No dates? Shoot a bunch of people. Santa Barbara Drive By.

[Ostroeuropa]

Is it true that 5/7ths of the people killed were men?

[Kelinfort]

Is it true that 5/7ths of the people killed were men?

Are you shitting me

Is that what you take out of this Ostro? People died at the hands of a mentally Ill radical MRA and that's what you take out of this?

[Ostroeuropa]

Is it true that 5/7ths of the people killed were men?

Are you shitting me

Is that what you take out of this Ostro? People died at the hands of a mentally Ill radical MRA and that's what you take out of this?

What, i'm not allowed to fact check? I've heard lots of people say it was all women.
I've heard others say it was mostly men.
Which is it.

[CTALNH]

I have never had a girlfriend either why the fuck woukd I go shoot people?

Also just go have sex with a sex worker is it that fucking difficult?

[CTALNH]

Implying that rape is about sex...

It can be but is far more often about power over another than any actual sexual gratification.

Yeah becuase a frightened womans screams are totally hot....

sarcasm

It totally is about power.

[The Legion of War]

What I do not understand is why getting laid is so important to drive a man to insanity. I mean seriously. How messed up can you be when that is the worst of your problems?!

First world problems?

[Kelinfort]

Are you shitting me

Is that what you take out of this Ostro? People died at the hands of a mentally Ill radical MRA and that's what you take out of this?

What, i'm not allowed to fact check? I've heard lots of people say it was all women.
I've heard others say it was mostly men.
Which is it.

Yes...so? The vitriolic hate against women this man showed doesn't lessen that. Just because more the victims were men, doesn't lessen the fact he had a clear and apparent hate for women who rejected him.

[Keventle]

This is why he never got a date...he was nuts.

[Ostroeuropa]

What, i'm not allowed to fact check? I've heard lots of people say it was all women.
I've heard others say it was mostly men.
Which is it.

Yes...so? The vitriolic hate against women this man showed doesn't lessen that. Just because more the victims were men, doesn't lessen the fact he had a clear and apparent hate for women who rejected him.

I'm just asking the gender of the victims because people keep fucking it up.
Maybe if we had the usual focus on the victim mentality and cleared that up beforehand it might not be happening.

I'm not denying he's a misogynist.
He also hated males, i'm betting.

[CTALNH]

What, i'm not allowed to fact check? I've heard lots of people say it was all women.
I've heard others say it was mostly men.
Which is it.

Yes...so? The vitriolic hate against women this man showed doesn't lessen that. Just because more the victims were men, doesn't lessen the fact he had a clear and apparent hate for women who rejected him.

Who gives a fuck if he hated women he killed people that the result and that all that matters.

[CTALNH]

Yes...so? The vitriolic hate against women this man showed doesn't lessen that. Just because more the victims were men, doesn't lessen the fact he had a clear and apparent hate for women who rejected him.

I'm just asking the gender of the victims because people keep fucking it up.
Maybe if we had the usual focus on the victim mentality and cleared that up beforehand it might not be happening.

I'm not denying he's a misogynist.
He also hated males, i'm betting.

Apparently atheletes...and pretty much anyone that had a chance with a girl I bet.

[Kelinfort]

Yes...so? The vitriolic hate against women this man showed doesn't lessen that. Just because more the victims were men, doesn't lessen the fact he had a clear and apparent hate for women who rejected him.

Who gives a fuck if he hated women he killed people that the result and that all that matters.

And it was due to that hatred and mental illness he did kill people. Shouldn't we investigate causes as well as how he did it?

[Novorobo]

It can be but is far more often about power over another than any actual sexual gratification.

Yeah becuase a frightened womans screams are totally hot....

sarcasm

It totally is about power.

Funny you should mention that. Porn featuring frightened screams is incredibly popular.

I think claiming to know exactly how much role each motive has on a general level is arrogant anyway.

[Ostroeuropa]

Who gives a fuck if he hated women he killed people that the result and that all that matters.

And it was due to that hatred and mental illness he did kill people. Shouldn't we investigate causes as well as how he did it?

I'm betting the main reason is that he was an unmedicated psychotic who refused to take his therapy sessions seriously.

An entire section of his manifesto is about a "Car hierarchy" where he hates and threatens people who have better cars than him.

Deciding that he went out to act on his hatred of women, rather than his general nutjobbery, is completely unfounded.
Especially given the 5/7ths.

