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Postby Valica » Wed May 28, 2014 10:04 am

Condunum wrote:
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No, the lack of a remaining baby boom destroyed it.

Right, and there is obviously a dangerous number of unfilled jobs and too few people to f-wait a second.


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Postby Ashmoria » Wed May 28, 2014 10:05 am

Mavorpen wrote:
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but when does it become human? by scientific standards doesn't become human the minute of fertilization of the egg?

I don't give a shit. That has nothing to do with the fact they aren't babies. Call them what they actually are: fetuses.

most are embryos.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed May 28, 2014 10:07 am

Lalaki wrote:No. For one (minor point), the US (or any other allied power) did not have to do with Hitler's death. Pushing that aside, the US is still above replacement rate. There will be plenty of workers to maintain the economy. A worrying case would be Japan, and we are not even close to that level of low fertility yet.

The US has just drifted below replacement now. I suspect the US will follow Japan, but if anyone can be blamed... it's bankers.
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Postby Valica » Wed May 28, 2014 10:11 am

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Lalaki wrote:No. For one (minor point), the US (or any other allied power) did not have to do with Hitler's death. Pushing that aside, the US is still above replacement rate. There will be plenty of workers to maintain the economy. A worrying case would be Japan, and we are not even close to that level of low fertility yet.

The US has just drifted below replacement now. I suspect the US will follow Japan, but if anyone can be blamed... it's bankers.


Bankers? Are you in middle school or something?
The problem with the economy is insane amounts of outsourcing, automation, and under-qualification.

If companies stayed in the US and let the people do the jobs, and education was more accessible, the economy would be spotless.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed May 28, 2014 10:13 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Lalaki wrote:No. For one (minor point), the US (or any other allied power) did not have to do with Hitler's death. Pushing that aside, the US is still above replacement rate. There will be plenty of workers to maintain the economy. A worrying case would be Japan, and we are not even close to that level of low fertility yet.

The US has just drifted below replacement now. I suspect the US will follow Japan, but if anyone can be blamed... it's bankers.

US has lots of immigration; it should be at least stable.

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Postby Pandect » Wed May 28, 2014 10:16 am

Roski wrote:We all know the story. We killed Hitler, then everyone went home and had (lots of) babies.

The Baby Boomer Period, or, to better explain
The term "baby boom" most often refers to the post–World War II baby boom (1946–1964) when the number of annual births exceeded 2 per 100 women (or approximately 2% of the total population size). There are an estimated 78.3 million Americans who were born during this demographic boom in births.

So what does that have to do with the economy?

Well, we all believe that the President rules the economy with an iron fist. I have seen many people think that on the forums. That, is horseshit.

Those 78.3 million Americans are now retiring (or dead already, but they really don't effect the economy anymore), and no longer in the workforce. For better or for worse, Social Security now pays them. So why does that matter?

Well, 78.3 million workers is a lot, almost the entire population of Germany. But still, abortion doesn't seem to play in.

Well, the Abortion movement started in 1973 (Hey Roski, stfu, you don't know what you are talking about, some random ass movement nine years after your damn point), meaning that instead of making babies, they were terminating pregnancies more.
This also means that there would be no baby boom after Vietnam as well. So now, you don't have enough people to replace the workforce of 78 MILLION people. That is why the economy is collapsing.

Or not. I don't know. It might be fucking aliens. What do you guys think?
Am I right?
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This question cannot even begin to be answered without some more statistics... so how may abortions has the USA performed since 1973?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed May 28, 2014 10:17 am

Kelinfort wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The US has just drifted below replacement now. I suspect the US will follow Japan, but if anyone can be blamed... it's bankers.

US has lots of immigration; it should be at least stable.

Yes, that is true. The standard of living in the US is still rather high when compared to the developing world. Japan has gone to robots to save the day though.

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The Serbian Empire wrote:The US has just drifted below replacement now. I suspect the US will follow Japan, but if anyone can be blamed... it's bankers.


Bankers? Are you in middle school or something?
The problem with the economy is insane amounts of outsourcing, automation, and under-qualification.

If companies stayed in the US and let the people do the jobs, and education was more accessible, the economy would be spotless.

Recessions are caused by bankers gambling recklessly. Those recessions reduce the field of jobs, and encourage companies that are profitable to automate and outsource.
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Postby Condunum » Wed May 28, 2014 10:18 am

Pandect wrote:
Roski wrote:We all know the story. We killed Hitler, then everyone went home and had (lots of) babies.

