth.

Don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.

Don't drive if you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:41 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:Don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.

Don't drive if you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver.

Don't eat if you don't want to choke.
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Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 31, 2014 12:41 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Except a fetus doesn't make a person. Personhood isn't even achieved after delivery and the baby is crying. Then do we put value on his life as a person, otherwise a fetus is not a person, and a fetus isn't a human until they are around 5 months in development.


Yes a fetus is to a person. Since when do you get to decide what age I have to be in order to get your human rights approval? They are human cells that are growing and developing. It is infact a human


It is a human cell, not a human being.

A human being is a human organism, an organism is composed of systems, said systems are composed of organs, said organs are composed of cells, and said cells are composed of complex structures and a DNA core which determines our traits.

Cells do not make a human organism, ever. And I do not get to decide what age I have to be to get human rights. Doctors and medical science have done so for us.
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:42 am

Mavorpen wrote:
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That is not at all natural, use a brain Kim Jong un.

If I kill you is that natural???

Because that is basically what you just said.

Yes, if you kill me, it's natural. People dying from being killed is a natural result. This isn't rocket science.


You are making the liberals look dumb. Natural death means it is not caused by humankind. Obviously you can't use a dictionary or a brain. How do you not know what the word natural means???
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“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” ~Ronald Regan

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:42 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Don't drive if you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver.

Don't eat if you don't want to choke.

Don't breathe if you don't want your cells to continuously function until they inevitability can no longer divide.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:43 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Yes, if you kill me, it's natural. People dying from being killed is a natural result. This isn't rocket science.


You are making the liberals look dumb. Natural death means it is not caused by humankind. Obviously you can't use a dictionary or a brain. How do you not know what the word natural means???

There is no such thing as an unnatural death. There are unnatural causes, but not unnatural deaths.
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:43 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:Don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.

Don't drive if you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver.


It is clear to me from both this post and your previous posts that you are a retard
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"Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." ~ Calvin Coolidge

"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." ~Ronald Reagan

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” ~Ronald Regan

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 31, 2014 12:43 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Yes, if you kill me, it's natural. People dying from being killed is a natural result. This isn't rocket science.


You are making the liberals look dumb. Natural death means it is not caused by humankind. Obviously you can't use a dictionary or a brain. How do you not know what the word natural means???


Natural means caused by nature.

The fact we have this fetishism about us not being part of nature doesn't mean anything. We're still part of nature, and in nature, it is perfectly normal.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:44 am

Vindex Nation wrote:You are making the liberals look dumb. Natural death means it is not caused by humankind.

No, scientifically, "death by natural causes" it means it isn't caused by external forces.

This has nothing to do with the fact that you being killed by someone is natural.
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"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:44 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
You are making the liberals look dumb. Natural death means it is not caused by humankind. Obviously you can't use a dictionary or a brain. How do you not know what the word natural means???

There is no such thing as an unnatural death. There are unnatural causes, but not unnatural deaths.


Do you know what the word Natural means??!
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"Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." ~ Calvin Coolidge

"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." ~Ronald Reagan

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” ~Ronald Regan

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:44 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Don't drive if you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver.


It is clear to me from both this post and your previous posts that you are a retard

Flaming really shows me that your position has a lot of substance, congratulations, I am a pro-lifer now, wow, that was such a great argument.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 31, 2014 12:44 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Don't drive if you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver.


It is clear to me from both this post and your previous posts that you are a retard


It is clear to me from this post and your previous posts that you don't know how to argue.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:45 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:There is no such thing as an unnatural death. There are unnatural causes, but not unnatural deaths.


Do you know what the word Natural means??!

Natural means that it occurs in nature.
There is only one type of death: DEATH. Death is always natural. The means by which you die may or may not be natural.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:46 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Don't drive if you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver.


It is clear to me from both this post and your previous posts that you are a retard

If that's the case, it really doesn't bode well for you then, considering this post was mocking your own.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:47 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
It is clear to me from both this post and your previous posts that you are a retard

If that's the case, it really doesn't bode well for you then, considering this post was mocking your own.

No, no, his argument is sound, because it was made by him. If you say the exact same thing, it's wrong because you said it.
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:47 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
It is clear to me from both this post and your previous posts that you are a retard

If that's the case, it really doesn't bode well for you then, considering this post was mocking your own.


All of your posts are retarded because of how arrogant you are. You are truly the most stubern person I have ever seen on nation states
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"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." ~Ronald Reagan

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” ~Ronald Regan

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:48 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:If that's the case, it really doesn't bode well for you then, considering this post was mocking your own.


All of your posts are retarded because of how arrogant you are. You are truly the most stubern person I have ever seen on nation states

Oh, do tell me more.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:48 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:If that's the case, it really doesn't bode well for you then, considering this post was mocking your own.

No, no, his argument is sound, because it was made by him. If you say the exact same thing, it's wrong because you said it.


You are far more arrogant than I am.
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"Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." ~ Calvin Coolidge

"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." ~Ronald Reagan

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” ~Ronald Regan

“A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.” ~ Robert Frost



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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:50 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
All of your posts are retarded because of how arrogant you are. You are truly the most stubern person I have ever seen on nation states

Oh, do tell me more.


I like to play with colors to!
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"Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." ~ Calvin Coolidge

"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." ~Ronald Reagan

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” ~Ronald Regan

“A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.” ~ Robert Frost



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