[CTALNH]

Who gives a fuck if he hated women he killed people that the result and that all that matters.

And it was due to that hatred and mental illness he did kill people. Shouldn't we investigate causes as well as how he did it?

Why he is dead?

[CTALNH]

Yeah becuase a frightened womans screams are totally hot....

sarcasm

It totally is about power.

Funny you should mention that. Porn featuring frightened screams is incredibly popular.

I think claiming to know exactly how much role each motive has on a general level is arrogant anyway.

Netorare?

[Keventle]

And it was due to that hatred and mental illness he did kill people. Shouldn't we investigate causes as well as how he did it?

I'm betting the main reason is that he was an unmedicated psychotic who refused to take his therapy sessions seriously.

An entire section of his manifesto is about a "Car hierarchy" where he hates and threatens people who have better cars than him.

Needed to learn form

"Get your shit together."-Human race

[Kelinfort]

And it was due to that hatred and mental illness he did kill people. Shouldn't we investigate causes as well as how he did it?

I'm betting the main reason is that he was an unmedicated psychotic who refused to take his therapy sessions seriously.

An entire section of his manifesto is about a "Car hierarchy" where he hates and threatens people who have better cars than him.

I'm denying he was a sack of hate and vitriol, but we have to investigate his views as well. Therapy alone wouldn't have helped, I'm willing to wager.

[CTALNH]

I'm betting the main reason is that he was an unmedicated psychotic who refused to take his therapy sessions seriously.

An entire section of his manifesto is about a "Car hierarchy" where he hates and threatens people who have better cars than him.

I'm denying he was a sack of hate and vitriol, but we have to investigate his views as well. Therapy alone wouldn't have helped, I'm willing to wager.

And that is why I support capital punishment.

Some people deserve to die.

[Ostroeuropa]

I'm betting the main reason is that he was an unmedicated psychotic who refused to take his therapy sessions seriously.

An entire section of his manifesto is about a "Car hierarchy" where he hates and threatens people who have better cars than him.

I'm denying he was a sack of hate and vitriol, but we have to investigate his views as well. Therapy alone wouldn't have helped, I'm willing to wager.

Yeh, therapy alone wouldn't have helped, because he wasn't taking his medication. I find it someone infuriating that the state did not institutionalize him after his threats given his situation and refusal to medicate.

I'm not denying he was a misogynist.
I'm saying people are jumping the gun and saying that that view motivated the shooting. They don't know that.

[Kelinfort]

I'm denying he was a sack of hate and vitriol, but we have to investigate his views as well. Therapy alone wouldn't have helped, I'm willing to wager.

And that is why I support capital punishment.

Some people deserve to die.

...Did I ever say anything about capital punishment?

[Dystopian Sno-Men]

a mentally Ill radical MRA

Neutral source for this?

[CTALNH]

And that is why I support capital punishment.

Some people deserve to die.

...Did I ever say anything about capital punishment?

No I did.

[Aethrys]

He had quite a lot of self victimization going on there. What annoys me is the way he tries to make himself seem like a poor kid who couldn't get dates because he was born into poverty. Seems to me he was easily upper middle class with a few big name hollywood connections to boot. I can only assume he wasn't trying to find a date, as there are plenty of girls that would happily nod and smile while he talks about his fetish for torturing small animals after being invited to movie premieres.

[Ostroeuropa]

You may as well have written

"They have a nicer car? Shoot a bunch of people. Santa Barbara Drive By."

Yeh. He has a video threatening women because they won't date him. You should note that in that video he threatens to go into a soroity house and shoot it up, not do a drive by.
He has plenty of videos threatening lots of sections of society.

We can't know why he did what he did.
I've already explained why his hatred for women on that basis is irrational and self-centred. Now i'm pointing out why the feminists (And yeh, I know you're going to roll your eyes) are jumping the gun and assuming everything revolves around vaginas.
We can't know that.
Especially given the 5/7ths of victims being male, I simply don't think it's the case. He was probably motivated by a whole range of issues to go out and just start killing random people.
If it makes you feel all butthurt that you aren't allowed to claim he did this because of his hatred of women despite having no real basis for that claim, that's your problem.
I don't see why the feminists should be allowed to claim that women are being victimized by this shooting. (Other than the two who are dead.)