The Baby Boomer Period, or, to better explain
The term "baby boom" most often refers to the post–World War II baby boom (1946–1964) when the number of annual births exceeded 2 per 100 women (or approximately 2% of the total population size). There are an estimated 78.3 million Americans who were born during this demographic boom in births.

So what does that have to do with the economy?

Well, we all believe that the President rules the economy with an iron fist. I have seen many people think that on the forums. That, is horseshit.

Those 78.3 million Americans are now retiring (or dead already, but they really don't effect the economy anymore), and no longer in the workforce. For better or for worse, Social Security now pays them. So why does that matter?

Well, 78.3 million workers is a lot, almost the entire population of Germany. But still, abortion doesn't seem to play in.

Well, the Abortion movement started in 1973 (Hey Roski, stfu, you don't know what you are talking about, some random ass movement nine years after your damn point), meaning that instead of making babies, they were terminating pregnancies more.
This also means that there would be no baby boom after Vietnam as well. So now, you don't have enough people to replace the workforce of 78 MILLION people. That is why the economy is collapsing.

Or not. I don't know. It might be fucking aliens. What do you guys think?
Am I right?
Or not?


This question cannot even begin to be answered without some more statistics... so how may abortions has the USA performed since 1973?

Far, far fewer than would be needed to lower the birth rate and immigration rate combined under the replacement rate. Basically the numbers are negligible.
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Postby Roski » Wed May 28, 2014 10:19 am

Valica wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The US has just drifted below replacement now. I suspect the US will follow Japan, but if anyone can be blamed... it's bankers.


Bankers? Are you in middle school or something?
The problem with the economy is insane amounts of outsourcing, automation, and under-qualification.

If companies stayed in the US and let the people do the jobs, and education was more accessible, the economy would be spotless.



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Postby Liberaxia » Wed May 28, 2014 10:20 am

Roski wrote:
Valica wrote:
Bankers? Are you in middle school or something?
The problem with the economy is insane amounts of outsourcing, automation, and under-qualification.

If companies stayed in the US and let the people do the jobs, and education was more accessible, the economy would be spotless.



It is ILLEGAL to not go to school if you are under 18, the fuck you talking about.


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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed May 28, 2014 10:21 am

Condunum wrote:
Pandect wrote:
This question cannot even begin to be answered without some more statistics... so how may abortions has the USA performed since 1973?

Far, far fewer than would be needed to lower the birth rate and immigration rate combined under the replacement rate. Basically the numbers are negligible.

It's roughly 45 to 50 million abortions and would give the birth rates in the US being similar to Brazil's. The US is still a developing country in many areas.
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Postby Roski » Wed May 28, 2014 10:22 am

Liberaxia wrote:
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It is ILLEGAL to not go to school if you are under 18, the fuck you talking about.


Not everywhere.


In the USA, it is.

No one cares about whats legal and illegal in China in a conversation about the US Economy.
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Roski wrote:In the USA, it is.

No one cares about whats legal and illegal in China in a conversation about the US Economy.

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Postby Ashmoria » Wed May 28, 2014 10:30 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Condunum wrote:Far, far fewer than would be needed to lower the birth rate and immigration rate combined under the replacement rate. Basically the numbers are negligible.

It's roughly 45 to 50 million abortions and would give the birth rates in the US being similar to Brazil's. The US is still a developing country in many areas.

id guess about 40 million--1mil/year.

which is mostly irrelevant since women have the number of children they want regardless of whether or not they have an abortion. if they are unfortunately pregnant and have that baby, they go on to have one more later. if they are unfortunately pregnant and get an abortion they go on to have 2 babies later. (recognizing that not all women want 2 children) the abortion only affects those who already have the number of children they want and abort an extra pregnancy (or not) at the end of their childbearing time.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed May 28, 2014 10:31 am

Roski wrote:We all know the story. We killed Hitler, then everyone went home and had (lots of) babies.

The Baby Boomer Period, or, to better explain
The term "baby boom" most often refers to the post–World War II baby boom (1946–1964) when the number of annual births exceeded 2 per 100 women (or approximately 2% of the total population size). There are an estimated 78.3 million Americans who were born during this demographic boom in births.

So what does that have to do with the economy?

Well, we all believe that the President rules the economy with an iron fist. I have seen many people think that on the forums. That, is horseshit.

Those 78.3 million Americans are now retiring (or dead already, but they really don't effect the economy anymore), and no longer in the workforce. For better or for worse, Social Security now pays them. So why does that matter?

