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All dem sperm, man. I've probably killed more than a hundred billion potential Americans.

I am literally Hitler.

You are an idiot. We say conception, not before conception. Once conception has began it is more than a "potential"
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:13 am

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Norstal wrote:All dem sperm, man. I've probably killed more than a hundred billion potential Americans.

I am literally Hitler.

You are an idiot. We say conception, not before conception. Once conception has began it is more than a "potential"

No it isn't. You do know what happens during a woman's period, right?
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:15 am

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Norstal wrote:All dem sperm, man. I've probably killed more than a hundred billion potential Americans.

I am literally Hitler.

You are an idiot. We say conception, not before conception. Once conception has began it is more than a "potential"

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat May 31, 2014 12:16 am

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Norstal wrote:All dem sperm, man. I've probably killed more than a hundred billion potential Americans.

I am literally Hitler.

You are an idiot. We say conception, not before conception. Once conception has began it is more than a "potential"

Most pregnancies end in spontaneous abortions if you count from conception.
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:22 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:You are an idiot. We say conception, not before conception. Once conception has began it is more than a "potential"

No it isn't. You do know what happens during a woman's period, right?


I don't think I care. That has nothing to do with a conceived child.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:24 am

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Mavorpen wrote:No it isn't. You do know what happens during a woman's period, right?


I don't think I care. That has nothing to do with a conceived child.

Except that a lot of women get their periods, but what it really is is an already fertilized egg.
So if you wanna say that conception is the start of life then blame God because legitimately half of all fertilized eggs are expelled naturally.
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:25 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:You are an idiot. We say conception, not before conception. Once conception has began it is more than a "potential"

Most pregnancies end in spontaneous abortions if you count from conception.


Not most. It happens yes but it is not to often. Anyways this is a natural death, an abortion from a doctor is not at all natural. It is forced
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:27 am

Vindex Nation wrote:


Not most. It happens yes but it is not to often. Anyways this is a natural death, an abortion from a doctor is not at all natural. It is forced

Half of all fertilized eggs are expelled.
Even more are miscarried after the first trimester.
That is, in fact, most.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:28 am

Vindex Nation wrote:


Not most. It happens yes but it is not to often. Anyways this is a natural death, an abortion from a doctor is not at all natural. It is forced

That's funny, because many animals like mice, horses, etc. force their bodies to abort. Is it natural, or not? And if not, why the double standard?
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:29 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
I don't think I care. That has nothing to do with a conceived child.

Except that a lot of women get their periods, but what it really is is an already fertilized egg.
So if you wanna say that conception is the start of life then blame God because legitimately half of all fertilized eggs are expelled naturally.


What? I don't care about things that happen naturally, we know that misscariges happen. It is when a """doctor""" kills a baby, that is wrong.
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:29 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
Not most. It happens yes but it is not to often. Anyways this is a natural death, an abortion from a doctor is not at all natural. It is forced

Half of all fertilized eggs are expelled.
Even more are miscarried after the first trimester.
That is, in fact, most.


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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:30 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
Not most. It happens yes but it is not to often. Anyways this is a natural death, an abortion from a doctor is not at all natural. It is forced

That's funny, because many animals like mice, horses, etc. force their bodies to abort. Is it natural, or not? And if not, why the double standard?


You are a human. Not a cow
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 31, 2014 12:30 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Except that a lot of women get their periods, but what it really is is an already fertilized egg.
So if you wanna say that conception is the start of life then blame God because legitimately half of all fertilized eggs are expelled naturally.


What? I don't care about things that happen naturally, we know that misscariges happen. It is when a """doctor""" kills a baby, that is wrong.


Wait. So you're fine with a miscarriage but not when a doctor does it?

What's the big difference in logic there?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:31 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:That's funny, because many animals like mice, horses, etc. force their bodies to abort. Is it natural, or not? And if not, why the double standard?


You are a human. Not a cow

In other words, it's still natural.

Got it.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 31, 2014 12:31 am

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Mavorpen wrote:That's funny, because many animals like mice, horses, etc. force their bodies to abort. Is it natural, or not? And if not, why the double standard?


You are a human. Not a cow


Humans are also animals, of the class homonid; common ancestor shared with modern primates.

How are we better than animals?
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:33 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
What? I don't care about things that happen naturally, we know that misscariges happen. It is when a """doctor""" kills a baby, that is wrong.


Wait. So you're fine with a miscarriage but not when a doctor does it?

What's the big difference in logic there?


A miscarriage is a natural death that unfortunately happens. I am not "ok" with it because someone has died, however a doctor killing someone is murder.


Can I kill you??? You will die eventually, so why not just let me shoot you in the head?

That is basically what you are saying
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:34 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
You are a human. Not a cow


Humans are also animals, of the class homonid; common ancestor shared with modern primates.

How are we better than animals?


How are we batter than animals? What does this have to do with the subject? Stay on topic.
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:35 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
You are a human. Not a cow

In other words, it's still natural.

Got it.


You can't stop a natural death, however you can stop a doctor from murdering someone.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 31, 2014 12:35 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Wait. So you're fine with a miscarriage but not when a doctor does it?

What's the big difference in logic there?


A miscarriage is a natural death that unfortunately happens. I am not "ok" with it because someone has died, however a doctor killing someone is murder.


Can I kill you??? You will die eventually, so why not just let me shoot you in the head?

That is basically what you are saying


Except a fetus doesn't make a person. Personhood isn't even achieved after delivery and the baby is crying. Then do we put value on his life as a person, otherwise a fetus is not a person, and a fetus isn't a human until they are around 5 months in development.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:36 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Humans are also animals, of the class homonid; common ancestor shared with modern primates.

How are we better than animals?


How are we batter than animals? What does this have to do with the subject? Stay on topic.

YOU aren't even on topic. This thread in the first place isn't about whether abortion is murder. It's about the effects of abortion on the US economy.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat May 31, 2014 12:36 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:In other words, it's still natural.

Got it.


You can't stop a natural death, however you can stop a doctor from murdering someone.

A doctor aborting a fetus is a natural death. Get over it and actually address the OP.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 31, 2014 12:37 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Humans are also animals, of the class homonid; common ancestor shared with modern primates.

How are we better than animals?


How are we batter than animals? What does this have to do with the subject? Stay on topic.


If we're not better than animals then we can also abort other human beings since you said "We're not cows" implying that unless you're an animal you cannot abort your own offspring.

I just showed you we're actually animals. We're advanced, sapient animals, but still animals.
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Postby Vindex Nation » Sat May 31, 2014 12:37 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Vindex Nation wrote:
A miscarriage is a natural death that unfortunately happens. I am not "ok" with it because someone has died, however a doctor killing someone is murder.


Can I kill you??? You will die eventually, so why not just let me shoot you in the head?

That is basically what you are saying


Except a fetus doesn't make a person. Personhood isn't even achieved after delivery and the baby is crying. Then do we put value on his life as a person, otherwise a fetus is not a person, and a fetus isn't a human until they are around 5 months in development.


Yes a fetus is to a person. Since when do you get to decide what age I have to be in order to get your human rights approval? They are human cells that are growing and developing. It is infact a human
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 31, 2014 12:38 am

Vindex Nation wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:That's funny, because many animals like mice, horses, etc. force their bodies to abort. Is it natural, or not? And if not, why the double standard?


You are a human. Not a cow

I'm also not livestock and you can't force me to give birth.
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