Well, 78.3 million workers is a lot, almost the entire population of Germany. But still, abortion doesn't seem to play in.

Well, the Abortion movement started in 1973 (Hey Roski, stfu, you don't know what you are talking about, some random ass movement nine years after your damn point), meaning that instead of making babies, they were terminating pregnancies more.
This also means that there would be no baby boom after Vietnam as well. So now, you don't have enough people to replace the workforce of 78 MILLION people. That is why the economy is collapsing.

Or not. I don't know. It might be fucking aliens. What do you guys think?
Am I right?
Or not?


Seems to me like a reasonable hypothesis. It is at least a possibility.

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Postby Valica » Wed May 28, 2014 10:35 am

Roski wrote:
Valica wrote:
Bankers? Are you in middle school or something?
The problem with the economy is insane amounts of outsourcing, automation, and under-qualification.

If companies stayed in the US and let the people do the jobs, and education was more accessible, the economy would be spotless.



It is ILLEGAL to not go to school if you are under 18, the fuck you talking about.


1) Book/Material costs
2) College education for specialized jobs, college isn't free

Many claim that a college diploma now is the equivalent of a high school diploma 10 or 20 years ago.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed May 28, 2014 10:38 am

Ashmoria wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:It's roughly 45 to 50 million abortions and would give the birth rates in the US being similar to Brazil's. The US is still a developing country in many areas.

id guess about 40 million--1mil/year.

which is mostly irrelevant since women have the number of children they want regardless of whether or not they have an abortion. if they are unfortunately pregnant and have that baby, they go on to have one more later. if they are unfortunately pregnant and get an abortion they go on to have 2 babies later. (recognizing that not all women want 2 children) the abortion only affects those who already have the number of children they want and abort an extra pregnancy (or not) at the end of their childbearing time.

The rate abortion has happened in the past would pretty much leave my figures anywhere from 1.05 million a year to 1.25 million a year. It might have only delayed the childbearing and thus possibly reduced child poverty.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed May 28, 2014 10:39 am

Arkiasis wrote:(Image)

The baby boomers are barely noticeable.

Seems like the OP is rambling and nothing more. When you sound as coherent as a Fox News Network talkshow host, you're doing it wrong.
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Postby Islamic republiq of Julundar » Wed May 28, 2014 10:53 am

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The baby boomers are barely noticeable.

Seems like the OP is rambling and nothing more. When you sound as coherent as a Fox News Network talkshow host, you're doing it wrong.

To make OP coherent: in ye Olden Dayes, good economy and lots of babies; nowadays, shite economy and less babies.

OP asserts that lots of babies causes good economy. I assert the opposite: good economy creates a neighbourhood fit to raise childern in.

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Postby Alien Space Bats » Wed May 28, 2014 10:55 am

Roski wrote:This also means that there would be no baby boom after Vietnam as well.

I'm guessing that you haven't spent much time looking at the force levels in Vietnam during the final years of the war, or considering the way in which Vietnam vets left the service. There never would have been a post-Vietnam "baby boom", because there never was a post-Vietnam mass discharge.

Roski wrote:So now, you don't have enough people to replace the workforce of 78 MILLION people. That is why the economy is collapsing.

Or not. I don't know. It might be fucking aliens. What do you guys think?
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Not. Most women who have abortions subsequently have a child they keep. Demographically, all abortion does is decide WHEN a woman has a child, not IF or HOW MANY children she'll have.
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Hurdegaryp wrote:Seems like the OP is rambling and nothing more. When you sound as coherent as a Fox News Network talkshow host, you're doing it wrong.

To make OP coherent: in ye Olden Dayes, good economy and lots of babies; nowadays, shite economy and less babies.

OP asserts that lots of babies causes good economy. I assert the opposite: good economy creates a neighbourhood fit to raise childern in.

That might actually be a good note.
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Birth control was a bigger problem than abortion.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 28, 2014 11:04 am

Abortion has destroyed the U.S. economy?

No, not even close.
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Postby Viritica » Wed May 28, 2014 11:06 am

If abortion destroyed the economy I want facts and statistics from reliable unbiased sources.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 28, 2014 11:08 am

Valica wrote:
Roski wrote:

It is ILLEGAL to not go to school if you are under 18, the fuck you talking about.


1) Book/Material costs
2) College education for specialized jobs, college isn't free

Many claim that a college diploma now is the equivalent of a high school diploma 10 or 20 years ago.


Throwing more money at a failing system isn't going to help much though.
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